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lloyder

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determining bipolar
Posted: 01-24-08 05:10am

just wondering if anyone could help me out here , when i was younger i felt a little bit off, i was a very impulsive kind of guy , a lot of ups and downs in my mind, i started taking effexor when i was 19 becase i jusgt felt a little off, slightly depressed i would say,when i started taking effexor i felt unbeleivable it was like i could do anything and was so confident and things just happened , i was really fired up all the time and felt unreal ,then i started getting worried about how high i was all the time so i started trying to slow it down a bit and i crashed , justg by thinking certain ways it all changed, since then i have had really bead anxiety and depression,which has been about 4 years, lately i started taking stratera for add and i have started to have these times if i think a certain way my mind just goes and i feel euphoria again and it will stay for days or hours , it mainly revolves around my mentality and how i choose to think , like i can set it off most times and then other times i will be so low that i cant get to that euphric state, and when in euphoric state i could think a certain way and get depressed,i dont know i just feel like i could be bipolar it semms to fit a lot of the symptoms,if anyone could let me know how they see it and maybe share if they have had the same symptoms and maybe chat about experiences that would be great , thanks matt
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Posted: 01-24-08 19:57pm

hi matt,

i believe that our bodies don't produce certain chemicals depending on what your ailment is and with varying amounts of chemical levels. now, when we take meds to take over, if you will, our bodies get used to not having to produce said chemicals. so, when you come off or change/alter meds your body doesn't know what to do because it's been on autopilot for so long. i could be way off here but this is logical to me.

it is important that you realize that you might be sick. and you don't have complete control of your emotions. you can't reason with a chemical. however, you can stimulate the production of them or reduce the production also. but, i find that i'm no good for anything or self improvement unless i am on meds. my lows are dangerously low and i do enjoy mania. some of us lean more to one side or the other. i'm more of a low bp. i have bp 1 w/out psychotic episodes.

another thing... when i take add meds i feel high/happy because i can focus and it gives me energy to function. but, i haven't been diagnosed with add so i don't take meds for it. i also have severe anxiety, but i take meds for that, too.

lots of mental health problems start in your teens and they get worse the older you get. especially if you are miss diagnosed and/or on the wrong meds. like i was for the last 13 years.

did you stop taking the effexor all at once or slowly? have you been treated by a psychiatrist and/or counselor? i wish i could turn my mood swings up and down with my mind but when i get bad i lose control of my mind and it takes on a life of its own.

another thing... there is a type of phase that some people go through in their 20's. i think it's referred to as the mid-20's crisis. and, after some treatment, time and patience it just goes away. please keep in mind that i am no dr by any means. i've just been dealing with tons of issues for a looooong time =)
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lloyder

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hey thanks.
Posted: 01-25-08 00:37am

thanks for replying, yeah i just dont know what is up with me, i took effexor for about 9 months and i started feeling bad after about 4 or 5 months, i have takin other stuff like clonazapam and paxil and cyroquel and just latley stated strattera for add and to help the racing thoughts, i find when i am on antidepressants i am more energetic and at time pretty anxious , but i am just reaslly concerned with my anxiety it goes in and out, depending on my mentallity , it is going up and down so much and more intensely lately and less controlable , i was just weondering if you know what would happen to a bipolar if they took anti depressants and or an add medication , because both have made big changes for me but i feel like there is always something, becasue one ay i will fell just great and then in little time i can feel myself coming down or can sense it coming and then i go back up again later on , anyways thanks for replying and i would like to go back and forth more if you dont moind
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Posted: 01-25-08 08:16am

i don't mind at all =)

it's possible that your dose of effexor is no longer working because your body has built up a tolerance to it... or that the drug itself is not working.

i took anti-depressants for many years for major depressive disorder, PTSD and meds for anxiety. the anti-depressants helped on a few occasions but they never set me straight. this is because i was bp and needed to be on the correct meds. and, now that i am, i'm starting to feel better than ever.

are you seeing a doctor? what kind of doctor? this is important info...

all people go through ups and downs... but, bpd episodes are extreme and dangerous. are you experiencing other symptoms of bp?

when i take add meds now, being on seroquel 600 mg, cymbalta 60mg, lamictal 200 mg and clonazapam 6 mg per day, as opposed to taking it when i wasn't on these meds, it still seemed to help me a lot. more energy, confidence, concentration, able to absorb info, could carry on a 'normal' conversation with out zoning out, etc. i think i am add but my dr. does not. i've never been tested.
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Posted: 01-25-08 08:33am

Funny you should mention, both my therapist and my doc says that ADD/ADHD is a possibility but theyre not interested in testing for it...I kinda see-saw in between.

I'm wondering if having bp doesn't maybe have similar affects as ADD/ADHD, espetially when in a manic state...which might explain why they can't pinpoint wether an ADD test is necissary or not...
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Posted: 01-25-08 09:23am

hmm, that's a good point. i'll discuss it further at my next appointment.. not sure when it is though.
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Posted: 01-25-08 09:30am

Let me know what the verdict is, when you do get an appointment that is Smile

Speaking of which...my chronic prescription is almost up so I most prob should get an appointment again. With my last job I kinda fell out of meeting with my therapist as my boss didn't take too kindly to my appointments which unfortunately could not always be arranged in such a way as to not interfere with work hours...some people are just so driven by money it makes me sick.
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