Compression fracture of L-1 Posted: 01-15-08 10:46am
You all know I have two herniated buldging
dic's at L-2,3. Remember, I told everyone
that I had fallen off a step ladder pretty
hard. I have been in some really bad pain
since. This week not so bad. Well, to make
sure I did not damage it anymore, my neuro
wanted another X-Raty . Well I just got
the results. Fractured L-1 with
compression to L-2. He now wants another
MRI ASAP (in process). Just now depressed
and anxeious to see when he sends me to
ortho, if it' gonna be surgery or a back
brace. Needless to say, today I am pretty
down in the dumps. Can this get any
worse?
Carrie
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RichT
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Posted: 01-15-08 12:17pm
Hello Carrie,
Ouch that HURTS!!!! So sorry. Thank
goodness you were so very wise and went to
your doctor. BRAVO!!!! I'm so glad you
did.
Carrie, I can understand your "down"
feeling right now. Try to take a deep
breath and relax and communicate with the
good Lord. That will help to take some of
the burden off of your shoulder. To just
let God walk with you on life's path.
RichT
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 01-15-08 15:05pm
Thanks for the reply Rich. As I really
don'nt get many replies to any of my posts
anyway. Makes a gal really feel some
support ya know. This thread could go on
with just me talking with you or to
mayself. Does anyone not realise that I
too may need some uplifting or adivice
once in a while. I see "the girl_friends
post was jumped all over. I think I will
just stay in the background and moderate
from now on. No one seems to really care
around here how I fell. And yes, I do take
it personally.
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RichT
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Posted: 01-15-08 15:43pm
Hello Carrie,
I know you are down now and hurting. Let
all the frustration out. Its okay.
Yes, you want your friends around you NOW.
Understandable. Try to be patient, your
first post was about 3 hours ago. Most
likely this evening more will be here to
give you hugs. I know I'll be here. You
can count on it.
HUGS
RichT
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 01-15-08 15:53pm
Rich, this is NOT the first post I have
made about myself that recieved 0-2
replies. I though this was a board whee
all were supposed to be compansionate to
others. I have made posts in other topics
and the same thing has happened. It
happens all the time!
27 views on this one!
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Linndie
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Friend Posted: 01-15-08 17:19pm
Dear Carrie,
I am so sorry about your back pain, it
I know one thing. people here lean on your
widsom, and it seems they are selfish
because caregivers need support too.
I can see you are very ,very respected
here, and people see you as a leader, and
they do not slight you on purpose, you are
loved, respected and loved by many.
You are alwAys IN
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Linndie
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carrie Posted: 01-15-08 17:22pm
how the heck did i hit enter,
you are always in my thought and
prayers. You have more than you deserve of
health problems.
Carrie I truly love you like a sister,
What can i do for you friend? anything you
need or want please call me. Love
Linndie
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 01-15-08 18:08pm
Thank-you Linndie for you such kind words.
As you can already tell, I've again gone
into one of my manic modes and best if I
stay away from the phone for a day or so
and even giving advice since I am so
underserving of it myself. I have it on
answer and it will stay that way for few
days untill I can grasp what is in store
for me. A broken back was not supposed to
be part of the plan. Remember the old
"Jewit" brace. That is what I am afraid is
going to be ordered for me. I will never
be able to bend at my back again. Straight
all the time even in bed. Like a spin
cast. Yes, I am very deppressed right now
and sure could use some soothing words for
others on this board. Maybe someone it has
happened to and tell me what my future (if
I have on) might be. That's all I'm asking
for. Too much to ask for I guess.
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Marie B.
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Hello Carrie Posted: 01-15-08 18:16pm
Carrie, I usually post under Back
Pain/Laser Surgery.
There are a lot of posters there who can
really give you support in regards to your
spine problem.
To find yourself in the condition of what
you described as your diagnosis after an
MRI is shocking for most people. There is
nothing more mentally frightening and
physically painful as to find yourself
with a spine problem.
And to find yourself in that kind of a
position all because of a fall, makes it
even worse. The fact that you were on a
ladder feeling fine and probably doing a
job there is nothing so unexpected as to
find yourself injured and in a major way.
And now you are finding no one responding
to support you during this trial. Don't
give up.
I hope you accept an invitation to go to
the Laser Surgery thread if you are not
getting the responses that you had hoped
for under Compression Fracture. There are
people who have found themselves in a
similar position....an unexpected spine
problem. If you are finding no one is
responding on the thread that you started,
look for help and comfort on another
thread. Believe me when I say you will
certainly find it there. A lot of people
will walk with you through every
appointment, every test and if you find
yourself facing surgery, you will find all
of the advice and sharing of pain and
relief stories from the surgery experience
right through the post-op help.
