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HI Girlfriend! Posted: 05-14-08 17:40pm
To answer a question you asked about a
thousand threads back....I too am a Cancer
married to a Scorpio! I will be 51 this
year and he turns 55. I am very proud of
you for sending your poem. In my heart, I
knwo your Mother will be touched, if she
admits it or not. It took a lot of you to
send it...............you are so strong
and have such a great attitude! I love
your TEA..........Nothing better than a
soothing cup of tea and wonderful friends
to share it with! Hope you all have had a
blessed day! Hugs!
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Posted: 05-14-08 18:39pm
All of us Scorpios
with Cancers or Cancers with Scorpios!!!
Amazing and some
what freakie!!! This
is destiny...
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Fairy*Godmother. Posted: 05-14-08 18:46pm
Girlfriend,
Thanks very much for answering my question
and more.
Yeah I had to send the poem to Mami so
that it can be something like a last
call. After your comment, I knew I
should send it to who it was intended.
This is a sad affair but one which I want
to put to rest.
I feel that I have a lot of support from
here doing this.
In half an hour I will be at the AIDs
office doing a course in Global Issues
Training.
I'll play some computer games to pass the
time...on second thoughts, I better clean
the grill.
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Bobbie my dear! Posted: 05-14-08 18:49pm
Where are you?
What is happening?
xox
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Re: Bobbie my dear! Posted: 05-14-08 19:08pm
Muthoni
wrote:
Where are you?
What is happening?
xox
Mson
I was wondering that myself...I need a
dose of my Bobbie!!!
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Re: Fairy*Godmother. Posted: 05-14-08 19:14pm
Muthoni
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Girlfriend,
Thanks very much for answering my question
and more.
Yeah I had to send the poem to Mami so
that it can be something like a last
call. After your comment, I knew I
should send it to who it was intended.
This is a sad affair but one which I want
to put to rest.
I feel that I have a lot of support from
here doing this.
In half an hour I will be at the AIDs
office doing a course in Global Issues
Training.
I'll play some computer games to pass the
time...on second thoughts, I better clean
the grill.
Aways
Mson.
I have said it before
and I say it again...Mson is my Queen
Your strength and
determination are amazing...and your
volunteer work is inspiring to me so
much...I wish I had your wonderful
fortitude and strength. You are the wind
beneath my wings....
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One More Day Of Sitting Around Here Waiting Posted: 05-14-08 19:19pm
for Lee to show up. He called and said he
would be coming early afternoon. It is
now 5:30. So very typical of him and his
immaturity and inability to value
anybody's time but his own.
There is a Chamber of Commerce event going
on this evening. I should get dressed and
go.
He was coming to look at my Viognier
vineyard as some of the tiny berries are
turning brown and I am concerned. Hector
looked yesterday and said maybe I need to
be watering for 6 hours, not 4.
Lee was also going to get his check for
this month. I said I was tired of playing
childish games and would just mail it to
his P.O. Box. He freaked and said, no I
will pick it up. Right there tells me
that he has told new GF he doesn't work
for me anymore. Otherwise all his special
priviledges to her are cut off. She is
welcomed to that lying piece of human
problems. Sorry to be mean. But, in my
heart of hearts, I know after he started
being with her and still with me is when I
came down with the HPV. Then she made him
break up with me. They deserve each
other.
I am going to get dressed up and go to the
Chamber Mixer.
Love to you MDSO's.
Bobbie
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Bobbie....open your eyes and close your heart to him! Posted: 05-15-08 11:32am
Bobbie dearest, glad to hear from
you...sorry you are still dealing with
that child...
In your post you say "Then she made him
break up with me." What???? This is a
grown man we R talking about, not a 8 year
old child..I don't think she can MAKE him
do anything. If he didn't want to then he
would not have. Lee doesn't do what Lee
doesn't want to do no matter what any one
tells him to do!! U know that,
sweetie..How old is he again? Can he
drive? Does he have a phone and a brain?
If he wanted to be with you he would no
matter what she said...I am not being mean
but,Bobbie, come on....you have got to
quit blaming his GF for what he
does...that is what he wants you to do,
cant you C that? If you R pissed at her
then he skates by like he always
does....its HIS choice and HIS decision on
whether he sees you or not or picks up the
phone when you call or not, it is not his
GFs ...its HIS! Geezz, I cant stand that
boy... game player and
mind manipulator!!!! .. Bobbie, what is it
going to take?????
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Re: Amen, and Amen to that Prayer To Your Mama, Mson Posted: 05-15-08 16:26pm
Roberta777
wrote:
Who can say what made your
mother into the person that she became? I
know in her heart she loves you. Never
doubt that. But, sometimes it is not a
day in the park. Your being abused as a
little child still gives me pause. It
hurts me Mson, let alone you. You are the
one who lived through it. I am glad that
you are working on seperating yourself now
from that pain. Let your Mom come to
realize the pain inflected upon you, just
a little child. Sorry. I don't want to
lay blame, but abuse of a child to me is
almost unforgiveable. They have to repent
for that kind of suffering and pain.
