hi I am new here, but wanted to see if
anyone has been told they have sludge in
their gallbladder. I have had horrible
indigestion for nearly 2 months and very
little I can eat. I basically eat rice
cakes, soda crackers, and some soup each
day. Seems anything else makes it much
worse, plus I am down 34 pounds since
Thanksgiving from not being able to eat
much.
At first the indigestion was so bad it was
shooting my bloodpressure way up, but that
has settled down, but still not a day goes
by that I don't have indigestion.
Thought I was feeling better a week or so
ago, so I had a scrambled egg for dinner,
that was a mistake, had a major
gallbladder attack that nite.
Everyday I have tenderness or some sort of
pain in the gallbladder area. And other
than running a mess of blood tests, the
only other test I have had is a ultrasound
and that is how they found this sludge.
I take Aciphex for the indigestion and
ativan and paxil for the anxiety and panic
attacks I have had from the beginning. At
first they thought that the anxiety was
just flooding my body with acid which was
causing this, not that I don't think this
has something to do with it.
At times I get so much indigestion in my
chest that I feel that I have asthma and
that makes me feel uncomfortable. Along
with the pains in the stomach area and
intestines.
Can sludge cause all this? Oh also I did
go on Ursodiol to try to clean the sludge
out, but after 5 days the Dr told me to
stop taking it, that it wasn't working.
Anyway tomorrow I have an appointment with
a surgeon to see what can be done here.
But honestly I have to say that reading
some of the posts here on the forum, I
find it kinda scary if these doctors know
what they are doing or not.
Any input would be greaty appreciated.
Thanks
Rhia
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eihcet
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Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 11 Location: ,
Posted: 01-21-08 17:20pm
Hi,
I haven't been diagnosed yet but I think I
have a diseased gallbladder and maybe some
sludge problems. I had an ultrasound
which showed no stones but have had some
other symptoms that otherwise point that
way as well as a family history.
Some 'natural' things that can help move
the gallbladder can be found by searching
(major sites) on 'gallbladder diet'. In
addition to foods to avoid, like EGGS, it
will show you what's good to eat.
Of the good foods, I've tried beets
(jarred w/out sugar added) ; milk thistle
; and olive oil (in place of other fats).
I'm not talking about doing a flush, I've
never tried that, but those same items are
often used for that. I'm just saying
along with my regular food I substituted
or ate those items at various times daily.
I also have been eating apples regularly.
For me, It definitely seemed to help me
get by some of the bad times, the beets
especially. If you have stones then
moving stuff around could make things
worse, but, with sludge if you can keep it
moving/thinned out, in theory it shouldn't
be too bad. That's what the GBDiet foods
are supposed to do.
For the indigestion you can also try DGL
Licorice pills (20mins before eating)
and/or whatever your doc prescribes. I
also tried Mastic Gum pills which
supposedly help restore the stomach lining
and seemed to make me feel better. The
stomach / indigestion problems took a few
weeks to get better, and taking pepcid AC
was at least helpful right away. The
other food / suppliments seemed to keep it
from coming back as bad as first but, I'm
still learning so who knows. I understand
eventually it will get worse anyway, but,
it's really a no win (when it' sout you
have to watch foods still) so doing what I
can to live healthy with it before it has
to go I guess.
Good luck!
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lillahorn
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Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 2
Me too... Posted: 01-25-08 02:18am
I had the same thing, last year around
this time..... After several months, and
only finding a "sludgey" gallbladder, they
opted to remove my gallbladder. I feel
much better than I did initially, but I
still don't feel myself. There are many
things I can eat again and several items I
stear clear of. The acid reducers they
prescribed me (I tried them all) never
worked well and in fact gave me many side
effects.
I would say good luck, but also that it
does get better.
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Sassykat1
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Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 35 Location: ,
Options? Posted: 01-29-08 21:17pm
Hey guys I have been suffering from
gallbladder pains, back pains, heartburn,
etc since November. A small polyp was
found in my gallbladder. When I first
researched polyps what I found was that
they weren't suppose to cause symptoms.
The doctors around here seem to only want
to do surgery, but I am terrified it will
just make me worse from all the forums I
have read of other peoples problems.
I am going to try some supplements to help
the gallbladder contract and thin out the
sludge. I ordered some, and am taking the
ones I already have. I just started
today. They are: Vit C, lecithin, fish
oil, taurine and IP6 rice bran. I am
waiting to get the last two.
Also, it is suppose to make the
gallbladder worse if you don't eat any
fat. It needs to be contracting.