For the moment you do not know what
direction your doctor is going to lead
you, but I do hope he has provided you
some Rx for the pain that I know you must
be in.
Good Luck and I know many people will pray
for your well being. Talk to us with as
many details as you wish to share about
your condition and what your doctor is
saying to you. We will do our best to try
to help you through this traumatic time in
your life.
God Bless.
Marie B.
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 01-15-08 18:24pm
Thanks Marie B. I will head over ther
tomorrow. I am so tired from being
depressed, I going to try and eat somthing
and go to bed. I know I sound negitive
right now, which is not like me. The the
news I got this morning did me in good. I
went into complete depression and tonight
I notice the pain at the L-1 point is
getting a little worse. I have been taken
may drug medications and well take my two
more at bed time. This is just in a place
where it never hurt before my fall. Just
hurniated bulged L-2,3 were excruciating
at times.
Carrie
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Marie B.
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Tampa Bay Area Posted: 01-15-08 18:54pm
Carrie, There are many people in Florida
who have had spinal problems. We have a
poster who lives in Tampa who really went
through some tough times wih her spine.
She posts as Carrianne.
Can I ask you what drugs you are taking?
Also are you doing anything like putting
mild cold or warm moist heat on your back
while you are dealing with the pain?
Prior to my surgery for a year and a half
I would go from cold to heat depending on
how my back was responding.
I hope you have family around because
depression can be as painful as the spine
problem itself. The old addage of misery
loves company is so true.
I hope with time your buldging discs will
calm down and give you some relief. Since
I am not a doctor, I don't know how bad
the compression fracture you have
experienced is. There are many approaches
and you will not want to take the first
doctor's opinion as "gospel".
Again, Good Luck!
Marie B.
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Linndie
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my friend Posted: 01-15-08 18:57pm
Dear Carrie,
I understand about you not wanting to
chat on the phone sweetie. I need to tell
you something Carrie, all our deep phone
calls about life, the goverment ect, you
may not know this, but you have helped me
so many times, I never told you when I was
in a high anixety mode/mood. Just you
listening to me, and talking have helped
me so much. Here you are Carrie handed
yet another brick in your already full
load you must carry. I'm here for you and
i will help you. Remember i am a phone
call away, and a cell phone call away. I
will private msg my cell number. People
do care about you, we will all be here for
you. You are a mentor for many. Love
Linndie
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RichT
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Posted: 01-15-08 23:35pm
Hello Carrie,
I hope you are resting well.
You have reeceived heartfelt thoughts
feelings and advice from Linndie and
Marie.
Today has been a most difficult day for
you I know. I hope that you will be able
to see your doctor tomorrow and that his
analysis of your situation is not as bad
as you fear.
I like Marie, invite you to the LSS
thread. There you will find support and
carring. It is a thread of very special
people. A very special family of spineys.
My thoughts and prayers have been with you
throughout the day and this evening, and
will be with you in the days ahead.
Hang onto God's hand for He will never let
go.
RichT
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 01-16-08 01:15am
Rich, the compression and brake showed up
on my regualar lumbar X-Ray that I had
done on Monday ll/14. I am do for a
follow-up MRI on this Thursday morning. It
will show alot more and how big the break
really is and how compressed L-1 is to L-2
now. Before my fall L-1 was not even
injured. There are only 5 L vertabre and I
have three out of five useless now. There
are 12 Throaic and 5 cervical and three (I
think) sacrul. I also have scoliosis of
the thoracic spine. Wonderful right? And I
also got into a very bad car accident back
in 85 (rear ended at a stop light with the
woman hitting me at a speed of 45mph, that
casuse a small compression fracture in my
neck at C-3 ( I believe it was). Was in a
neck brace for quite awhile. I will never
forget the pain. I had to roll out of bed.
Now, I am having flashbacks.
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RichT
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Posted: 01-16-08 08:35am
Good Morning Carrie,
Thanks for the additional information that
you have shared with us. I am somewhat
puzzled. For some reason I thought your
fall off of the ladder was just a few days
ago. Do I understand correctly that it
was before November 14th? If the
compression and break showed up in the
ll/14 X-rays, why wasn't an MRI taken at
that time? Why didn't your surgeon
address the problem at that time? I
really am confused. Carrie, I just
realized that this past Monday was 1/14.
Perhaps (hopefuly) the "11" was a typo?
Carrie, could you clarify these things for
me? Thanks. And if you mentioned the
compression and break earlier, my apology
for not remembering.
