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May 12th, 2004
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It's you that doesn't care about anyone but yourself, since you have had your chance to make choices but you want to deny that right to any other woman, well, you don't care what someone feels like or whart their lives are like, and that is the only think that is important, not if you feel guilty about your abortion.
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replied May 12th, 2004
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Yes I do but we are not going to solve social problems by killing children
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replied May 12th, 2004
Experienced User
You aren't going to solve any problems at all by banning abortions. You are just going to create more problems for women, for children and for families.
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replied May 12th, 2004
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a Message to Janet From Mr Drivelbottom
Janet, you say that you arent going to solve problems by banning abortions - a.K.A the homicide procedure. However what you would be doing by banning it is saving many childrens lives. Which as far as I am concerned is more important than any problem.

Cool mr drivelbottom has enlightned you Cool
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replied May 12th, 2004
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You would have more children being born into misery. You would have more miserable families, who can't cope with another healthy child, never mind one that is handicapped, you would have more women dying from illegal abortions, you would have more teenage girls having their lives ruined and their families torn apart. It's only because they now have the choice of having an abortion that young single mothers aren't condemned any more. The only thing that banning abortions would do is make life for women like under the taliban like someone pointed out already.
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replied May 12th, 2004
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a Message to Janet - Abortion Is Always Wrong
Janet you are wrong, so very very wrong. There can be no justification in killing a child whether it is still in the mother or not. A child is a child no matter where it is and must be treat with the same kind of respect that any other person is treat with. Just because it is still being developed, that doesnt make it any less a human being you know. After all a child can start to feel pain just seven or eight weeks after conception and to think that the mother can have the baby scraped out of the womb as late as 24 weeks (here in the uk) into the pregnancy is horrifying. Just imagine the pain and agony that poor child must go through prior to it's untimely and unnecessary death. It is a very sick procedure and should be banned immediately.
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replied May 12th, 2004
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Only a tiny proportion of abortions take place after 20 weeks, and then it is almost always due to serious abnormality or a problem for the mother's health. The argument about feeling pain is irrelevant to an abortion, there are all sort of things that cause pain that we do. There is no consciousness, even if it feels pain physically it is not in any way aware of it -- but I for one don't think that causing humans pain is worse than causing animals pain anyway.
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replied May 13th, 2004
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I didnt say that causing a human pain was any different to causing an animal pain. Pain is pain and it should all be stopped now it all of its forms. It can not be justified any way whatsoever. I realise that some babies are conceived in ways that the mother wouldnt necessarily like, but it is not the childs fault how it is conceived. However I realise that you have your opinions and nothing that I say will change those.
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replied May 13th, 2004
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Dribble bum,

according to you all pain is pain & it should all be stopped now in all itsa forms Idea so you have just served as judge, jury & executioner to yourself - as you are causing us pian in many forms so you should end that now - so go & end that pain by ending yourself.

Further I will repeat what I have said elsewhere - until you (personally!!) actually become pregnant, discover that carrying the baby will almost certainly cause your death, or that the baby will be a vegetable &/or that your family will disown you if you have it (in your case ii realize that your family have already done this) or that the pregnancy was a result of a violent rape - you have no right to have much less have the gaul to express an opinion on a topic about which you will never have any real practical knowledge.
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replied May 14th, 2004
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"you aren't going to solve any problems at all by banning abortions."

yes but as abortion is offered as a solution - it is obviously not working, therefore we need to realise that children have a right to live! Once we acknowledge abortion is not working but actually increasing the problems and ban abortion we can address the problems in a different aproach

abortion is not working
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replied May 14th, 2004
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a Message to Purple
I was trying to have a serious debate regarding abortion, and you come along and lower the tone by referring to me as dribble bum. How very mature.
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replied May 14th, 2004
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Samie, you are wrong about that. I only know of two people who have had abortions, and both of them know it was the right thing to do. Another one decided not to have an abortion, having considered it seriously, and only didn't because she knew it was probably her last chance to have a child at all, since she was about 42. The reasons that people have for having abortions are not going to go about by banning them.
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replied May 14th, 2004
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I dont think you have thought it through!
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replied May 14th, 2004
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Why do you say that?
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replied May 14th, 2004
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Why do you say that?
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replied May 14th, 2004
Active User, very eHealthy
Have you looked at underage pregnancies, suicide, child abuse and a whole other host of social issues since abortion became legal?
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replied May 14th, 2004
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Oh...Making abortion legal is responsible for all of society's ills then? Including 9/11 from what I remember!!
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replied May 14th, 2004
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A lot of societys problems have not been helpped by abortion

whats wrong with 9/11 its was only bin ladens choice
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replied May 14th, 2004
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The vocabulary of terror:
anti-abortion politics post-9/11

shortly after september 11th, televangelist jerry falwell accused "abortionists" and others of being responsible for the terrorist attacks:

"the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because god will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make god mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the aclu, people for the american way, all of them who have tried to secularize america. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'"
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replied May 14th, 2004
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Thats a religious statement! Come on do you believe that?

What was wrong with 9/11 it was bin laddens choice
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