The products I have seen the best help with is called reliv and they make patented formulas. I can tell you that there is nothing else like them on the market because of there patents. I have seen people with oa, ra and other forms of arthritis become pain free. I have a lady friend that was going to have her thumb fused because it hurt so bad from an auto accident. My wife told her about the products and decided to try them before having surgery. One month later cancelled her surgery and now is pain free and even better can use her thumb again. I know story after story. These products work I promise.