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premlata

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Indian Diabetic Posted: 02-13-08 09:42am


Friends, there are lots of discussions about Diabetes and its control. But you know what theres little being done about in the Diabetes capital of world- INDIA. Most of the Indians are taking it so lightly - till they've had there first heart attack offcourse- well after that theres little they can do....And the doctors also give out prescriptions and diet advice right from western web sites. Well if I dont't eat cheese or fromage any way- what's the point in printing and handing beautiful brochures telling me how much of that I can have- I want to know if and how many Aaloo ka paranth's I can have- can someone tell me?? By the way I am exercising trying to loose weight and strictly take not more than 2 small rotis a day, 1/2 cup dal and 1 cup of boiled rice once a day, plenty of Louki, tori, ghia, kaddoo, karela, gobhi etc. as my doctor has said.

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re. indian diabetic Posted: 05-08-08 19:50pm


premlata As you know Aloo parathas are hard to give up. My mom is diabetic has been diagnosed with high bp and it was a huge wake up call for our whole house. I started to make food a lot ldifferently. I use spray butter (like pam) instead of butter or oil. and the potatoes are made really healthy.It tastes great. In the dough we use just hot water and chapati flour. it has helped out a lot..when you cook your vegetables use less oil. We now use grape oil in our home and it is extremly healthy. she is eating the same portions as you are with rotis and vegetables. Plus she is exercising 5-7 miles every day. It has made a huge difference. Also we are using xyletol in place of sugar. you should read about it. We don't want to use splenda or anything chemically grown so it's all organic. Hope this information helps

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Thanks Posted: 05-10-08 11:54am


Thanks I hope your mothers keeping good control over her ABC's, Pls do pass on any new sugestions / ideas you have Premlata

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Posted: 05-12-08 12:28pm


Have you ever heard of or tried gymnema? I was trying to find out more about it for my mom. She did try taking the pill once because its all natural and her insulin makes her heart race so she has a lot of trouble. She was just recently diagnosed with high bp , which is another reason for the whole food change and routine exercise. I heard it is sold a lot in pakistan and india. would you have any info on this. My mom tried taking it one day and her sugar levels were amazing 109, 117, 124. usually it will run into 2 hundreds and its so hard to bring it down. she wants to continue taking it because it makes her feel great but she is first trying to get off of her bp pills becaus it seems to interact with it. my family has done a lot of research on medications and found how bad some of them really are for you. especially if you are in a situation where you can do a lot of natural things to help yourself first. with her exercise and food control her bp is great and its helping the diabetes a lot. So just a suggestion to try looking into taking gymnema its a plant that grows in the tropical forests of central and southern India. If you do know anything about it any info would help.....thanks

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Gurmar- Gymnema Sylvestre Posted: 05-13-08 09:29am


I 've definitely heard of gymnema Sylvetre {popularly known as Gurmar ( one that kills sugars)}. here are some links which you may find helpful as well http://en.wikiped ia.org/wiki/Gymnema_sylvestre http://www.progenebio.i n/DMP/Gymnema.htm I myself believe in natural things/ natural food and all, but after getting to know so much about diabetes, my humble request would be do not take yr mom of any medications. If you like you can give her Gymnema, Bitter gourd juice, Lots of green vegetables, fibre rich diet. But do keep monitoring her Blood glucose and BP. Herbal supplements ( most of them) do not make substantial changes in Blood glucose levels - they are effective specially at initial stages and for controlling cholesterol levels. But diabetes has to be rigorously managed, theres no other way out. Diabetes can have far reaching consequences, worst of all they do not give any symptoms, I'd recommend you take a look at this site http://diabetestotalcontrol.com / Most probably yr mom's high BP is a part and parcel of her DM, hence she would definitely require treatment for this. If you send me more details ( Blood reports, BP, BMI age etc) of yr mom I could be more specific in my suggestions Gurmar or Gymnema is a good products effective both in decreasing sugar and cholesterol- it can be taken as a supplement, But the best and most effective herb for Diabetics perhaps is freshly made bitter gourd juice. If you require anything from India let me know I'll try to help. Take care/ Premlata

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natural approach Posted: 05-16-08 12:52pm


My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 over a year ago. She began following a natural program outlined in a book, "The pH Miracle for diabetes". She is not on any medication and her blood sugar is normal. She takes several natural supplements.

