Seems like playing in the sewer to me.
Medically unsafe, hygienically very
unpleasant, morally...if it is two men,
well, that's your call.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-06-08 12:09pm
I think a LOT of people think that the
only thing 2 men can do together is anal
sex...that SO is not the case...there are
tones of things gay men can do with each
other besides anal sex....and you say
morally??? I am not touching that...judge
NOT...
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Heylookitsphill
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Posted: 02-06-08 12:14pm
NO DOUBT, i agree. STD's are dangerous,
gay or straight. And I agree that there is
No safer sex, than none at all.
Actualyl homer since you say that i have a
question.
Other than anal sex, and say like a
blowjob or whatever, what else is there?
Im being straight honest and being
serious, im trying to stay learned and
know my facts and be open.
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mr tibbs
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Posted: 02-06-08 12:16pm
Why? So you think it morally acceptable
for a man to stick his penis into another
man's rectum.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-06-08 12:25pm
Heylookitsphill,Ok, I can appreciate
that...since you asked, I will try but its
like explaining how to eat or breath...but
let me try...there are toys of course,
there is mutual masturbation, there is
hugging and kissing and rubbing and heavy
petting, putting the penis between your
partners legs...all that. Its like trying
to explain what two people do
together...straight or gay or
whatever...we all have our ways of getting
off and making love. If 2 people love each
other then there are endless
possibilities. Of course I have been in a
monogamous relationship for 14 years so I
may not be hip to all the latest gadgets
and what not that are out there...all I
know is it works for me. I am not going to
argue with mr.tibbs...
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Heylookitsphill
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Posted: 02-06-08 12:33pm
I dont know if Morals arent involved in
being GAY. I feel like its at a different
level then Morals, i dunno.
But of course im as you would say "
religious", i believe it was not how God
Intended, but I was only answering his
Medical Concerns. I dont wanna force him
to try and change. Thats not what im here
for.
In a non-biblical standpoint, i still dont
get it, myself, because Another guys penis
really repulses me personally. But thats
just me.
Plus im a firm believer, that people arent
BORN gay.
I know that According to famous child
psychologist, Piaget, that at birth babies
only have a sensori-motor perception. At
the point of infancy the only things that
babies know is, suck ( mothers breast for
milk) and cry.
I really doubt that somewhere there is a
baby going ( You know, breast milk is fine
and all, but i could use really nice penis
right about now)
And also i believe in the theory of "
Everyone was at one point Bi-curious"
Everyone goes through Completely different
situations than another person, and by the
way things play out, there always comes a
sexual thought of... "what would it be
like IF." Sure it sounds pretty
Freudian, still nonetheless true. IMO,
along with many many others, is that
something came up, in which you thought
someone in the same sex, in a sexual
matter. Some may not remember, because it
was very brief, and you shrugged it off
very quickly. Maybe something tipped you
off to realize well, i dont like that, so
im straight. And some others, something
happened, and they played out the
homosexual thoughts, and found something
about it pleasurable. Whatever it was.
Since human beings are very hedonistic, (
constantly seeking pleasure), we keep
looking for things that give us pleasure.
So i think that, when you realized, that
experienced was pleasurable for you, you
kept going for it. Then as you grew up,
and you all of a sudden learned " ooooh,
so thats called being homosexual ( gay.)
That must mean im gay, and then you stuck
with it.
Again Thats just MY personal belief
system. Im not gonna say im absolutely
right, my theory is pretty naive im sure,
but i believe there is alot of elements of
truth to it.
And if you dont agree, say it, let me
know. But be honest, sincere and not a
jerk about it. Let me know what you
think, im curious. Ive actually told all
this to a guy, that ive worked with that
is GAY, and he agrees that it makes sense.
It may have been because he has been
flirting with me as long as ive known him
but lol.
I
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homerx
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Posted: 02-06-08 12:51pm
I was born gay. No one will ever convince
me otherwise. I have never ever been
attracted to or had sex with a woman. They
are great and all that but sexually and
romantically, no. There are gay and bi
creatures in all of the animal kingdom and
in the kingdom of man. I don't expect
someone who is straight to appreciate the
different levels of sexuality...Kinsey 1
threw Kinsey 6...and thats cool. I know
who and what i am and I don't feel the
need to explain myself to anyone. Most
people believe what they believe and that
wont change no matter what I say or what
anyone else says. Its cool to agree to
disagree..
