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Peter91

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Bipolar diagnosed girlfriend
Posted: 01-10-08 14:36pm

so, I looked through that "Symptoms of Bipolar" topic here, and got the following results:


"What Are the Symptoms of Bipolar Disorder?

Bipolar disorder causes dramatic mood swings from overly high and/or irritable to sad and hopeless, and then back again, often with periods of normal mood in between. Severe changes in energy and behavior go along with these changes in mood. The periods of highs and lows are called episodes of mania and depression.
Signs and symptoms of mania (or a manic episode) include:

* Increased energy, activity, and restlessness
* Excessively high, overly good, euphoric mood
* Extreme irritability
* Racing thoughts and talking very fast, jumping from one idea to another
* Distractibility, can't concentrate well
* Little sleep needed
* Unrealistic beliefs in ones abilities and powers
* Poor judgment
* Spending sprees
* A lasting period of behavior that is different from usual
* Increased sexual drive
* Abuse of drugs, particularly cocaine, alcohol, and sleeping medications
* Provocative, intrusive, or aggressive behavior
* Denial that anything is wrong





-increased energy, activity, and restlessness
-excessively high, overly good mood (atleast she used to. I havn't seen that side of her since we broke up, though)
-distractibility/can't concentrate well.
-little sleep neeeded
-unrealistic beliefs in ones abilities and powers
-POOR JUDGEMENT
-increased sex drive
-provocative, intrusive, or AGGRESIVE BEHAVIOR(!)
-DENIAL THAT ANYTHING IS WRONG........ or that it's her fault at all, is how she sees it. It's completely my fault, and I am nothing but an ignorant problem who does nothing but make her life terrible. It's scaring me to say that, but I think that that is about how she sees me at the present time. She dismisses my explanations for why I did something that made her flip out at me as "petty, childish and inconsiderate".


she's mad that I told one of our mutual friends the details about our breakup before she told anybody. Apparently she hasn't even told most of her friends we've broken up, and it's been a good few weeks now since we did. She says "he's MY friend!" and so forth and "where do you get off talking to MY friends about that" and such, even though it wasn't a plural "friends", it was just the one...

We broke up, after dating for 11 months, basically because I couldn't deal with her problems efficiently, and neither of us were happy. Usually, I'm great at figuring things like this out, and I'm probably the most stable person there is, I don't fluctuate moods at all. I have them, of course. I'm a very, very, very sensitive person. But ever since she was diagnosed with Bipolar, things havn't been the same.

I don't know how to talk to her without making her freak out at me. Currently, after we've broken up (on our 11 month anniversary, too (Yes, in highschool you celebrate "months" Wink )! On one hand, she forgot it was our anniversary when she broke up with me, but on the other, she forgot our anniversary in the first place, so I don't know how to feel about that one! Rolling Eyes Laughing ), she won't even talk to me.

Since we've broken up, she's gotten mad at me! I never would have thought that to happen, especially since when we actually broke up she was apologising and crying and saying "thank you" for being so supportive and everything. But when I went to her house to drop off clothes and things from my house that she'd left, she freaked out at me because I didn't call ahead. She also, like I said above, got VERY mad, to the point where she won't talk to me now, when I was talking to our mutual gay friend who she seems to think I hardly know about this all.

February 1st would have been our one year anniversary. I want to get her back on that day, if I can settle her down and gain her trust again before then, that is. I think it would be very symbolic and beautiful to do it then. I have a whole idea going in my head about how I'm going to recreate exactly what it was like the day I first asked her "if we were dating" (long story! Laughing ), so hopefully that might get through to her that I really care and such.

But... How do I do it?

How do I do all of this? What do I do to get her to A) talk to me again, first of all! B) trust me again, and how do I go about talking to her in the future? I'm a VERY painfully honest person, so I've always struggled with trying to "talk" to people differently than how I feel I should, you know? What I feel I should hasn't worked the last few months, and that is why we broke up! I am willing to do this to get her back.

If I can't date her, I atleast want to be her friend again. She has lots of other problems from her childhood as well, but I've always been able to handle those. This Bipolarness is what has ripped us apart. She gets angry at EVERYTHING! I don't know how to handle this all! I want to be there for her, but she still goes crazy. She claims she "isn't mad" or "wasn't mad" or something similar, but that's totally untrue. Or if it is, I would be scared for my life to see her "mad"! Shocked

She was going to the hospital a while ago and I promised I'd go and wait in the lobby for her (it was a loonnnng session, too!). Sadly, I got very ill around that time. I was spitting out blood and yellow stuff (which I found out means "infection")m and my mother forbid me from going to the hospital that day. I phoned her mother, who works at a clinic, and she also told me that I really shouldn't go. Because of all the people with the weakened imune systems and such. Needless to say, she got mad at me over this and started calling me unreliable and all this, even though I was still going to go, against my own mother's wishes, until her mum told me to stay home. I tried, and I always try for her, but nothing is ever good enough. What do I do?