Sorry. I know it is not my place here to
make judgements, but you are my friend and
you were innocent and just a child. We
know what was going on with them Mson. We
don't have to speak the words. But, we
both know. We know.
I love you Mson. You have made me be
strong. Stronger and stronger every
single day. I finally hired the new
vineyard manager starting in June. And,
my former vineyard manager will be coming
back as a consultant to help me and put in
a system of watering without me having to
do it every day. I have already fallen
three times out there on those hills. I
am getting old. I can't do this forever.
I thank God for you every single day and
always pray for you every time I awake
Mson and you too dearest Homer. You have
a woman's heart. A heart that can listen,
understand and empathasize. And the heart
of a man who can love and love
unconditionally. I love you Homer.
Your friend in Christ,
Bobbie
The one person you have shown us is your
heart and soul, Mson. It is kind and good
and full of love.
I wish I could just reach around you and
show you how much you are truly loved. I
think about the great angels. Gabriel, of
the North, Michael of the East, Raphael of
the South and Uriel of the West. I
believe in angels and in particular the
great angels of the Lord. These angels
are recognized in all
faiths.
Bobbie,
Your blood is Cherokee. Is that native
American? Sounds strong.
I really appreciate your being sorry for
what happened to me when I was little.
Thanks so much. You feel for me and I
feel it inside. Nobody said sorry to me
about that before like you have. I hope
my Ndandi doesn't chicken out but actually
give my Mami the poem.
You said it hurts you too. That just
liberared me for a problem shared is a
problem solved or something like that.
Bobbie, you are good for me.
I love you and as I read your post again,
I will have more to say. It is just that
I am at work and my shift is almost over.
Your writing is so powerful that I can
only take it in bits.
I Guess You Are Just Going Posted: 05-15-08 16:37pm
To come out here and kick my tail from
Texas and back maybe twice and hit my head
a few times to clear out all this stuff
Homer.
I went last night but was in such a bad
mood, I didn't stay long. Came home and
as I was driving back passed Lee. He came
back. Said he was here on the ranch for
30 minutes walking around the vineyards.
Everything looks fine.
I wrote to Beline last night. I am
beginning to think that maybe it is not so
much Lee as it is me letting go of having
somebody in my life, just waking up alone
is hard but I always did that. Just wish
I had never been with him as this now
presents some real problems for me.
You are young and beautiful and have
Ricky to love you. 14 years is a very
long term committed relationship. I was
only with him for a year. It had it good
times and a lot more percentage of bad
times, I can tell you.
He came in last night and this time sat on
the raised fireplace hearth. No more
Walter's leather chair like he is king.
Those days are long gone. I paid him for
this month.
But, all the things to make this work out
for me including my former vineyard
manager who is going to come out and
install battery operated timers on the
nine new watering stations which will help
me so very much as I have already fallen
out on that north facing slope and going
down into the Viognier scares me each and
every time I have to climb down and back
up that hill. This isn't working for me
with the way Lee put it in. I already
told him my former manager is going to put
those timers on. I could tell by looking
at his face he knows he is going to be out
of here.
The new vineyard manager has his
legitimate license, is a labor contractor,
will verify that the worker's have valid
Social Security numbers. Otherwise, if I
get checked on, I could be fined
$10,000.00. Homer, that is a deal
breaker, right there. I don't have it to
blow away.
I told Beline that I think maybe a lot to
do with this of letting Lee go (which is a
joke as he threw me away three months
after I signed that contract but would
still come over here if he had nothing
better to do with his time). I believe it
is the remembering of the intimacy and
like you said, when it is good, it is
really good. But, the bad times are so
very, very bad it negates all the good
times.
I woke up this morning and prayed for you,
Mson, Beline, FairyGodmother, Lee and all
my family.
Getting the house cleaned up as I will be
having a wonderful friend from our glory
days in Silicon Valley to visit and stay
in the B&B. He is going to paint a
watercolor of the vineyards for a second
label.
Then got a call from a nice man from
church. So things can't be all that bad,
can they?
I am going to have to simply write a
letter of termination to Lee that he can
no longer work here. I can't do it to his
face. The way he pleads and plays on my
heart just makes me keep putting it off.
And, he has done a good job and a job much
better now that he knows he is about to
lose this prized vineyard. I could do a
lot better by never seeing him again. I
know that.
I need you to stick a rod up my spine.
And, protect me with the light of Christ
that this guy or whatever that comes in to
torment me about remembering him goes
away. Going to call my Priest and have
him pray for me to get rid of this burden
on my soul and heart.
