Hello I was wondering if creatine is ok
for me to take. I play football and
basketball and im trying to get bigger and
gain weight and I work out all the time
but I need some more help and seeing if
creatine is ok and wont ruin my health.
Does it help you jump higher too? And is
it worth the buy
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southcoach
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 65
Yo Posted: 07-14-04 16:39pm
Creatine is okay for you to take if you
take it correctly. However, it works
more for some people and less for
others...After all everybody responds
differently to things so no promises.
Creatine is designed to replace lost
phosphate molecules used in producing atp
(energy). In other words, it gives you a
little boost of energy to improve your
endurance in exercise allowing you to run
faster, lift more, etc. If your goal is
to gain size, while it may do this, I warn
you that when you stop taking it you may
yet again get smaller due to the fact that
the large bulk of weight you gain is due
to water retention. If bulking is your
goal, rather than performance, then I
suggest a diet change and increase in
calories. Creatine is more for
performance. Hope I helped-any more
questions lemme know.
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eric16
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 07-27-04 16:43pm
You shouldnt need creatine if you have a
good workout and are lifting weights
properly to gain muscle mass. What is
your workout? How many sets/reps do you
do? If you need help with a workout I
know good ones for building muscle mass.
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miller2190
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Location: GA
Posted: 08-04-04 22:12pm
I heard creatine is really bad for you
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eric16
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-04-04 22:15pm
miller2190
wrote:
i heard creatine is really
bad for you
its not if you take it correctly and
responsibly.
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miller2190
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Location: GA
Posted: 08-04-04 22:38pm
I see, and bogjonny, ive never taken any
kind of energy or protien/ muscle building
vitamens and suppliments, and im huge!
You dont need that stuff.
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-04-04 22:45pm
eric16
wrote:
you shouldnt need creatine
if you have a good workout and are lifting
weights properly to gain muscle mass.
What is your workout? How many sets/reps
do you do? If you need help with a
workout I know good ones for building
muscle mass.
again read bigjhonny
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miller2190
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Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Location: GA
Posted: 08-04-04 23:06pm
Hey eric, if I want to get stronger, is it
better to life more reps with less weight,
or less reps with more weight?
Or is it good to build gradually? This is
what my workout was like:
i usually did 10 reps of 135, 6 or 7 of
145, 3 or 4 of 155, 1 or 2 of 165, then 1
of 175, and 1 of 185
weight wise, what would you say is the
best way to bench?
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eric16
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-04-04 23:38pm
miller2190
wrote:
hey eric, if I want to get
stronger, is it better to life more reps
with less weight, or less reps with more
weight?
Or is it good to build gradually? This
is what my workout was like:
i usually did 10 reps of 135, 6 or 7 of
145, 3 or 4 of 155, 1 or 2 of 165, then 1
of 175, and 1 of 185
weight wise, what would you say is the
best way to
bench?
ligt weight and a lot of reps will do
nothing. Go with low reps and heavy
weight to build muscle.
What you did was pyramid your weights.
Usually they are in 4 set. A pyramid is
where you lower your reps as you increase
your weight. A tipical pyramid is 4 sets
-12, 10 ,8. 6. As you go lower in reps
you up your weight. This is very
effective way to lift. Now in order to
gain the muscle you must use a pyramid
efffective. On your last set, which would
be 6 reps, make it so your last rep is to
faliure. Dont bother with light weight
and high reps, you will not see
improvment.
Pyramid-
12 reps- acts like a warm up. Should be
able to easily do this, but feel omething
10-reps- start to get into it. Could do
12 -14 reps if you felt like it
8 reps- you could do 9 or 10 if you pushed
yourself
6 reps- the last rep should be faliure
sounds like you need a good workout to.
In order to see any gains you need the big
3. This is squat, deadlift, and bench.
Without these in your workout you will not
see gains. Including those you need
isolation excersies such as the bicep curl
for example.
A good workout that I do is a 5 day split.
This is training one body part a day. My
split looks like this
monday-chest
tuesday-back
wednesday-off
thursday-legs
friday-arms
saturday-shoulders
sunday-off
now for big muscle groups such as chest,
back, legs you need 5-6 excersies for
each. For shoulders about 4-5. Arms
break down ito 3 bodyparts. You have the
tricep whichis the most important muscle
in the arm. Build your tricep to get a
big arm. Then there is the bicep and
forearm. You need about 3 excercises for
each of those.
If you need some excercies then go ahead
and ask. I will be glad to post something
what I did that was very effective.
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 08-14-04 14:24pm
Omg! I knew you would say that! It is
common knowledge that it is better for you
to lift low weight with a lot of reps!
High weight and low reps is no good!
Goodness eric please stop giving your
"advice" on this site. You are going to
have people out there hurting themselves.