I know that all of this is a lot to deal with, and that I have probably dozens of questions thrown around in this long post, but I really need help. I rarely do need advice, I'm usually the one to give it, actually, but I am not scared to ask when I need help.

Peace and Love,
-Peter.

And thank you all for your support (once I get some, that is Wink )! I honestly can not do this without you. Thank you all.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I just thought of something, too. Perhaps a smart way of answering me would be to quote directly what I said, so that I know exactly to which part of my post you are referring to. Thanks! Wink
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puzzld

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Posted: 01-10-08 16:26pm

1. DENIAL THAT ANYTHING IS WRONG
this is the first battle, the front line, and one that you can't win without her. i was in denial until about 4 months ago. i'm 33 and have been told my entire adult life that i am BP. it got to the point where i could not fake it anymore. i slipped into a terrible state where i had to make a choice to live or die. i chose to live with the help of medicine, which i must take if i want to have a life.

on the flip side, my 40 year old brother is BP and won't admit or take meds. he lives with my dad and invents all day and night. he's a genius. and he's been doing this since he was in grammar school.

i'm not saying that these are the only outcomes to her experience.

2. She dismisses my explanations for why I did something that made her flip out at me as "petty, childish and inconsiderate".
people suffering from bp illness who are not medicated are extremely taxed in every way possible. it effects every part of your life. it's obvious that you want to take care of her and help her... this is good. but, if she sees no problem with herself then in her mind, quite possibly, the problem is you and/or everyone else breathing. this is normal bp behavior. because she is sick and won't realize it doesn't mean that she's not suffering greatly.

apply my explanations to a good part of your post.

it's not personal. she just isn't dealing with it correctly. i know you want to get back with her and that is wonderful to hear because not many people can handle living with someone suffering from bp. so, often they feel like a burden and that nobody could possibly love them. maybe she feels this way, dunno. i did for a while. just don't push her on the feb 1st thing, or yourself.

i'm only responding to her denial because healing begins with recognition of the illness. then seeking treatment and sticking with it. remember, only she can fix this. my husband was/is very supportive of me and my mood disorder. he listens and doesn't try to fix me. the reason we don't like to hear our loved one's try to fix us is because it reinforces, in our minds, that our loved one's are not happy with us as we are. illness and all.

i hope she gets help. and i'm so sorry for your heartache.
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Peter91

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Posted: 01-10-08 17:07pm

Thank you so much for your reply! It actually feels like it's helping me already! Very
Happy

She WAS on medication, and then when they found out about the bp, she was put on medication after medication trying to find the right combination, and that took a toll on her. It really messed with her, and that explained some of the behavior a few months ago, I think.

She keeps saying "you blew it" and stuff now, though (aka the two or three times I talked to her today around school at times), and so I can't exactly approach her that easily right now. I kept trying to talk to her, and I even explained about why I was talking to her friend about us and everything, but she dismissed everything I said and wouldn't even think about accepting that I wasn't just being stupid or something.

I'm the sort of guy that does things for a reason. All important things, and most non-important things all have their place in where I deal with them. I do a lot of these things spontaneously, but if I don't like something about something than I will not do it. I really am calm all the time, and never actually get mad or anything. I never fake things, either, so I suppose that just shows that I am not just lieing to myself and telling people on the outside that I'm fine when I'm not, you know? Several people asked me how I was doing today and I replied, "Shitty."

So basically what I'm trying to say is that I'm always honest and try to speak my mind when I can. And I have a pretty long history of doing this, now, so for her to think that A) I was INTENTIONALLY trying to be mean to her, or B) I was mad and trying to get revenge by posting about us in a public place like Facebook, it's silly.

What I really wish she could acknowledge is that I never, EVER have ever even come close to wanting to intentionally hurt her. Even when we were in her car and she flipped out, did a Dukes Of Hazzard-style 180 U-turn in the middle of the road and started speeding the other way. I may have felt a little in danger, but I just tried to settle her down.