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marvel
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Posted: 02-07-08 19:50pm
I love you homerx. haha.
I'm gay. I was born gay. When I was
younger, if I had a choice, I would have
chosen to be straight... hands down. So
many people dont' realise how hard it is
to come to accept your own homosexuality.
However, my NATURAL tendencies have led me
to like men.... and, as of right now, I'm
completely happy with it.
Can you choose to be attracted to blonde
over brunettes? or Heavy women over slim
women? Chances are you can't. You
naturally react to a certain type of
person. I naturally react to men. I have
tried being with women, and though I get
along with them very well, I am not
attracted to them enough to sustain any
sort of relationship or long lasting
sexual relationship. I have been with a
man for almost a year and have never been
happier. Did I choose to come out of the
closet? Of course. Did I choose to be
attracted to men? Absolutely not. Do not
get the two confused because if you do,
you are grossly misinformed.
As for the anal sex part. I think that the
body is full of areas that can be
stimulated or accessed for pleasure.
Pleasure is a natural part of human
existence. Why? The body is loaded with
pleasure centres. Some people find certain
things pleasureful, other people do not.
Just because one person does not find
something pleasureful, does not mean it
broadly isn't. Different parts of the body
have different (and multiple) functions,
some of which can include getting rid of
waste AS WELL AS being a pleasure centre
(oh, my, the penis comes to mind). Saying
the anus is exit only when someone can
find prostate stimulation or anal sex
pleasurable is naive at best.
Is oral sex wrong? Is swallowing semen
wrong? It all depends on how YOU
personally see it. As long as you do it
safely, and with mutual consent... it's
totally subjective.
Therefore, if you safely and consensually
engage in anal sex and enjoy it, it's NOT
wrong. End of story.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-07-08 20:01pm
marvel, thanks.
You are right...I agree with everything
you said. I think a lot of gay kids want
to be straight because it would be so much
easier. You are accepted at school and you
are just like all the other kids in your
school if you are straight. It aint so
easy to be gay. For one thing, you have to
pretend your like everyone else just for
your own safety...that sucks!
Just like I am sure handicapped kids want
to be "normal" and blind kids want to see.
When you are young you give a s*it what
people think. Hopefully you grow out of
that and into your own. Be you. Be true to
yourself and you cant go wrong. Dont be
what you think people want you to be, be
what and who you are.
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young Girl
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Posted: 02-07-08 20:13pm
mr tibbs
wrote:
Why? So you think it morally
acceptable for a man to stick his penis
into another man's
rectum.
its not your judgemnet or you to say if
its ok or not THANKYOUVERYMUCH
its FINE
gay
straight
whatever
dont be a hater now
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young Girl
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Posted: 02-07-08 20:50pm
marvel and homer you know what? you two
are extremly strong smart men. dont ever
let anyone bring you down about your
sexuality. the world is blind. there is so
much racism that still floats around this
world its unreal.
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kapowkristen
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Posted: 02-07-08 21:22pm
i dont think there is anything wrong with
it. have you ever thought of how unhealthy
same sex is?
yeah.
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young Girl
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Posted: 02-07-08 21:31pm
what do you mean how "unhealthy" it is?
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homerx
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Posted: 02-07-08 21:51pm
the_girlfriend
wrote:
marvel and homer you know
what? you two are extremly strong smart
men. dont ever let anyone bring you down
about your sexuality. the world is blind.
there is so much racism that still floats
around this world its
unreal.
Thank you, girlfriend...I LOVE YOU! Love
is a gift, not a curse...don't let the
haters of this world get you down...they
are just miserable with themselves and
there fore have to take it out on the
lovers of the world.Peace,DOLL!!! YOU ROCK!
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homerx
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Posted: 02-07-08 21:57pm
kapowkristen
wrote:
i dont think there is
anything wrong with it. have you ever
thought of how unhealthy same sex is?
yeah.
kapowkristen, you say there is nothing
wrong with it and then, in the same
sentence you say its
unhealthy...UUmmm...ok... You
say in your profile that you are bi and
have a girlfriend...but thats OK??? Come
on, you cant have one set of rules for
yourself and another for everyone else. If
you are bi then be bi, if you are straight
then be straight, if you are gay then be
gay, but STOP with the finger pointing and
judgment. You are bi??? There is something
wrong with that logic then. R U saying its
OK for girls to be bi but not guys? Thats
a wee hypocritical, don't you think??? I
was also looking at your past posts and
your profile and you have head trips that
you may want to have a shrink check out.
