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Does TMJ mean an asymmetrical face? (Page 1)

I'm just wondering... does everyone who has TMJ have an asymmetrical face or jaws?

I think i may have TMJ, there's a lot of popping on my jaw, no pain though.
But my lower jaw midline is deviated to the left. It seems that no one really notices, or maybe they're just sparing my feelings and not bringing it up.

Thanks in advance for any input you can give me.
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replied January 23rd, 2008
No. I've always had minor tmd and my face use to be extremely symmetrical. my friend also has tmj and her face is symmetrical as well. It depends on your case. For ex. now that I do have an asymmetrical face, my jaw joints move at different rates, and that explains the asymmetry in my case.
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replied January 23rd, 2008
As i wrote before, your case is very similar to mine and going to a tmj specialist is your best bet. I wish I would've done that! Good luck
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replied January 23rd, 2008
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Thank you very much. I will try to get to a tmj specialist first.
Just wondering... just how asymmetric did your face get after braces? And do you know why it happened? i read your other post about the arches, but i didn't quite understand what that is... excuse my ignorance on the subject, lol.
Did the braces make your jaw rest at a different point or something like that?
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replied December 2nd, 2013
Were extractions done for braces? My daughter had extractions done and her face became very crooked as well among other things. Her face became very flat, and grew long and very narrow because of her new smaller mouth. She is also very tired all of the time and dropped out of her sports because she was having trouble breathing. She is very sedentary and depressed now.
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replied January 23rd, 2008
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not every one with tmj has an asymmetic face. braces move the teeth and they rest in a different manner than before.
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replied January 24th, 2008
It got pretty bad. In the beginning of treatment my bite felt great. I got 3 premolars extracted and everything was going well but towards the halfway point he started putting elastics on my teeth to shift it around and I started noticing etreme assymetry to the point where one eye looked higher than the other my lips, nose looked crooked and the cheeckbones on one side of my face and nose went flat. Which is insane because i had prominant high nose and cheeckbones. one side of my face at an angle didn't look anything like the other.
The process of orthodontia is very gradual as well as the changes so i didnt realize just how drastic the physical changes were until recently when i stopped wearing my retainers and allowed my teeth to start relapsing my face did as well.

say U is my original arch, now one sides a U and the other a V and the midline on my gum of the upper jaw slants like /. Before relapse the line was really a zig zag so things have improved.
Orthodontics made things EXTREMELY bad in my case. It's bad now but it was 455554477 times worse before which is why I'm curious about how nmd would work in this instance.

believe it or not, this ortho is a very achieved, experienced ortho with a backround in tmj/orofacial pain and came highly recommended by MANY.
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replied January 24th, 2008
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Yes but they have to be trained to not only streaigthen the teeth--they must also work with the muscles.
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replied January 24th, 2008
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Wow. Your description kind of sounds like my face. One of my eyes looks a little higher than the other too, but they aren't. Apparently i always tilt my head a little to the left to compensate for what's wrong with me. It took me some analizing of pictures of me to realize what was crooked in my face. Turned out my nose and mouth are the things that are crooked. I didn't think teeth would affect how your nose looks... interesting to find that out. My nose looks different from the right than from the left. Maybe that's caused by the tmj as well?
Ugh... the more i find out about what treatment can do, the less i want to do something about my asymmetry. It sounds very risky.
Thank you so much for sharing your story with me.
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replied January 26th, 2008
no problem. how long have you had your noticible assymetry for and do you have an idea as to what may have triggered it? the side of my teeth that's the V shape is the side that's flat facially. As that side of my arch was pushed back so did that side of my face because of the supporting muscles. In that way I don't know if your case might be similar to mine. Going to an orthodontist whose main goal is to straighten teeth is superficial and may cause more damage but a tmj specialist looks for the root of your disharmony. Risky nonetheless but the safer bet.
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replied January 27th, 2008
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hear hear thenumber12
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replied January 28th, 2008
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I don't really know for sure when it all started. I have been analizing pictures of when i was a kid, and i looked pretty symmetrical. I think my asymmetry started at around 13 or so, it wasn't that noticeable though. When i really took notice was after braces. I didn't get full braces, back then what really bothered me was that my teeth were so crowded that one of my canines stuck out a lot. I got braces to get it down, and that's all that the braces did. I had them for 6 months only. My front two teeth still overlap a little, like they used to.
I remember my dentist telling me to close my mouth after taking the braces off, i closed it, and had to slide my jaw a little to the left so my teeth fit together.
After the braces (i was 20) i noticed i looked really crooked. I thought it had been the braces. But as i analized pictures of me before that, i found that i was already asymmetric, starting at around 13 or 14 and progressively more noticeable as the years have gone by.
What i do know is that people used to tell me i was cute way more often before the braces, my face did change a little bit.
I don't know what shape my arch is, but i have noticed that my molars are rotated inward (the upper right ones and the lower left ones), i don't know if that's got anything to do with it all.
In your case, was there any good reason to make your arch into a V shape? it sounds irresponsible on your dentist part, knowing as how it affected your face muscles and all.
I think that my dentist was irresponsible with me cause she didn't tell me anything was wrong with my bite... i was happy to get my canine down for a very inexpensive price though.
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replied June 7th, 2008
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Hey
My godfather has probably the most crooked jaw I know. He broke it doing training stuff in the Army a bunch of years ago, and never fixed it. I don't know what bone(s) he broke or how bad it was though. So while it is crooked, I honestly hardly notice it -- I don't focus on it, even though I know it's really crooked. So I'm gonna all people don't focus on anything potentially asymmetrical with other people.
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replied September 26th, 2013
It's true, no one really notices asymmetry in others. Everyone is asymmetrical! Even movie stars have uneven eyes, jaws, faces. It's just how people are.
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replied June 9th, 2008
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yeah its not the face that matters ---its the person
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replied June 10th, 2008
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Has anyone ever seen or perhaps you do yourself those people who seem to clench their jaws and their jaw muscles move? Brad Pitt does this a lot....
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replied June 10th, 2008
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yes and the purpose of this post is????
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replied July 2nd, 2008
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deviation
I also have deviation and I was told that there is slight assymetry with my jaw line and the nose - if you draw a straigh line down the middle of your nose you will see if there is deviation.
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replied July 3rd, 2008
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actually all you have to do is stand in front of the mirror and open---if you shift either left or right rather than going straight down you have a deviation---yet not necessarily assymetry
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replied January 13th, 2009
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have you tried a mouth guard to wear at nite?
i have one, it helps a great deal. i have no joint on my left side, so when i would wake up in the morning, my face would actually be crooked! how very painful!
also had arthrocentesis surgery a couple times, as my jaw was almost completely closed up.
hope you have a good dentist who specializes in TMJ.
take care,
Hayley Murphy
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replied January 13th, 2009
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i actually did... i wore it for about a month or two, and it deprogrammed my bite a little bit, i don't clench my teeth anymore, and i always rest my jaw at a point were my teeth don't meet properly, it's kind of uncomfortable cause i can't bite down, but it's a whole lot better position for my jaw. I look less asymmetrical and my jaw pops a whole lot less now.
I haven't gone to any more doctors, i went to a few, and none of them seems to have a clue about how to successfully fix what's wrong with my jaw.
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replied September 23rd, 2009
Im using this thread to ask if you can fix the changes of facial shape that has happened with TMJ. Because I have a right sided chin that looks recided because of TMJ and im only 17 years old.. I dont want to live my life like this, can you fix it?
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