manuftw82
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Posted: 02-24-08 12:28pm
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Well I don't go by that. Pro-Life is more
than abortion. It's also about getting
rid of the death penalty and also getting
rid of euthanasia.
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yodavater
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Posted: 02-24-08 15:42pm
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| manuftw82
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Speak for yourself and not all Pro-life
people. |
I do speak only for myself, and I also
quote dictionaries in doing so. Do you
accept dictionary definitions, or are you
one of the "my opinion is better than any
dictionary" poster?
pro-life adjective opposed to the
belief that a pregnant woman should have
the freedom to choose an abortion if she
does not want to have a baby
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.
asp?key=63328&dict=CALD
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If abortion is illegal people will still
get them but now women will die as well as
their babies. That's not pro-life that's
inhumane. |
No, that's prolife, according to the
dictionary. As to why I support it, it is
because I oppose all abortions, legal and
illegal. I do believe that many fewer
elective abortions will occur after they
become illegal again, and I also believe
that prolifers will not be doing any
illegal abortions, only prochoicers do
them.
We do not traditionally formulate our laws
to protect the physical safety of those
who commit violent aggression against
innocent victims, do we?
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yodavater
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Reptar
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Posted: 02-24-08 21:03pm
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| yodavater
wrote: | As to why I support it, it
is because I oppose all abortions, legal
and illegal. I do believe that many fewer
elective abortions will occur after they
become illegal again, and I also believe
that prolifers will not be doing any
illegal abortions, only prochoicers do
them.
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Thank god that's not going to happen
anytime soon, and by that I mean never.
Oh, and ever think there was obviously a
reason it became legal in the first place?
I can just imagine it now though, a world
without legalized abortion. Soon we'll
start putting down children in orphanages
just like we do at the pound. That's only
of course if women decide not to get them,
but I don't think that would stop that
many of them.
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sistersister
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Posted: 02-24-08 21:31pm
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It is always amazing to me how "prolifers"
become "prochoicers" when it is them and
their special circumstances then return to
being "prolifers" when they leave the
clinic.
I would suppose that will hold true in the
very unlikely event all abortions are made
illegal.
"...capitol punishment has nothing to do
with being prolife" So the only thing
that is relevent to "prolife" is being
aginst abortion? Then why do you get all
in a tizzy when you are called
antiabortionists? Pro life would appear
to include all life or aleast all human
life would that not in clude criminals
and civilians in a war zone? Perhaps you
could form a subset and call yourselves
pro zygote/embryonic/fetal human lifeers.
And you wonder why you are seen as
hypocrits?
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meblonde01
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Posted: 02-25-08 07:51am
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| sistersister
wrote: | It is always amazing to me
how "prolifers" become "prochoicers" when
it is them and their special circumstances
then return to being "prolifers" when they
leave the clinic.
I would suppose that will hold true in the
very unlikely event all abortions are made
illegal.
"...capitol punishment has nothing to do
with being prolife" So the only thing
that is relevent to "prolife" is being
aginst abortion? Then why do you get all
in a tizzy when you are called
antiabortionists? Pro life would appear
to include all life or aleast all human
life would that not in clude criminals
and civilians in a war zone? Perhaps you
could form a subset and call yourselves
pro zygote/embryonic/fetal human lifeers.
And you wonder why you are seen as
hypocrits? |
Not all.. 
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sistersister
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Posted: 02-25-08 09:41am
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Believe it or not Blonde I know that.
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Birch
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Posted: 02-25-08 10:48am
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| yodavater
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... Do you accept dictionary definitions,
or are you one of the "my opinion is
better than any dictionary" poster?
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As if that is a bad thing! 
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Posted: 02-25-08 17:03pm
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| sistersister
wrote: | | Believe it or not Blonde I
know that. |
lol!!!!! What is wrong with some
people??? Why does every comment
automatically refer to "every single
person", or "every last one of you",
unless it is written otherwise?
The word "you" in a general term. It
doesn't mean ALL unless the writer
specifically says ALL.
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amino65
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Posted: 02-25-08 20:31pm
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SisterSister,
I wanted to ask you a question about
something you said a few posts up, just
out of curiosity (to clarify, I am
pro-choice, and rarely post on here unless
I see something so outrageous I just can't
help myself  )
You said that "It is always amazing to me
how "prolifers" become "prochoicers" when
it is them and their special circumstances
then return to being "prolifers" when they
leave the clinic. "
My question was, how often does this
happen at the clinic you work at?