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Natural Approach Posted: 05-17-08 09:49am


There must be some misunderstanding, It is hard to believe that T1DM can be controlled by any medicines. May be the diagnosis was inappropriate. Anyway pls do share her figures, age, A1c, BSFasting levels and what herbs are you giving her PremLata

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natural approach Posted: 05-17-08 20:05pm


A1c was 4.5. My daughter is 8. The diagnosis was correct, the endroc. did blood work. I have not had any reason to check her fasting it was normal for so long. The endroc. suggested to watch her blood sugar later in the day. I check her sugar when she eats different foods. The last time she ate bean soup, two hours after, her reading was 83. She drinks proper pH water and eats alkaline foods. I still give her supplements, but not as many as I did the first 6 months. She takes, chromium/vanidum, greens, soy sprouts, NADP, vit. c, multi-vit and cinnamon. I have recently found out that cool cayenne is very helpful. I do plan to put her on that. Proper oils and proper salt is essential. The book, by Robert O. Young, "The pH Miracle for Diabetes", outlines many good supplements, but felt some were unnecssary due to her normal readings. Here are others that I learned about: Gymnema Sylvestre, Fenugreek, Bitter Melon, clay, bovine pancreas, aloe vera. licorice root, cedar berries, and more. Vitamin's and mineral's are also important. I have spent tons of hours over the past year reading, Robert Young's books, and free articles trying to understand, "The New Biology". I do believe that he is onto something if people are willing. I also believe he is the #1 nutritional microbiologist on the planet. I was willing to try for my daughter. As a mom, I want the best for my daughter, healthy life, happy life, long life. I understand there are YouTubes with Robert Young.

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Natural Approach Posted: 05-19-08 03:05am


I'm very Happy for you and your daughter. But theres one thing I'd like to point out. Off all that you've mentioned- there are no readings of FBG, C-Peptide , raised a1c levels, in absence of these its difficult to put an affirmative diag for t1dm. Glucose by itself ( passively without the help of insulin) is also absorbed( taken up by body tissues) so it is quite possible that with proper diet BG levels may not go up. But some other factors may get affected - growth in general; increased chances of Ketoacidodsis- one thing you have to be very careful about when she has infections, or dehydration.

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natural approach Posted: 05-20-08 18:32pm


I will pull from the memory bank what I can remember. Her fasting was 140 at the peditrician and the night before I took her in it was around 225 - 275. He sent her to a Endroc. and her A1c was 6.3 and GTT was 325. The other lab work I recall was a C-peptide, anti-bodies, thyroid, and cholesterol levels. When we went back to get the results the Endoc. told us based on the lab work his diagnosis was type 1. My extended family is full of diabetes. I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes and have been diagnosed with type 2. Based on what I have learned, we want to heal our bodies naturally by proper hydration and proper nutrition. When we do our body will change the blood, cells, organs, tissues, muscles, and even bones by balancing our bodies through proper ph. As you may know (or not), we live acidic lifestyles. We drink acidic water, eat acidic foods, stress out, and are exposed to enviromental acidity (computers, cell phones, etc). I did not have a clue that the water we were drinking was acidic right out of the tap. When I tested bottled water I was buying in the stores it was also acidic. I was learning we need to clean up the internal terrain and drink alkaline water. If we continue to only put healthy foods and water in our bodies, then the blood will be healthier. Makes sense to me. We continue on the same path and it makes sense that since the blood runs through every part of our body, it will begin to clean up areas of weakness or damage. The blood will take anything it needs from anywhere in the body to maintain the proper alkalinity of the blood which is 7.365. If we are filling our bodies full of acidity it makes sense the body can have problems. We know that in one sense type 1 and type 2 are completely different, but in another sense they are not, based on my understanding of "The New Biology", We need to properly balance the body. Robert Young explains, we are alkaline by design and it is through poor hydration, nutrition, and enviromental stresses to our body we become acidic. Today, I looked back at free emails from Robert Young and I found one in particular on type 1 and type 2 diabetes. I will quote part of it. Stated by Robert Young, "Current medical savants perceive that Type 1 diabetes is the result of an autoimmune response or virus leading to an attack on the insulin-producing beta cell in the Islets of Langerhans -- True or False? The answer is false. There is no attack on the insulin-producing beta cells and there is no virus! When we increase the acidic sugars in our diet we increase the need for insulin and at the same time increase stress on the insulin-producing beta cells. This increased stress causes the beta cells to breakdown or age prematurely. When any cell is broken or begins to disorganize it is the white blood cells that clear out the cellular debris. This so-called autoimmune response is nothing more than the white blood cells clearing out the garbage or broken-down beta cells from overstressed acidic lifestyle and diets! Current medical science believes that insulin is needed to regulate blood sugar levels in the body -- True or False? The answer is false. In the 1950's, scientists incorrectly coined the term "insulin dependant" to mean that muscle and fat required insulin to take up glucose. However, glucose is transported into the cells with or without insulin. There are enough glucose transporters in all cell membranes to guarantee adequate glucose uptake to have a cell's respiration requirementss work, even without insulin! I has been shown that adipocytes can uptake glucose without insulin through stimulation of glucose transporters." This flies in the face of medicine. Hippocrates said..."Let your food be your medicine and your medicine be your food". Thomas Edison said..."The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will involve the patient in the proper use of food, fresh air, and exercise." That is also what Robert Young says. You will find hundreds of free articles at health.blogspot.com. I want to tell the world. This is totally against what we are told by medical people. I did not know anything about an alkaline way of living, vegeterians, natural remedies, etc. I am grateful to this man for all he has put into research and doing live blood analysis. He does sell books, but he has a large amount of free information. Ketones and Ketoacidodsis are different. I watch that. She has grown 2" over the last year and gained weight.