Love you MDSO.
Bobbie
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Dear Heavenly
Father, I pray to you to give sweet Bobbie
the strength that she needs to relinquish
her power to you and to be able to rid
herself of this man who has become a
burden and a drain on her spirit and her
finances. Let her find the strength that
is with in her threw you to do what she
needs to do to rectify the situation that
she has found herself in..Give her
knowledge and strength to be strong and
forthright in her attempt to remove the
lust and power that she sometimes gives to
that man. He is undeserving of her
kindness and taking advantage of her
loneliness since loosing her dear Walter.
Make her strong, Lord. Give her courage to
do what she knows she must,Lord. I ask
these things in your most Holly name.AMEN
Some people are born upon this earth to go
through really heavy trials and
tribulations and yet they still come out
of those terrible times and are still able
to love. That is you Mson.
If you had not gone through each and every
step on the path of your life, you would
not be where you are today, helping
thousands of people who have come to their
own path in life and realize they need to
hear the stories of other's who have
walked the path they are on now.
You are brave and loved. Always know
that. God saved you for a very important
reason in His kingdom here on earth.
You know how things are in families.
There sometimes will be the protector
thinking not to share a message is doing
the right thing. If your message doesn't
get delivered, it has already been
delivered into your mother's heart. It
will get delivered to her, I promise you
that. God will make sure. If not here
and now, He will show her in a dream but
upon second thought, I believe she has
already received the message. Which is
good. Better here and now than later.
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Homerx and Bobbie. Posted: 05-15-08 20:20pm
Thanks very much for all your kindness
regarding my mother. I cried Homerx
when you said to God that you can do
without and prayed for me. That is
amazing. I have never had this kind of
support before. I am very touched and
even if I feel wounded mbae the whole
saga, I am walking taller and I know more
than ever before that I am not alone.
Bobbie, I was turning into an abuser
myself . Always yelling
at Jessy and my older brother talked to me
about it. The next time I yelled, Jessy
asked me why I was yelling and I could not
believe she had spoken out. I hit her
once and the look of disbelieve on her
face told me never to do it again. She
broke the cycle of abuse and now it is my
turn to do the same. To carry on from
where she left.
It hurts me that she died and so I want
her death to be worthwhile. Not just her
death but her short life.
She taught me a lot. That girl always had
a compliment for me on her lips. She
adored me and she truly loved me. She was
very forgiving and I miss her. The
intensity of the pain gets less and less.
I know that my other brother's wife beats
her children and even my sister married to
a pastor beats hers as well. It hurts me.
My job is to bring this to a stop. I
asked my sister what she benefits from
beating someone that cannot defend
themselves. She has never talked about
that again. If I cannot reach my
siblings, hopefully I can reach their
children and if not, may I help strangers.
Charity does begin at home though.
My thinking is that I will be the one to
bring the healing to my mother however
long it takes but as you said Homerx,
sometimes the chance is not there.
In my mind I know that God has some work
for me to do in this earth. It is to do
with telling most importantly Jessy's
story. She exhibited signs of self worth
at a very early age. That is why I blame
myself for being silent about the sexual
abuse mbae my uncle before age 8 years
old. I just persevered and never told
anybody. When I got raped a second time
before I was a teen, I never said a word.
I just took it. The fear and what was
going on would overcome me. Then third
time and then fourth time...God forbid
there be a fifth. Lord have mercy. Mbae
the way, I have successfully fought of two
rapists in my life. I hope I don't have
to do it again. I feel safer in Canada.
Thanks be to God.
I thank God for the two of you. For the
strength that you have given me. For
loving me just the way I am and for
sharing your lives with me. Knowing you
has made life easier. It has been a
wonderful three months.
Homerx you pray so well it amazes me. Keep it up. You
are angel. I always pray for
your mind Homerx.
Bobbie, I have enormous for you. Oh, I was
about to ask you what MDSO means but you
are already ahead of me.
Rape is never about anything but abuse and
the supposed power it gives to a person.
What kind of power does it give to a
person raping a small child? They have to
be pretty messed up inside to do that to
an innocent small child. God help them.
Because I live in a world where children
are supposed to be protected, not let the
wolves get to them.
Homer is right. You have honestly laid
out your heart to your mother and I hope
and pray that she can hear and get beyond
her own terrible guilt of not stopping
that when it happened. One thing that
came to me today was and please forgive me
maybe she was doing drugs at the time and
not totally there mentally. That alone
may be bringing up the trip that she
doesn't even know what you are talking
about. But, her heart knows what you are
talking about Mson. A mother is a mother
and forever.
Jessy showed to you she loved you. You
were going through a terrible time being
diagnosed with HIV/AIDS. How does a
person respond to that kind of news? Not
well and with fear especially then.
Nowadays, people have a full life
expectancy with proper medication. But,
for then, you must have been clearly
freaked out. I know I would have been.