Also, whenever she was mad or depressed at my house I would never let her leave (and drive home) until she had settled down. She has thought about suicide before and cut her wrists with little scissors before, so I never wanted her to be mad or sad enough to actually go through with crashing her car and trying to kill herself, like she had said many times during a low spot.

So, going back to before I started talking more about us, how do I get her to talk/like me again? I mean, the "you blew it"'s are pretty ugly, you know? She is VERY serious this time. She told me to get out of her life and that I was "snipped' and that I lost the chance to be her friend again (she has no intentions of getting back together romantically, but I'm hoping that I will be able to get her back. If not, then I will still want to be her friend, which is fine with me, too. I'd RATHER be dating her, but I care enough for her that just being friends would be worth all this, too. I just hope that I can figure something out...)

Peace and Love,
-Peter
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Peter91

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Posted: 01-10-08 21:08pm

What if I contacted her parents (probably her mother) and talked to them to see what they think?

They DID always like me, but I havn't talked to them since the night I dropped her things off at her house. They said that they miss me and even said "maybe she'll come to her senses" and thanked me for putting up with her.

I am still hesitent to phone her mum to talk. What if she now thinks I've overstayed my welcome or she is just fed up with how my ex girlfriend thinks of me and all that...? She obviously loves her daughter wayyyyy more than me, that goes without saying, so what if she is on her side now? What if she doesn't want to talk to me? I don't want to phone her mum, have her find out, and then FLIP out at me for phoning her parents, you know? I can see it happening now...

Very risky, and I'm not even sure what I'd want to talk to her mum about just yet! The last thing I want to do is awkward her mum out by phoning and asking her about her daughter, you know?

That night when I dropped her stuff off, I asked how she was doing and her mum said "Oh, she's doing just fine", in a sort of "she doesn't need you anymore" sort of tone. That's why I feel so hesitant, I think!

Peace and Love and probably lots more questions to come! Laughing
-Peter
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Posted: 01-11-08 07:16am

Understanding, support and TLC. And space when she needs it.
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Peter91

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Posted: 01-11-08 20:53pm

puzzld wrote:

it's not personal. she just isn't dealing with it correctly. i know you want to get back with her and that is wonderful to hear because not many people can handle living with someone suffering from bp. so, often they feel like a burden and that nobody could possibly love them. maybe she feels this way, dunno. i did for a while. just don't push her on the feb 1st thing, or yourself.

i'm only responding to her denial because healing begins with recognition of the illness. then seeking treatment and sticking with it. remember, only she can fix this. my husband was/is very supportive of me and my mood disorder. he listens and doesn't try to fix me. the reason we don't like to hear our loved one's try to fix us is because it reinforces, in our minds, that our loved one's are not happy with us as we are. illness and all.

i hope she gets help. and i'm so sorry for your heartache.



i hope she gets help. and i'm so sorry for your heartache.[/quote]

You say "she's just isn't dealing with it correctly".

I'd like to know HOW to deal with it correctly, you know? What can I do te help her? And what can she do to help herself?

And it sure feels personal to me...
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Peter91

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Posted: 01-13-08 23:29pm

Thank you very much!

Although not exactly a "Christian", per se, I always appreciate it when people pray for me! What harm can it do, right? Very
Happy

Peace and Love,
-Peter

PS- As an update: Things are the same, if not much, much worse currently. She's still as mad as ever and things are not looking good for my "anniversary" plan. I just don't see it coming together in that short amount of time! I'm still going to not give up, though! Very
Happy
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tyler02

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how much do you care?she may need time to work her feelings out
Posted: 01-16-08 11:48am

BE HER FRIEND ,SHE NEEDS THAT ,
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Wozzie

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Posted: 01-26-08 09:56am

What a beautiful, caring and sensitive young man you are and how lovely you are thinking of romantic ways to get back together.

In spite of her condition, however, I am sorry she chooses to place all the responsibility on you: "You blew it!"

The greatest aid in life is when we start looking at the role we played in the situation - and we had to - we're always there, right? And yet, if she is unable to do this because of her condition, it might not be possible for her.

I was wondering if it would help for you to speak to her mother. Be as honest as you clearly are (I LOVE my boyfriend for his honesty as it encourages me and helps me feel safe to do the same - and yes, we also celebrate monthly anniversaries) and say that you don't know what her daughter's told her about you; that she might think it's over for good - but to please let her know in any moments where she needs someone that you will always be there for her - be it as friend or lover.

All the best to you. It sounds like a genuine struggle.
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