Talk to someone for real. I am not trying
to be mean but your confused. Your very
young and I think you may need to talk to
a professional. I don't want you to hurt
yourself. You say you have a girlfriend.
Great. Now is it OK if I have a boyfriend?
Do you and your girlfriend have sex? If so
great, if not, thats great also, but do
not come on here and try to tell me who
and what to do in my relationship. That
bird wont fly with me! You have to give
respect to get respect. But for real, if
you are depressed and cutting yourself or
have a eating disorder or whatever it is
you are doing, GET HELP. Tell your parents
or teachers or counciler or someone but
don't let it eat you alive and dont take
it out on us innocent bystanders
please.Peace and Love and I hope you can
get it together.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-07-08 22:18pm
the_girlfriend
wrote:
mr tibbs
wrote:
Why? So you think it morally
acceptable for a man to stick his penis
into another man's
rectum.
its not your judgemnet or you to say if
its ok or not THANKYOUVERYMUCH
its FINE
gay
straight
whatever
dont be a hater
now
I see mr tibbs didn't mention if it was
morally discusting to stick his penis in a
womans rectum!!! I think mr.tibbs is too
old to change his hatter ways...lost
cause...plus, if you look at his past
posts under his profile, hes a bit of an
old perv. Just what we need, another old
perve preaching to us about morals!
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lele25
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Posted: 02-07-08 22:57pm
Of course its ok! Its all about what you
want and who you want regardless as to
whether or not its male/female or
conventional! Life is too short to worry
about something that gives you pleasure.
You love who you love! Just be careful and
realize that there's nothing wrong with
what you feel....despite what Mike
Hucka-wanna-throw-him-off-a-bridge might
say! Sorry I just really hate him.....and
he won for Rep. for Alabama....very upset!
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homerx
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Posted: 02-08-08 00:34am
lele25
wrote:
Of course its ok! Its all
about what you want and who you want
regardless as to whether or not its
male/female or conventional! Life is too
short to worry about something that gives
you pleasure. You love who you love! Just
be careful and realize that there's
nothing wrong with what you
feel....despite what Mike
Hucka-wanna-throw-him-off-a-bridge might
say! Sorry I just really hate him.....and
he won for Rep. for Alabama....very
upset!
lele25, I was very upset about Huckabutt
myself. Just
what we need, another republican tight ass
close minded homophone old fart in office.
Its sad and scary that Americans are
walking down that path. ..your pain is my
pain 2.!
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mr tibbs
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Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 51 Location: england
Posted: 02-15-08 17:36pm
homerx
wrote:
the_girlfriend
wrote:
mr tibbs
wrote:
Why? So you think it morally
acceptable for a man to stick his penis
into another man's
rectum.
its not your judgemnet or you to say if
its ok or not THANKYOUVERYMUCH
its FINE
gay
straight
whatever
dont be a hater
now
I see mr tibbs didn't mention if it was
morally discusting to stick his penis in a
womans rectum!!! I think mr.tibbs is too
old to change his hatter ways...lost
cause...plus, if you look at his past
posts under his profile, hes a bit of an
old perv. Just what we need, another old
perve preaching to us about morals!
Goodness me, I have ruffled your feathers
haven't I?
Your posts started in such a mawkish,
syrupy declaration of 'How I love
everyone...' (simper, simper) Now you want
to scratch my eyes out and hit me with
your purse!
To be labelled an old perv by the likes of
you is a positive compliment!!
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mr tibbs
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Posted: 02-15-08 17:45pm
the_girlfriend
wrote:
mr tibbs
wrote:
Why? So you think it morally
acceptable for a man to stick his penis
into another man's
rectum.
its not your judgemnet or you to say if
its ok or not THANKYOUVERYMUCH
its FINE
gay
straight
whatever
dont be a hater
now
It most certainly is my judgement! I think
it NOT ok to stick your penis into a male
or female's bottom. I suppose you haven't
heard of a rather nasty condition called
HIV spread as a result of this
'beautiful,natural' sexual perversion.