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Q: possibly bp and OCD
asked by: PoodleLover on January 25th, 2008
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Hi everyone!

Whenever I have upset mood symptoms, I'd search "bipolar" and read about it and sometimes think that perhaps I have that or depression. Here's a bit of my history....

When I was 16 (sophomore in high school), my closest uncle attempted suicide, was in the hospital for 3 weeks in a coma, and then his family decided to "pull the plug" and he passed away. My emotions were very numb throughout this whole process, and about 4-5 months after his death, I began having emotional and mental issues. I've always been a perfectionist and OCD tendencies seem to run in my family (we always joke about them), but suddenly my OCD began getting really, really bad. There would be days and maybe even weeks where all I could do was sit in my room and cry, feeling as if the world was coming to an end, feeling despairing, feeling like I was a terrible, awful person that would end up eternally punished, having a huge sense of foreboding, feeling spiritually and mentally disturbed, and being really OCD about certain things. Sometimes I'd talk and whisper to myself (I think that was one of my OCD things), and I couldn't do school work or practice my instrument (which I was pursuing for college). I went to a counselor for about 1 1/2 years, which really helped, but it took me awhile to get over things and every one or two months I'd have reoccurring bouts of these symptoms. I never saw a medical doctor, but looking back I assumed that I had depression. (Does it sound like it?) I'd get these reoccurring bouts especially around Christmas time. Ever since this whole ordeal, I haven't felt like the person I used to be, but perhaps that's part of growing up. I almost feel like part of me is torn inside and it's not healed (but maybe it's because I seem to be entering one of my "down" moods right now).

A few years later, I went to college, halfway across the country, and especially there I kept feeling better and better, perhaps because I was in a different environment and the memories from my awful junior year of high school (the worst year of my life) couldn't haunt me because I wasn't at home where it all had happened. Every time I'd come home, I'd kind of feel this kind of haunting feeling, but things have been better and I haven't had any of these awful "depression" bouts for a few years. However, I didn't allow myself to actually feel sad and cry about my uncle's death until last year. (I'm now 21, a junior in college.)

Even though I don't get those awful, completely demobilizing periods, I still get "down," and sometimes I feel really down. I used to wear my emotions on my sleeve all the time, but this schoolyear I've tried not to burden others with my small troubles, so I keep my problems to myself and I have usually shared my problems with friends after they've passed. Sometimes something will trigger a sad or upset emotion in me, and I go over the top with it and I will lie in bed at night or sit in a room by myself, crying about it. I'll also spend time on the internet looking up sad or depressed quotes when I'm feeling down. I think part of me enjoys feeling down and feeling sorry for myself, sadly enough. However, then I'll get these "high" periods. I've been trying to keep a "Mood and Food" diary, of what I eat and what my mood is like every day. Two weeks ago, my mood was very low, and then it went up to a "regular" mood. Then good things started happening to me (had verbal, positive reinforcement from people I care about, had good prospects for summer activities ahead of me, etc.) and I felt like I was on top of the world! Life looked so bright and happy! One of my friends told me "you're on a high right now," to which I replied, "Yeah, I feel as if I could tackle the world!" At that point I felt that my life was in order, I was really organized, people respected me, people noticed my hard work, I was positive, and I was ready to tackle anything that came my way! The thought of hard work did not phase me, either.

I was in a very good, positive mood for a whole week, and then today a little thing happened which struck one of my mood chords and I began feeling down again. It wasn't even that big of a thing (my good friends were going out tonight, and I was standing right there but wasn't exactly included in the conversation, and they didn't even ask if I wanted to come along). I distracted myself from moping by hanging out w/ other people, but once I was by myself at my apartment, I began feeling down, looking up sad quotes, and kind of berating myself inside, feeling that they totally forgot I'm 21 now, or that they didn't ask me because they don't want me coming with them; I thought how I wouldn't make a good co-chair of our student advocacy group even though I was just told last week that I would make an excellent one, felt like no one notices me or the hard work I do (even though I was told people do notice), and I almost felt like crying.

So I'll go through a good mood and then something will rub me the wrong way and will send me into a bad mood, and I'm not sure what to make of this. Is it just because I'm a girl and we like to get emotional over little things? I just don't understand how I can feel so happy and then one little thing will tear down that happiness and I won't even want to try to feel good...I'll just want to wallow in my sadness.

Perhaps I'm just imagining that I have a problem, and maybe it isn't as bad as I'm making it out to be. I'd just like some other, objective opinions, if others wouldn't mind.

Also, I can get very ambitious (going along with wanting to "tackle the world"), and I always have to keep busy or I'll feel restless and down.
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antigone
replied on January 27th, 2008
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Maybe just chronic depression?
You sound like my 19 yr. old son. He is really a great guy but over analyzes everything to the point of analysis paralysis. He gets bummed easily - everything in general and nothing in particular. When he wasn't feeling down or anxious he was a pretty happy guy. I finally asked him one day to try St. John's wart. He did and feels much better. Much more even. If he forgets to take it life spirals down and he becomes anxious and depressed.

You should go to a psychiatrist. Talk about this. Maybe you do have a bipolar disorder. Perhaps it is a depressive disorder. Until you get to a doc, keep doing you mood chart. Rate your highs and lows, like on a scale 1-10. Make one end of the scale the extreme in depression - inability to get out of bed for days or suicidal thoughts. Make the other end the extreme in mania - you feel like superman/woman. Place your mood for the day on the scale where you think it fits most appropriately. This will be most helpful to a doctor to see a chart like that.

BTW - just because we are women, pms does not make us crazy! It just makes us want to super! LOL

Take care and go see someone!
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ladylee70
replied on January 27th, 2008
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Antigone...you just joined but I love your responses. You have very good advice!! Stick around.
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antigone
replied on January 28th, 2008
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Thank you, Ladylee! Back at you. You have the personal experience taking some of the meds. All I can offer is what I see in my kids. I've been around people who have bpd most of my life. It sure makes life interesting!
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Go2extremes
replied on February 7th, 2008
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I'm Bipolar and OCD
You are not alone, my Drs have told me that many Bipolar patients also have some type of OCD. Mild or sometimes severe. It is a common to have triggers that can turn a perfectly good day upside down in your head...and you get OCD about that thought and can not let it go. Before my family found out I was BP, they used to "tease" me about being tired all the time and all I do is sleep. There were times I would get so angry and upset over that 1 comment it would ruin my entire day, even bring me to tears on a real bad day. I think when your BP you are unable to let things go as easily as others, as Anigone said, you analyze everything and it becomes this monster in your head. "Why do they say I'm tired, they must think I am weak or lazy...blah blah". Its part of being BP and there are mind exercises to do to break the cycle and repetition. Also, knowing your triggers and avoiding them has helped me incredibly. Good luck Smile
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