My physical therapist and doctor both
told me this, so you can come back with
all of the arguments that you want eric,
but it won't work.
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-14-04 16:17pm
High reps and low weight doesnt build
strenght and muscle mass. It builds
muscle endurence, which in this case is
not what is wanted. Muscle endurence, I
think, is usless. I have lifted like this
and have seen amazing results as have many
others. Bodybuilders do this. Any
fitness trainer will tell you in order to
gain muscle mass and strenght you need to
lift big.
You wont hurt yourself if you are smart
about it and start of slow and easy until
you get used to it. I know exactly what I
am talking about. This is what I know
best. You have no points that argue that
your view is better, so that shows you
dont know but what your docter said. Your
docter said this because you would be new
to lifting, and he would want you to start
off light to learn the techniques
miller trust me on this. I am highly
experinenced in this and know what I am
saying. This is what I know best. Just
be sure you learn all the proper lifting
techniques and take it easy the first
couple weeks untill you get the feeling of
things. Dont just jump right into this
program. Easily up the weight and slowly
work your way in and you will be fine.
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 08-14-04 17:47pm
This is what my doctor told me because I
am new to lifting? I have been lifting
for over ten years! Whatever. Yeah, if
you want to be a no-neck with big muscles
that are absolutely useless and end up
with injuries from lifting too much, then
follow eric's advice. But if you want to
look good, have endurance and strength
(which is the whole point of lifting) then
trust the experts.
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eric16
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-14-04 18:02pm
You are providing nothing to back up your
theory. You have no idea what you are
talking about. You need to lift heavy and
make your muscles work in order to gain
strenght and muscle mass. His question
was to gain strenght. Well low weight
wont do that at all. It will build
endurence which will not give you
anything. Its a waste and will give your
muscles tone over the years at the most,
if anything.
You have no idea what you are saying.
Dont post information if it is false!
Lifting weight will not give you injuries.
If you read my earlier post I told miller
to start out slow and learn the proper
lifting techniques. If this is done and
he knows how to lift properly and fuel is
body with proper nutritions then this will
in no way cause injurious at all. It will
help with medical problems in the future
and help with a his body image.
My ideas and and programs work. This is
very effective and will not cause any
problems if you learn to lift properly,
start slow and learn to fuel your body
correctly. You will by no means injur
yourself if you follow my advice. It has
worked for many people including myself.
If you think I am trying to be mean I
really am not. I am sorry if I post my
information harshly so dont take it
personally. Its just what I do.
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 08-14-04 18:04pm
Don't tell me to not post information that
isn't correct! You are the one who is
posting incorrect information!
Lifting excessive weight will make you
big, yes. But that is it. I do know
what I am talking about, so don't insult
me. If he wants to be a worthless
no-neck then okay he can do it your way.
But if he wants to gain strength, look
good etc (as I stated before) then he
needs to lift lower weights with more
reps. Look it up!
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eric16
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-14-04 18:15pm
Sorry but you wont gain weight fiddiling
around with a pink dumbell curling it 100
times. In order to gain strenght and
muscle you need to lift heavy. This is
very effective and will get you stong and
look good. You wont be bulging with
muscles when you lift heavy. That all
depends on heredity, genetics etc...
Read my last statement in my previous
posts. Stop gettng defensive, its just my
way of posting.
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 08-14-04 18:24pm
I am not getting defensive, but you are
really starting to make me mad. I am not
going to keep repeating myself. However,
one more time for the kids, if he wants to
build strength, look good, etc, then he
needs to lift a decent weight with many
reps. Not five pounds with 100 reps, but
not 350 lbs with 2 reps. I am done, so
please stop freakin telling me I am wrong.
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eric16
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-14-04 18:30pm
If you read, then I said the lowest amount
of reps should be 6.How about instead of
just saying that low weight is the best,
explain why. All you have stated is that
low weight and lots of reps is best. You
have given no information to back this
theory up.
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 08-14-04 18:39pm
Because, lower weight and higher reps
builds strength and endurance. Plus it
gives you the "cut" look. High weight
and few reps (even six) just makes your
muscles big and bulky, but you really
aren't very strong at all. And when
people use this method (even though you
say to start slow etc.) they tend to
overdo it and hurt themselves.
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-14-04 18:48pm
High weight, if done correctly will not
injure you. It just creates bulkl? Sorry
but that is false as well. Many
professional bodybuilders and personal
trainers use this method and they are very
stong. Professional athletes lift like
this. Your largness of muscles is based
the person and heridity etc..
It doesnt get you cut. What gets you cut,
is to bulk up and get muscle, then diet
the fat that was gained during this.
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 08-14-04 18:52pm
Nuh uh. Light weight with many reps will
get you cut! I swear!
What is creatine?