Schizophrenia or Demonic possesion Posted: 01-29-08 17:08pm
This is EXPLICIT...I 've had a lot of the
same symptoms I've been reading on the
Schizophrenia post, the voices, the
feeling that people can read my mind the
paranoia ect., but not sure about the
phisical things that is happening.
I here several voices but the main one is
a male and they wont tell me there names.
I gave him a name as he talks a makes
remarks all day long. Often when he wants
to make a point he nudges at the same time
when he talks. We have clear
communication except he wont answer
important questions. He touches, pokes,
jiggles, cools and heats my body, shakes
things, makes any part of my body move or
jerks or anything physical he wants to.
When I'm trying to sleep at night he rolls
my eyeballs and other things to anoy me or
to let me know he wants attentention.
Like one member said it almost like an
invisible friend. Although I'm not quite
sure if they are my friends because they
started out beating and zapping me and
ordering me to do things terrorized me in
the begining.
One day all of a sudden he started tapping
my vagina, and I'd say, that is very
disrespectful. afraid but I would say it
anyway. Soon after it tured into a
sensation there and then pulses, and
something that feels like penetration and
feeling like he is trying to give me a
climax and sometimes did. I'm taking meds
and the voices and sex act with all the
sensation is still going on. I am tired
of it all but I try not to show how upset
I am, and also try not to cuss then too
much because every day they show me that
they are in charge by sticking me with
pins all over my body and other ways.
Still HORRIFIED...Schizophrenia or Demonic
possesion?
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Philo
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Posted: 01-29-08 17:34pm
That's pretty weird. I'm having weird
sensations too, but different. The devil
has invaded my body and is making it cold
and shivery. Sometimes I feel like I've
descended into hell. He also moves around
my forehead and eyeball muscles, frowns
and speaks to me about the money I once
borrowed as a student. He says they were
diabolical loans and that they are
invading my whole body, which feels so
horrible that sometimes I wish I wasn't
alive. In your case I don't think it's
demonic posession, but in my case I do
wonder. I don't know what to tell you.
Oh, yeah, and I sometimes also sort of
wake up in the morning, not quite awake
yet, but I'm conscious of being in my bed,
and I feel an immaterial being wanting to
have sex with me. Its body is warm and
cuddly, sometimes it's female and
sometimes male. Then I really wake up and
its gone.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 01-31-08 15:40pm
luvvy- you are on medication, so I'm
guessing you are under the care of a
doctor?
Tell your doctor what you are feeling,
even print out your message to use and
give it to her/him. Your doctor should
have some insight and possibly help you
manage these feelings.
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telepath
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Posted: 03-03-08 14:48pm
I agree with Philo that it's weird.
I think it's true though, because I also
hear voices of people. They seem to know
me, my name, family and friends. They have
been attacking me daily for 10 years or
more. They are telepathic people, who can
also make you feel the things that they
do. They have anal sex to get on my
nerves.
They change my moods sometimes, making me
become depressed and they happy.
They have also threatened my family. I
don't know why, but everything bad that
they are doing they are trying to blame on
me, trying to make out that they have a
split personality and that they are being
me, but I know what they are doing is not
what I would have done, so I argue my
point. Some are really stupid, I hear them
in the background having sex.
I thought they were changing my mind or
squeezing it, because I feel pressure
above my left or right eye as if my brain
was becomming too big to fit my head. I
also thought they were changing the color
of my eyes, I did have brown eyes, but
they changed to a nice deep blue color, a
mixture of all colors, a green color and
also a brown ring surrounding a blue ring
of color.
They talk all day long, non-stop. I don't
know how many there are, maybe hundreds.
Some seem close by while others seem to be
further away. Sometimes they are quite
quiet, but at other times they have been
deafening.
I know I get a bit paranoid from time to
time and have done for over 30 years, but
it's like the whole city is out to get me.
This includes the local government, even
my own family and sister are in on the
conspiracy and I think they have been
doing it since I was at school.
Anyway I think they may be some kind of
demons or maybe an alien race which has
come to destroy all of mankind. They also
make me smell them from time to time, some
smell very different to others.
They can jump out of their bodies and into
your body and make you act like them.
I hope you feel better soon and that they
leave you and all others they attack alone
to get on with our own lives. They must be
really sad to be doing such a thing.
Good luck.
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Posted: 03-03-08 19:02pm
Demonical, are you on medication at the
moment? These voices must be very
wearing, never giving you a minute's
peace. They sound like demanding children
and they will demand more and more
attention till you tell them 'enough!'