Have been freaked out enough over this
HPV. Sure it is a virus, but we now are
going to live with it for the rest of our
days.
I love and treasure you and I wonder if
you honestly realize how many lives you
have touched with your love, honesty and
just being a good and loving Christian?
More than you will ever know.
With love,
Bobbie
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Posted: 05-16-08 09:57am
My mother was a pill popper and drank a
lot as well. My father always got
drunk....both of my parents used to beat
each other...it was crazy. I remember when
I was about 6 or 7 hearing them fighting.
I got out of bed and went to the kitchen
where they were. They were drunk. My
father had my mother by the hair and was
throwing her around by the hair while she
was taking swings at him with a pan. My
mother saw me in the door.I said please
stop hurting each other. She yelled at me
to go back to bed. She did not care that I
was traumatized. My little brother was in
the bed and I told him to pull the covers
over his head and I shut the door and lay
there and listened to them beat each
other. they never apologized or came to
check on us or anything. They just fought
and then went to bed and had sex while
there 3 little children lay heartbroken
and silent in there beds...I dont know why
I am telling this...it makes me sad. I try
to forgive my parents. it is so hard to
do. My father has admitted his mistakes
and I have forgiven him. My
mother..mother...I hate that word
sometimes. She has never owned up or
apologized for anything in her entire
life. And she sleeps like a baby. Not a
care in the world. It is so hard not to
hate her. Pray for me because i can not
pray about her any more. My heart is
scared . I try not to hate her,that is the
best i can do.
When i was a child my parents would leave
each other for other people. My mother
once was gone when i got home from school
and my father said" Your mother left us
for another man." That was it...She came
and went as he also came and went. No
regard for the children. It was about
them, there sex life, there party...they
had us kids because we were the result of
unprotected sex...Lord help me get rid of
the bitterness in my heart. I don't want
to hate. I want to love.
You too have suffered, and suffered
greatly by parents abusing you and your
little brother and I am guessing here, a
little sister.
Parents who are so out of control on drugs
don't have a clue the emotional, physical
and spiritual damage they do to their own
children.
You are right Homer, some people can sleep
like a baby and never own up to the misery
they cause others, especially their own
children. You and Mson have both been
through hell and back with your own
parents. That just puts an arrow through
my heart to look and see what happened to
you both.
You are loved Homer. I wake up each
morning and immediately pray for you,
Mson, Beline, Lee (our eHealth Lee) and
even Lee, my children, my grand-children
and great-grandchildren.
I am cleaning my house and had to put up
new candles. In Walter's room on my desk
is a beautiful lamp which had to candles
in it. When we went to Sacramento last
August for the wine award's ceremony to
pour our wines, I got back the next day
and it was 105 degrees in the house. All
the candles had literally melted,
including those on the lamp. So, as I was
cutting off two candles and ready to put
them into the lamp, I thought of Jessie
and Mson. I thought how beautiful when
Mson lights a candle. I then lit the two
candles for Jessie and Mson. May they
always be surrounded with light and love.
The same with you and Ricky and your
little brother.
To love another person really does open
your heart up to what follows. It can be
love returned or it can be love hurtfully
rejected because that person doesn't have
a heart that is open to love or to receive
love. I prayed today to surround myself
with the light of Christ and to stop this
memory of love for Lee. I have to stop
this. I can't stand the arrows that go
through my heart.
I love you Homer.
Bobbie
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:45am
thank you, Bobbie..I love you too...i am
having one of those
days...crying...sad...depressed...I will
get over it. Sorry...
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Homerx. Posted: 05-16-08 12:01pm
Very
sad the story you just told. It is like
you children brought up yourselves. You
have parents but you are the grown up as
children. I can relate with my mother. I
am very sorry to hear what you had your
siblings had to go through.
I think during my time my parents were
drinking...36 years ago and it still
affects me. Until Bobbie suggested that
my mother might have been a drug addict, I
didn't think about the drinking.
My Ndandi has always been an upright man.
I love him and I am comfortable around
him. Good man. A Scorpio. My mother is
a Libra. I have tried to search the stars
for answers.
Homerx, I admire your Dad who apologized!
That's a gentleman. I admire him. May he
live long.
I'll be praying for Mabel. Is that the
right name? That your mother has left for
another man!
You are wondering why you are telling
these? It is to help the masses. Can you
imagine how many people long to have a
loving relationship with their mothers?
Those people are reading your very well
written post and darling, they are being
touched. You are not playing small mbae
not telling your story and you are not
shrinking so that others won't feel
insecure around you. You are being
liberated from your own fear and your
presence here is liberating us.
You are not even asking for prayers about
yourself. You are asking for prayers for
her. Interesting. I'll be praying and
please give me the correct name if I am
wrong. I am ready to pray.
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