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Q: medication or disorder ?
asked by: Damnit on January 9th, 2008
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When something goes wrong in my life, I blame the medicine.
He blames my disorder.

So which is it? I'm willing to admit that it's a mixture of both but JESUS- He's the one sending chemicals STRAIGHT to my brain and he's been trying to tell me that it's my disorder??? wouldn't you think that it's the medication?

It seems to me, that's like saying Yeah she shoots dope but it's not the dope, it's her.
like you've giving someone chemicals
straight to the brain
and you're trying to make them believe
that it's THEM that's wrong,
not the meds...

anyone have any opinions on that?
thanks.
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Birch
replied on January 9th, 2008
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Respectfully, without knowing what goes wrong with your life, I think you are both wrong.

Does the medicine make the choices for you?

Does the disorder?

What does?

I don't think the focus should be even on blaming one or the other; but finding a balance of medication that helps you live your life with minimal "wrongs".
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Damnit
replied on January 9th, 2008
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Thanks for replying,
Yeah.... definantly easier said than done... as most things are.
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ma3n0ia
replied on January 12th, 2008
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Impulse control and poor decision making are symptoms of bipolar disorder.

Medication is strong enough to positively alter your personality and choices so obviously strong enough to chemically alter them too.
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izzy62
replied on January 31st, 2008
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Well, i have a similar problem
It is so difficult to say. I am Chilean, and I have always thought that because latin american doctors are more stupid than the rest blame my bipolar disorder of everything. We have to recognize that in a state of depression or mania our perceptions, attitudes and behaviour can alter. But then there is the possibility that other factors can affect us. In my case, for example, menopausia is a topic. As I am in a public hospital since due to a special program gives me Lamictal-which is so expensive- I have a young an unexperienced doctor. She has never recorded the information of my hormonal tests and she has never taken into account that because of my work schedule I was not able to sleep more hours for a semestre (i finished late at night and started very early in the morning, something that is not at all good buy I needed the money) Of course the schedule DID affected my sleeping cycle and also my mood, but not the other way. The solution was to change my job and not to take medicines because the cause was not the bipolar disorder.
Young and/or narrow minded doctors are not capable of seeing beyond their eyes. Many of them are offered big benefits from laboratories for prescribing certain drugs. It is easier for them not to study more than their area. And some of them-as many people-lead poor lifes just going from their workplace to home..
The other dangerous things is what they call "normality". I have always liked sex-being depressed or manic or stable. I have not have a stable couple for years..I am registered in a website to look for a couple, a long-term relationship. But months have passed and I am alone, and I have been deceived a couple of times. Sex three times a week would be fine, once is ok, at least once I said to myself. So I got in touch with a married man via that site and I am her lover. He is decent, nice, educated and he comes from a good family. In a world like this, I am lucky that he isn´t trying to get money from me..he invites me to lunch and pays the hotel. I know he is not going to leave his wife , he knows I am going to leave him if I find a more complete proposal, we will remain faithful while the relation lasts. I am not in love with him, I only feel affection and respect. He said that he just wanted sex and have a good time without compromise.
But I am CHILEAN, THAT IS THE PROBLEM. The dr. (a lady) said that I am hipersexual now because I cannot manage my sexual impulses during the time of being alone and had had to involve in such a situation not showing any respect for myself. Where are your values? She said.
It was useless telling her that both my mother and grannie were separated and had lovers, that my family is socialist and atheist and that my father´s parents were yugoslavian...She gave more lithium.
I am going to write to the Chief dr. of the area..in a good way
When I had enough money for my treatment I used to change doctor. I have two university diplomas, and I am a very cultivated person. Just detect if your doctor is "in love" with certain medicines or laboratories...I can give you some advice. Just detect if he or she has various activities, reads about different topics, has information about other diseases, etc. Look for more opinions. But be very polite, non confrontational, and always "asking"-not attacking- if "this could be possible.
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izzy62
replied on January 31st, 2008
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I forgot to say that my doctor said that "my sexual behaviour is not normal among chilean women". Normal does not mean healthy. In Chile many, many married couples stay together without love, even hating each other just because children are too young or because in Chile single people are looked down or do not have opportunities to have social activities. Many women sleep in the same bed with their husbands-which have a mistress-and admit that they do not have a lover, that is, do not have sex...for years...is that healthy? Well, for some is OK, for me NOT.
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bakin_april
replied on January 31st, 2008
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I'm bipolar so I have experience behind what I'm about to say, but what does it matter which is the root of what's going on?? I'm not being a smart*ss, but really, what does it matter?

In the past I've had horrible problems accepting situations. The result? I was constantly anxious. Now I say, "it isn't worth it." I finally realized I can accept a situation without SURRENDERING to it. This revelation has freed me. My anxiety is all but eliminated since I no longer spend my time worrying about everything.

My husband says about any situation, "It is what it is." This used to be infuriating to me! How dare he say, "it is what it is", doesn't he know I think it means THIS or the implications are THAT and I might as well get worked up over it since I can't see my way clear to dealing with it.

To me it's simple now: It is what it is. In your case, it's either the meds or it's not. It's either the bipolar or it's not. This constantly thinking of Why or Why Not a situation is sets me up for frustration and anxiety (which I believe make bipolar worse).

Accept your state of affairs right now because it just is. Then you can get to work making the positive changes you need to make to achieve happiness.
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puzzld
replied on February 1st, 2008
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the meds help... they don't cure. so if something goes wrong (not sure what that means) it could be normal. you will still have ups and downs even on meds.

what is the "something"?
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