You should seek advice from your doctor as
to how to quieten them so that you can get
some rest and 'me' time! Try to be good
to yourself and don't listen to them when
they try to annoy you with their demands
and silly behaviour!
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telepath
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Posted: 03-04-08 16:16pm
Hi shonster.
I am not on any medication nor have I
consulted any doctor. The last time I was
seeing a psychotherapist was in 1997 for
depression. I was going to try for another
visit, but they said my therapist wasn't
there and that I couldn't see her. Then
thoughts started going through my mind and
I ended losing my mind thinking the
reception staff were witches and ran away
in panic, never to return.
They can be quite tireing, but my sleep
isn't that good anyway, I have only had 2
nights sleep where I have woken up feeling
refreshed and full of energy in 25 years.
One day in the late 1980's, where I had 3
hours and 15 mins sleep and woke as if I
was on top of the world, another was in
the 1990's when I was doing a lot of
canabis, I was with a dealer's brother and
he gave me a df and a sleeping pill and
some vodka. It was the first time I had
tried pills and after going home and
sleeping, I awoke and once again I was
full of energy.
I wish I could remember the name of the
sleeping pills, I know that they were the
same as a type of schitzophrenic pill, but
instead of di-*** it was tri-*** or
something like that, but never mind.
I did ask my doctor for sleeping pills in
the 1980's, but he wouldn't give me any
and suggested herbal pills instead, which
didn't work. lol
From time to time I do get tired and on
sunday was quite bad spending most of the
day in bed and then failed to go to work
on monday because I was too tired.
I also have short term memory loss, I do
things like put the kettle on for a coffee
and then remember it's being made about an
hour or so later, not sure if this is due
to the voices. I got to thinking they move
my memory around so that I forget things.
Like when my father died, the house was
sold, but I forgot about it for 12 years
and my sister still didn't give me
anything from the sale.
Anyway have a good one.
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randomthoughts
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Posted: 03-22-08 17:27pm
Very interesting topic... I experience a
lot of the same symptoms... the voices of
course, but I also feel that when I'm in
bed half-asleep, I get the impression of
someone in bed with me, a guy or a girl
messing around with me. Some of you seem
to say you feel this during the DAY though
and I am lucky to say I have not
experienced that.
Now, I wanted to suggest just one more
possiblity here... malicious use of
advanced technology! Yes, this could be
just a part of our disorder, its all in
our heads. Ok, MAYBE its demonic
possession, but even being a Christian I
find that highly unlikely. Lastly,
consider the fact that we are a
technologically advanced species with the
ability to see down on the planet at fine
resolutions, the ability to read thoughts
(yes the technology exists PUBLICLY in
deceptively primitive forms) and
manipulate the mind.
I am personally 99% convinced that due to
some poor life decisions that rubbed some
people the wrong way, I victimized myself
and have become a target of people with
access to this technology for the simple
purpose of ENTERTAINMENT and abuse. And
that said, I'm now at least half convinced
that millions of people who are seen with
some sort of mental disorder or
defficiency are being victimized as well.
It seems like everyone around me who is
considered "normal" are aware of whats
going on with me. I'm constantly called a
freak and being put down. They just make
it too obvious... I hear the voices of
former friends in my head and complete
strangers.
Now, its hard to explain why some of you
have been dealing with this since the
70's... its hard to imagine the technology
existing back then... but we did make it
to the moon! And ok, far fetched but
PERHAPS we have access to alien
technology. And given that the Virgina
Tech shooter, the mall shooter, and the
megachurch shooter were all considered
"weird" and dealing with mental disorders,
including schiz, I fail to understand why
we let crimes like that actually happen.
Well anyways, just more food for thought.
It's kinda depressing because it seems to
imply that "normal" society is apathetic
or entertained by the idea of tormenting
the rest of us.
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alziluth
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Posted: 03-22-08 23:43pm
random thoughts. what the voices are
telling you is not real. You have not
rubbed anybody the wrong way, and nobody
is using technology to torment you.
Please get a new doctor and he or she will
help you to get relief from this.
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muzzkemal
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Demonic Possession Posted: 04-14-08 20:37pm
Having read all of your accounts I can
clarify that yes it is demonic possesion
but please dont be afraid or lose heart
this thing can be beaten as I have been
through it and am still going through it.
I come from a muslim background but never
really practised Islam as I believed in
God but preferred to be labelled spiritual
rather than follow an organised religion
which in my eyes was just rigamarole.
However after being wrongly diagnosed with
Schizophrenia my father took me to see a
religious cleric that explained to me what
was really happening. What was happening
was manipulation and possession by the
Jinn.