Where I live there isn't much abortion
controversy except for the occasional
bumber sticker (always displayed by the
prolife side. I did see a prochoice one
once!). I can only imagine that at least
one of those people protesting at your
clinic has either walked in themselves or
known someone close to them who has!
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sistersister
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Posted: 02-25-08 21:32pm
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Yes we and all clinics get more than a few
every month. since we have a four day
procedure we really get a chance to get to
know our patients and their families.
We have evn had patients that protested at
the clinic in their hometown, still think
it is morally wrong for everyone else and
if it was not for their special
circumstances they would be out at our
gate with the protestors.
The thing in that no one knows what might
happen and these folks hopefully will
leave with a better understanding about
abortion not being about bumper stickers
and slogans but about real situations and
choices that sometimes have to be made.
I never have been one to put bumper
stickers on my car (hey I want to know who
they are not make it easy to spot me) But
I did see one the other day that I thought
was great IF YOU CAN'T TRUST ME WITH A
CHOICE HOW CAN YOU TRUST ME WITH A CHILD?
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Posted: 02-25-08 22:57pm
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I'm prolife and I never had any abortions
and never I put myself in a situation
where I could be pregnant. I waited to
have a sex life at the correct time. I'm
so proud of myself. I did everything
right. 
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amino65
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Posted: 02-25-08 23:30pm
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SisterSister,
yeah I figured you would get a few of
those. I always wonder what goes on in
their heads that makes them think that
their "circumstance" is ok, but not anyone
elses?
I remember once reading about a girl who
was brought in by her mother who was one
of the "regulars" who protested outside of
a clinic. When the woman was asked if this
changed her views on abortion, she
replied, "I wouldn't expect YOU to
understand her situation."
But wouldn't someone working in a clinic
understand, if not sympathize? I mean,
they (the workers) don't discriminate who
they provide their services to, but when
hypocritical patients come in and still
radiate ingratitude and disgust, I just
don't understand.
I never put bumper stickers on my car
either, and I just can't help but shake my
head at the ones who are so superficial
that they think "oh hey look at me, I'm so
hardcore I want everyone driving behind me
to know what my beliefs are".
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amino65
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Posted: 02-25-08 23:49pm
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ah thanks futureshock, this must have been
where I read it. ::sigh:: it's a
frustrating read, and I'll never
understand them ( their choice I could
understand, their mentality, never).
It feels odd to post so much in a day, lol
O_o .
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yodavater
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Posted: 02-27-08 17:15pm
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| Reptar
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Soon we'll start putting down children in
orphanages just like we do at the pound.
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One of your "colleagues", a Professor
Peter Singer (Princeton), has already
proposed that abortion be extended to
include one month old newborn babies. He
is a champion of abortions rights.
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yodavater
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Posted: 02-27-08 17:19pm
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| sistersister
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So the only thing that is relevent to
"prolife" is being aginst abortion? Then
why do you get all in a tizzy when you are
called antiabortionists?
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Yes, and I don't object at all to being
called an antiabortionist... or even
"antichoice", for that matter.
| sistersister
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Pro life would appear to include all life
or aleast all human life would that not
include criminals and civilians in a war
zone? |
No, it does not. The term refers ONLY to
abortion. Would you care to see some
valid, linked dictionary definitions?
| sistersister
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And you wonder why you are seen as
hypocrits? |
No, I don't. In fact, that's one of the
milder personal attacks we experience.
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yodavater
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Posted: 02-27-08 17:21pm
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| Birch
wrote: | | yodavater
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... Do you accept dictionary definitions,
or are you one of the "my opinion is
better than any dictionary" poster?
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As if that is a bad thing!
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Yeah, I do see that as a "bad thing". I
see that as extreme arrogance, and/or a
total lack of respect for academic
integrity.
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yodavater
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Posted: 02-27-08 17:22pm
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Stories like that prove the existence of
PLINOs. (Pro-Lifers In Name Only).
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manuftw82
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Posted: 02-27-08 18:19pm
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| yodavater
wrote: | | Birch
wrote: | | yodavater
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... Do you accept dictionary definitions,
or are you one of the "my opinion is
better than any dictionary" poster?
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As if that is a bad thing!
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Yeah, I do see that as a "bad thing". I
see that as extreme arrogance, and/or a
total lack of respect for academic
integrity. |
http://dictionary.ref
erence.com/browse/pro
http://dictionary.re
ference.com/browse/life
yep see I do follow the dictionary.
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