Saturated fats are not a good choice
though. Also exercise is suppose to help,
so if I feel well enough I try and walk on
our treadmill for a bit. I am really
hoping this works because I don't want
chronic health problems for the rest of my
life. I am determined to fight this!
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eihcet
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Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Posts: 11 Location: ,
Posted: 01-30-08 11:02am
Let me know how the Fish Oil and Lecithin
works out for you. I've been tempted to
try them but haven't yet. Fish oil I read
is supposed to reduce inflamation (among
other benefits) and Lecithin is supposed
to help the cholesterol mix with the fat
in bile so its 'consistent' and easier to
pass, and therefore reduce the risk of
stones. I'n not sure either of them thin
out the mix but both should be good in any
case.
I've also read that having the GB out is
not always the cureall and you would still
have to watch your diet either way. So,
if you aren't experiencing pains then it
might be to your benefit to try some diet
alternatives before surgery. Of course,
the story goes that the GB only gets worse
over time, but, that time can be many
years for some people.
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Sassykat1
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 35 Location: ,
Posted: 01-30-08 14:14pm
Hi there eihcet! I am feeling better
today. I'm not in as much pain, but I
still have a lot of nausea.
Yesterday with every meal I took 2 caps of
lecithin, 1,000 mg of fish oil, 1000 mg
Vit C and 400 mg of magnesium. The
magnesium is suppose to help the muscles
relax and not spasm so much. I am also
eating apples. The malic acid in them is
suppose to help.
I had very severe symptoms last week and
ended up going to the emergency room.
They did blood tests and a cat scan to
make sure it wasn't my appendix.
I've got other symptoms as well which seem
to be a side effect of the gallbladder not
working properly such as dizziness and
shakyness, blurred vision, feeling weak, a
low fever, chills, cold hands and feet,
cold most of the time actually.
Today I don't feel cold however. I was
wondering if the Vit C had something to do
with helping that.. Maybe my inflammation
is going down. Could be the fish oil too,
like you said.
My docotor told me that I would not be
able to get better without surgery.
I happen to believe that it is possible to
reverse at least some gallbladder
diseases, if they are caught in time. I
have spent hours and hours looking up
every possible source I could find, just
so I can help myself. I am a 38 yr old
mom of 5 and that has motivated me quite a
bit. That and the fact that I hate being
sick and am not willing to accept the
risks of surgery/ loss of gallbladder when
it includes a risk for bowel cancer,
weight gain, chronic diarrhea etc.
I will only do the surgery if it becomes a
life/death situation. As long as my life
is not at risk, I will try and reverse my
gallbladder disease.
When I was first misdiagnosed, they told
me I had an ulcer and I tried the mastic
gum. It did seem to help my stomach. It
also seemed to help my dry nose.
But when the symptoms became worse, we
were able to pin point the pain on my
upper right abdomen, just under my ribs
and when the doctor examined me and "felt
my gallbladder" we were both sure that was
the culprit. Then, the ultrasound showed
2 small polyps, the larger one being 2mm
in size. Most doctors will say that
polyps do not cause symptoms. Another
person told me that it was the sludge in
my gallbladder causing it to not beable to
contract properly, resulting in spasms,
and all the rest of the symptoms. I seem
to have all of them. The only one I don't
really have is chest pain.
I was fine not that long ago. I was
trying to lose weight and went on a pretty
much no fat diet which for a few months.
I am highly suspicious this has
contributed to my problem.
I am hopeful this regimen will work for me
and if it does, it would be great if it
could help someone else to save their
gallbladder.
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msthec1
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Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 1
Gallbladder Sludge Posted: 02-06-08 11:01am
thats why i had to have my Gallbladder
removed it was packed with sludge it was
from antibiotic use everytime i used
antibiotics i used to have to run to the
bathroom all the time because
greenish-yellow bile would pour out of me
after about 6 month later i was in intense
pain went to the er and they told me it
was packed with sludge i know it was from
the antibiotic use now8 months later i
have a ton of right flank pain off and on
since it was removed but within the last
week it has been there everyday now also
with some back pain on that side to.
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Sassykat1
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Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 35 Location: ,
Posted: 02-06-08 13:59pm
Hi msthec1. I am sorry for the troubles
you've had with the gallbladder and pain.
It is very hard on a person, physically
and emotionally.
Do you think that if you tried some
supplements to help your liver it might
help you feel better?
I have read that people who have had the
surgery to have their gallbladders removed
should be taking bile salts or enzymes to
help digest fats and do liver cleanse and
herbs to support the liver.