The Jinn are servants of the Devil (i know
this sounds far fetched) and are
hologramic bodies of light that you cannot
see or touch. They are like Humans in that
they have communities are male, female,
gay, straight etc and are structurally
superior to humans. Their composition is
much like that of the angels bar one
important factor they are created of a
smokeless flame and are attracted to smoke
so quitting smoking is imperative, if you
dont smoke then dont start.
They will try their hardest often
repeating over and over again the same
things to deviate you from the straight
path.
The universe is made up of particles and
waves and its in that realm that they
operate and live, right now in your house
there are waves all around you that you
dont believe in because your five senses
dont pick them up and in fact block the
neurons in your brain. We are actually,
despite our illnesses at a higher level of
consciousness than other people that go
about their daily lives unaware of these
beings.
They can make you hallucinate, hear their
voices (often impersonating people dead or
alive, mine have impersonated God and
angels!), they can touch you, go into your
body and change your gaze and persona,
they can try to molest your five senses
there are so many ways they have affected
people over the generations.
So what do we do about it?
Here are some tips to help you!
1.Try and be as calm and serene as
possible
2.Be brave
3.Think positive thoughts
4.Keep your mind busy and productive - the
idle mind is the devils playground.
5.Ignore the voices, ignore them - I know
its hard.
6.Keep yourself clean, wash everyday.
7.Quit smoking and definitely dont do
drugs.
8.If you are religious go to church or
mosque.
9.Zikir- this is a remembrance of god
exercise and is a way to zap the jinns
like you had a laser gun! All you have to
do is repeat the names of God according to
your religion over and over in your mind
- NOT SPOKEN OUT LOUD. So if you're muslim
there are 99 names of God like Halim or
Muid or Moqtada. In Christianity and
Judaism the names are Jehovah, Adonai etc.
Look them up on Google. You may see people
with Rosary beads what they are in fact
doing is using these beads to recite the
names of God in their head to keep the
Jinn away from them.
Read a book called Spirit, Man Jinn by
Ahmed Hulusi, once you have read this book
you will feel a sense of relief that you
are not alone in your problem and it will
give you the answers to your problems like
I hope I have in my condensed version
here.
Good luck my people
Peace out
Mus
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Schizophrenia or Demonic Possession Posted: 04-18-08 11:11am
Hi Folks,
I am a therapist. I practice yoga-breath
therapy. In 1984 I was quickly healed of
years of emotional problems with yoga
breathing. It has changed my life.
Through yoga breathing I have discovered
that the spiritual domains actually do
exist. Ponder this … the verb “to
breathe” is synonymous with “to
inspire”. When you breathe in the way of
yoga, you are accessing divine healing.
When you hear voices in your head you are
hearing spirits. I know this from my
personal experience. Don’t listen to the
shrinks who tell you this is not reality.
That’s how they make their living. There
are all kinds of spiritual stuff that can
be happening to you, including a
“kundalini awakening” or shamanic
experiences.
Recently I coached a client who had
emotional issues through a breathing
session. Toward the end of the session she
started screaming, loud and long. At the
end of it she said, “There was a spirit
inside me. I saw a cloud of white light
leaving from my mouth. The yelling made it
leave. This is what has been tearing me
apart all this time. Now it’s gone.” I
did not witness the white cloud, but my
personal history told me not to doubt it.
So, here is my coaching to you who feel
possessed in any way … get into yoga
breathing. People with symptoms of
schizophrenia should also do this, whether
or not you feel possessed. Find people who
are called “rebirthers”. There’s
plenty of information on the internet …
key words: rebirthing, rebirthers,
conscious breathing. When you do the
breathing avoid taking any medication, it
will diminish the efficacy of the
breathing process.
Diet is important. A poor diet, lacking
niacin, can have adrenal glands
malfunction, causing schizophrenic
episodes. Same goes for bad kidneys. Check
your kidneys and your diet.
Best wishes to you.
Nick
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They aren't demons, they are just voices dont listen to that man Posted: 04-19-08 03:13am
Please dont listen to the man who said it
was demonic possession. I hope that you
are able to lift yourself out of this
situation into better times. I have had
very similar things happen to me and I
know how all to easy it is to convince
yourself its a demonic possession. its
not. Its very important that if your meds
aren't suppressing your voices for you to
try another medication. I understand that
when you go through something like this
its very difficult to verbalize. its hard
to express, and much easier done over the
internet. the more you can communicate
this to your doctor the better, and let
him know the current meds aren't doing the
trick. i realize its very difficult going
what you are going through. from my
experience its best not to attempt
communication with voices. it seems to
make them worse. even when they are
talking to you or asking a question do
your best not to react. and remember meds
can help you greatly. hang in there.
dont give up. remember despite what your
going through, meds do the best job of
putting it under control.
