The ultimate pro-life goal is quite direct and very simple. Pro-lifers want an amendment to the u.S. Constitution, to the canadian charter of rights that will give equal protection under the law, to all living humans from the time their biologic life begins at conception until natural death. Understanding that such a goal remains yet in the future, pro-life people have an intermediate goal. It is a constitutional amendment returning the right to make decisions about abortion to each individual state in the u.S. And the equivalent in canada to each individual province. This would take federal judges out of the mix completely, and make legislating on abortion a state’s issue. States and provinces could then allow abortion, forbid it, or anything in between.

Since the above intermediate goals also remain yet unattainable, pro-life forces today are seeking more immediate goals, particularly so in the united states.

These include parental notification and consent for abortion for minor daughters; specific public health regulation of free-standing abortion facilities; women’s right to know, or informed consent laws; forbidding of certain types of abortions (such as brain suction or partial birth abortions); forbidding of abortions for certain reasons, such as sex selection and after a certain age of fetal development.

Certain allied issues can also be legislated such as forbidding destructive live fetal experimentation. Freedom of conscience can be guaranteed, both for individuals and for institutions. Laws to ban the use of tax monies for elective abortions have been the first line of attack for pro-lifers, but much yet can still be done. There are many avenues where federal monies have been given to pro-abortion organizations. A major ex-ample is family planning which includes abortion as a method of family planning. Government support for institutions that have encouraged and referred for abortions could be terminated and such monies redirected to those that support women before, during, and after birth.

There are certain constructive areas that can be encouraged that should be non-controversial. An obvious one is adoption. Certainly, the pro-life side has been warmly supportive of this. Tragically, the pro-abortion side, while giving lip service to adoption, nevertheless, has in practice strongly discouraged adoption to the point of not so subtly condemning it. The typical

planned parenthood type of advice to an unmarried teenager contemplating adoption is to hold it up as a fate worst than death for her unfortunate child. Sadly, adoption should be, but has not been common ground due to todays attitude of

keep it or health question it

There is no pro-abortion position. It is pro-choice.

The main aim is to see the murdering, misogynistic anti-abortionists disbanded.

Here is a very interesting post from the adoption forum:

i gave my son up for adoption when I was 18 years old. It was absolutely the hardest decision I have ever made. Prior to this, I had abortion when I was 16 years old. Although having an abortion was a tough decision as well, the feelings I had after giving up my son were worse. I cried for days because this little boy was inside of me for 9 months! I was in labor for what seemed like forever. However, I knew that I was not ready to raise this precious child. I am now 23 years old and I think about my son constantly. I am in touch with the adoptive family (they are absolutely wonderful), but I know that I will soon have to cut off ties. I mean, when I called their house a couple of months ago, my son answered the telephone. I still cry when I think about it. I can't do that anymore. An abortion takes a few minutes (for the procedure) and you can move on (you won't ever forget it though). However, when you give your child up for adoption, their is a void in your life forever. Take my word for it and think about it before you make your decision.

From the adoption forum:

have you ever seen a news report about a missing child, where they interview the child's parents? Sometimes the parents say something like, "nothing is harder than not knowing. Whatever has happened, I just want to know."
it is very hard knowing that your child, alive when last seen, is somewhere out there in the world, and that you have no control whatsoever over whether your child is safe. Your child may be alive or dead; your child may be happy and thriving, or suffering from cancer, or being tortured in an abusive household. You have no idea. You probably never will. There is never, ever any closure or any peace.
If this was all, it would probably still be preferable to say, "my child is probably alive," than to say, "my child is definitely dead."
the thing is, I do not view abortion as the killing of a child. I do not believe that an embryo is a child. I do not believe that abortion is an "alternative" to adoption. I don't see that as a valid comparison. To me, adoption is an alternative to parenting. Abortion is an alternative to pregnancy. When I terminated my pregnancy, I no longer wondered what happened to the child I never had. I did not lay awake nights wondering if that fetus, that potential life, was suffering. I knew it was not. And so I was at peace with this decision in a way I have never been with adoption. There was certainly no joy in it. An unwanted pregnancy is always regrettable. I wish it hadn't happened. And I don't regret placing my first child. I'm glad I did. And for anyone who believes that a fetus is a child, I would definitely never recommend abortion. Understandably, if that is your belief, there is no choice but to carry the child to term and give birth to it, whether or not you are able to raise it.

Wow, there can't be very many people who are in a position to compare abortion and adoption experiences, but I think that is evidence even samie has to believe, to prove she has been misinformed and that her experiences are not everyone's.

What you have to ask is their state of mind due to the overwhelming propaganda promoted by society and the media. Again these statements reflect the standard today – the I am most important person in the world idea. That is reflected in the notion of keep him or kil him, but don’t give him up. Unfortunately it is not just in the abortion issue but in nearly everything we do – gone are the days of selfless acts. In years gone by when we people were poor we would give our last to help another, today we have so much more and share and love less. We have become entangled in material things as if they could bring us happiness the media have duped us into a consumer market. Money, lifestyle etc has made us selfish and down right awful people. I weep for a nation and the world

You only believe the things you want to -- and that makes anything you say fairly unconvincing! Oh, these women are brainwashed! Oh, they don't know how they feel! Only you know you they really feel, right sami. Teensy bit arrogant, no?

I just dont think women are that evil

Except that you think anyone who disagrees with you is evil

No – I put it down to “confusio humanium” the confusion of humankind

Just because you say they are confused doesn't make them confused -- it's you that is confused isn't it.

She said it, confused.

I would rather have my tax dollars go to a woman who needed an abortion than for it to go to a woman, her child, welfare, their healthcare, supporting them and blah blah blah.
And abortionist is only looked upon badly by prolifers. Prolifers are not the whole population.

"i would rather have my tax dollars go to a woman who needed an abortion than for it to go to a woman, her child, welfare, their healthcare, supporting them and blah blah blah."

this is how it sounds to a pro lifer.


I would rather have my taxes go to women and clinics that health question children so I dont have to pay for welfare healthcare and support for her stupid mistakes and her vulgar little child.

Very pro woman, pro family and pro child.


I would rather my taxes go to investment in decent sex education, prenancy crisis centres - out of town homes for pregnant women. Re education of population so people dont see single mothers as slappers but brave fearless women! Extra financal help for pregnant women and new families. Basicly funding towards everything that makes women feel insecure about pregnancy every aspect to be ratified so women dont feel cornered into having abortions. Then we could all agree to ban abortion.

It is only the fact that abortion is available that now makes it acceptable for women to be single mothers.

I think society dosnt accept single mothers - I believe abortion is societies "answer" to the presure these women feel from society when they know they are going to be single mothers.

My pro choice male and female friends see single mothers as slappers where my pro life friends and I see them as brave individuals ready to stand up to society - each single mother and adopted baby is a failure for the abortion industry and the fpa

Brave to stand up to society? Why -- their mother was probably only 15 when she got pregnant?!

Seriously, though -- the reason girls get pregnant is because they don't know how not to. Why would anyone think a girl is any more of a slapper for having a baby than for having an abortion? You have weird friends! Of course, after she has the baby, the teenager is going to have an awful lot less sex than she did before.

Or they are single mothers like two of my friends who were nearly 40 and realise they arent going to find a husband and decide they want to have a kid.

Well of course I would rather have my money go to sex education. And in a perfect world there would not be unwanted pregnancies.
But, if it is between my tax dollars going to an abortion (to a woman who does not want her child) or me paying to support her and her child, I choose the abortion. That may sound cruel, but that is how I feel.