I can understand having flashbacks from
what you went through because of being
rear ended by that lady. Just think of
the flashbacks that many soldiers who have
been in the Iraq war and other wars have.
It is so sad.
Please do let us know how your MRI goes,
and after your doctor has had time to
review the MRIs and talked with you.
RichT
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Carrianne
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Posted: 01-16-08 11:11am
Hi Carrie,
My name is Carrianne and I post on the
laser surgery thread. I'm so sorry for how
you're feeling, physically and
emotionally. I never understood what it
was like to feel depressed until my back
problems developed about 2 1/2 - 3 years
ago. The ONLY thing I have learned is to
do everything in my power to focus on the
many things God has blessed me with. Often
easier said than done, but nonetheless,
very important.
Please know that we are all here for you.
Though I have different complications with
my spine than you, the one fact remains.
We are all in pain and must support
eachother through this! I, along with
Marie and Rich, invite you into our little
family on the laser thread.
Best wishes to you and God bless,
Carrianne
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 01-16-08 20:57pm
Hi Carrianne, nice to meet you and yes I
am already over there. Thanks for the
heads up too.
Linndie I go for my MRI in
the morning and I will let you know
personally when the results are in. I will
call you. My back is again now starting to
bother me when I sit a the computer to
long. I think it is starting to feel like
my remission from pain down to just a bad
ache is over. As I said on the
other thread, I just hope it is not to
bad. I willl be calling you my dear
friend, have no fear. You are always in my
heart and on my mind. I hope you are doing
alright yourself. And do'nt over do it
girl. How do you like this weather? I'm
having a little bout with my asthma this
week too. I think it is the weather.
Well be hearing from me soon, gotta go
back and lay down. Back is starting to
bite a bit.
Love ya sis,
Carrie
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RichT
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Posted: 01-17-08 12:47pm
Hello Carrie,
I've been thinking about you today. Hope
the MRI went well. When time is right for
you we will look forward to your doctor's
thoughts and advice.
Take care. MANY HUGS!!!
RichT
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Linndie
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Carrie, Posted: 01-17-08 16:07pm
Hi Carrie,
how did the MIR go? Been waiting all
day, kinda feel like someone is having a
baby, that kinda wait. Hope and pray all
went well.
(((((((((Huggles))))))))))
Linndie
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Hi Linndie and the gang Posted: 01-22-08 20:02pm
Was just getting ready to post the news.
Did not get the results till this morning
1/22/08. Been in bed most of the day and
when not there just going through periods
of crying. Was sobbing at the office so
bad, I think the whole place heard me.
I will not be able to post much for awhile
now gang. I can't sit for long periods of
time. But, I will try and be on line every
so often.
The results showed that 50% of L-1 is
fractured and now also T-12 is compressed
also. Yes, I have to have surgery and have
to go to Tampa to have it done. From what
I hear I have a couple options when I see
the neuro surgeon. My neuro has to fax all
my records to tampa and then the review
them and call me for an appointment.
But..........I have MRSA, and my
infectious disease doctor told me that any
time I have elective surgery that is not
life or death and can wait, I have to take
somekind of antibiotic for a month to
prepare and scrub down with hebiclens
every day for that month. So the super bug
does not get into the surgical area from
my skin or any thing even though it is not
on my skin. I have to call him as soon as
the neuro surgery office calls me for an
appointment and sets up a surgical date.
My first option is where the inject
someking of spongy material into the
break. Second would be a complete disc
fusion. I think there was a third, though
not sure.
I am very depressed and scared right now
to say the least. So keep those prayers
coming OK. I have stepped down as
Moderator and will remain as Supporter and
try and be on line every so often if I
can. But, the pain has come back (about
three days ago or so) and doc has up'd my
narc's pretty high. So, there goes my
vision again. Grrrr. After feeling so much
better with just one Oxycotin and a couple
of breakthrough, he now up's me to three
Oxycotin twice a day and 3 (30mg) three
times a day for breakthough pain. Walking
zombie I will expect to be. Hope I never
need to take that much.
So far I can get away with two time
release Oxycotin and maybe one dose of
breakthough early morning after sleeping
for a bit.
I will miss you all so very much. I don't
know how long recovery time is for this.
Rich T would maybe know or someone else
that has had fusion done.
I sure was not ready to hear that 50%
fracture at all. Hit me like a brick wall
at 200mph.
Linndie, I will call you tomorrow. Other
then family, I put my phone on "ignore"
today. I think I am better in control now
and have accepted the what has to be done.
I know I will still go through periods of
crying and that is normal. Fear of the
unknown is the worst for anyone.