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muzzkemal
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Posted: 04-23-08 15:42pm
I really like the idea of Yoga breathing I
think I'm definitely going to check that
one out as many cultures have their own
unique way of dealing with spiritual
dilemmas. I'm not going to try and
convince anyone that this is definitely
demonic possesion but all you have to do
is read the bible or koran and read about
how Jesus and Muhammad helped rid people
of unclean spirits. The Jinn tend to
molest people who are at a low point in
their lives so getting a job, leading a
healhty and productive life is essential.
By all means take your medication, for me
it just had too many side effects
preventing me from leading a productive
life. What the medication will do is cut
the bio electrical signals in your brain
from picking up on these spirits so you
will have some peace but at the end of the
day you have to lead a productive and
healthy life and religion is just one way
of giving you the tools to do that, after
all prayer hs many meditative effects.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 04-23-08 18:14pm
I just wanted to make sure you were all
aware of this, it can be read in the topic
"What to post here"
admin
wrote:
This forum has been created
to support and discuss issues related to
schizophrenia, whether or not you have
been diagnosed with the condition. Please,
however, refrain from encouraging
cessation of medication. New topics that
attempt to convince others to cease
medications will be removed.
Additionally, there is no empirical
evidence to indicate that mental illness
is a sign of demon possession; this belief
propagates the thought that mental illness
is not a biological disease, that
something is wrong with a person’s
"thoughts" and that if they would just
think differently it could change.
"
I would never discourage religious
practice or beliefs, I would just suggest
that you make sure you are getting
adequate medical help as well. I think
admin explained this pretty well.
Again, I am not and never will say that
spirits don't exist, I just think it's
important that we give this horrible
(medical) disease of schizophrenia all the
respect it deserves. Just as I would never
tell someone "It's all in your head," I
would also never tell them "It's all in
your beliefs."
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Georgia59
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Posted: 04-23-08 18:17pm
didn't want to discourage conversation or
step on any toes, just add my input.
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Philo
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In spite of all I said above, I don't
think that demons exist. They are an
internal anomaly of the mind/body. It is
not good to give them more power than they
have by affirming their existence.
Schizophrenia is an intelligent sickness
and understands what you believe, blows it
up and plays around with it making your
illness worse. Therefore it is better to
explain these "demons" away rather then
affirming them. Anyone visiting this site
will do us a service by keeping their
radical spiritual beliefs to themselves.
Equanimity is key for us, so don't upset
us more than necessary.
This site belongs to Dr. Grof, a
psychiatrist in California who heals with
yoga breathing. He calls it holotropic
breathwork: http://www.holotropic.com/
This site contains a discussion of Dr.
Grof’s work, which includes healing
people who’ve had spiritual experiences
with yoga breathing; what they refer to as
transcendent experiences: http://ww
w.spiritmoving.com/papers/SpiritPsychosis.
htm
Good luck.
Nick
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muzzkemal
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Remove my post Posted: 04-24-08 11:45am
Hi can u remove all my posts on here
please as I dont know how to do it.
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muzzkemal
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Posted: 04-25-08 05:19am
Actually I have changed my mind I dont
want my posts removed and I resent being
called a religious zealot, as I definitely
am not! I love science, my father is a
scientist and we regularly talk about
scientific matters. In the past Galileo
was tortured by men of religion for
suggesting that the world wasnt flat and
it seems that in the last 150 years
science has progressed so fast that the
opposite has occured and religious
solutions are taboo. If you read what I
wrote properly I said that IF you are
religious then it could help, and its way
down my list of solutions to help overcome
this problem. I have read widely about
Schizophrenia and can tell you that modern
scientists view schizophrenia as largely a
chemical imbalance in your brain and while
this is true I dont think classical
psychologists like Freud should be
discredited for their research on this
matter. If you're having problems of a
sexual nature with these spirits, as I
did, they used to touch my penis etc then
it could be that like me you need to
explore your sexuality with real people
more as I discovered that in my case my
psychosis was down to intense sexual
conflict in my mind. No doctor ever helped
me discover this, so you really have to
explain your situation as well as you can
to your doctor so that they can actually
help you.
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Philo
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Posted: 04-25-08 12:54pm
Galileo was never tortured and didn't say
the world wasn't flat. He was put under
house arrest for supporting Copernicus'
theory that the Earth orbits around the
Sun. I just don't see you as an authority.
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muzzkemal
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Posted: 04-26-08 03:40am
Funny i was thinking the same thing..I'm
trying to help, not be an authority..get
ur facts straight.
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