Yes I like the look of an uncut penis. And if looks are a factor why not tailor all our childrens features to fit our ideas of attractiveness?

I don't think circumcision is necessary for sanitary or health reasons. I think people holding on to those arguments are just attempting to justify an unnecessary (and barberic) cosmetic procedure on a helpless infant.

My boyfriend is cut. I have a suspision by the way our conversations about circumcision tend to go that he wishes he wasn't. He gets pretty defesive and weird about it. Whenever it comes up and tells me "why are we talking about something that's over and done with".

If I ever have sons (knock on wood! I don't want anymore biological children), their penises will stay the way nature intended for themto be,

My bf was not mutilated by his parents nor social conventions.

That HIV claim is bunk.

If males want to get part of their sexual organ amputated, can they not make that decision when they are capable of informed consent?

geez, go easy on the circumsized guys. they can't help it. lol. i'm sure my guy would get kind of uncomfortable about his if i railed on about how wrong it is. i'm not for it, but i definitely am happy with the one we've got and wouldn't change it for the world.

and my belief in it got to do with circumcision? As others have pointed out, there are less problems with keeping the penis clean. A clean penis is a happy penis, as far as the partner is concerned. At least for most of us, that is what we would like to believe. Oh well. Another fairy tale as it can turn out to be at times.

Have you been present in a Temple when the Rabbi performs the Sacrament of Circumcision? I haven't either, but it is part of their most fundamental beliefs.

I actually don't carry my bible around but do indeed keep it in my bedroom and am more than happy with my faith.

Just read yesterday in the current issue of Vogue a story about a woman who had to have a late term abortion because of an incompetent cervix. Something to think about. Guess not all these abortions are just a woman chosing to do so for social and personal reasons.

I am not giving the circumcized guys crap- It's the people who do it now even though there is no logical reason to do so.

It's exactly that "they can't help it". Someone made the decision for them to amputate part of their penis. I can't blame them if they are uncomfortable; it's the wrong thing to do.


You are avidly prolife yet you advocate for the mutiliation of newborns. Without even pain management. I see an issue there.

There are less problems keeping ears and teeth clean if we don't have them, either; should we cut those off?

Religion... a mohel performing surgery on an infant cannot be any more inappropriate. It's only because it's "tradition" that it's still accepted. Can you imagine the outcry if a cult decided to remove the outer ear on newborns without pain medication to perform supplication to the netherworld spirits? How is that any different?

Logic...a lost art.

I personally have always found an uncut penis to look rather ugly, or at least ugly in comparison to a circumcised penis. It looks like the squeezed-off end of a freshly-ground sausage.

Something I don't get is how the foreskin provides greater stimulation. The part that it protects is the most sensitive area of the penis, so how could stimulation possibly be better if there's a layer of skin between that sensitive part and whatever is causing the stimulation? If anything, I'd say the foreskin reduces the amount of satisfaction because contact is indirect rather than direct as in cases when the male is cut.

An erection changes all that, Cambion. The glans is exposed, and as it is not normally rubbing against clothing, it is much more sensitive. The foreskin then provides movement on the shaft.

ok id like to know how many people who believe in cicrumsion are prolife?

i find it interesting that you feel like its "horrible to abort" but you can sit there and cut off a body part of a BORN LIVING baby

well, isn't it horrible to abort? i'm in between on the pro-life/pro-choice thing. i beleive women should have a choice but i wish they would choose life. you can spin it any way you want to but there isn't anything pleasant about killing an unborn baby is there? anyway - WAY off topic. sorry.

lol. Almost misinterpreted you; glad I re-read.

Circumcisions are done for religious reasons - or for the petty reason "to look like dad". I'm sorry, but I accept the religious reason ten thousand times over the "look like dad" excuse.

so what is it done religously for?
does god want it done or something?

no.. not all are done for religious reasons! My X was far from being anything tuned into to God.. he owns a nudist camp passed down from generation to generation and they where not Circumcised, because they believed in the all natual thing.. even to the point of having sex with their children.

Yep. Men who are uncircumcised are "unclean". From what I know, the most common religions that do this trace their origins back to Judeism for the custom. Christianity and Islam both branched off of Judeism in their own time. Well, Judeism branched off of Christianity, but that's not the point.

That would be proving my point. Religious people commonly circumcise, and NON religious people like your X do not.

the ancient isrealites had a list of rules and proscriptions they followed in order to remain ritually clean. it is in the bible in leviticus and it's like the first 4 chapters of the torah or something. some people still adhere to some of it or all of it but for christians it is repeated again and again in the new testament and the gospels that law is less important than faith.

What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy Acts 10:1-15 (referring to Christ dying on the cross)

For in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love Gal. 5:4-6

The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself'Galatians 5:14

I believe these rules are also in Leviticus, which is in the modern Christian Bible. It's all those rules God told Moses.

I do believe I read several stories in the bible itself about people turning to God and/or Jesus and then participating in a ceremony of baptism AND circumcision.

THANK YOU CAMBION!!!

I couldn't have said it better myself.

yes, girlfriend, I doubt any teenager would be taking a shower with his dad, but they usually do when they are younger because they want to be just like them. And if they are different, they may try to make themselves look like them. That's why you walk in and find they are drawing hair on themselves when they are 5.

well then why did god make thier penis' that way? if god cares so much he should just make men born without them.

i dont read the bible. but i like this one:
For in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love Gal. 5:4-6

^^

That's why talks need to start at that age!! I asked when I was six, and learned "Sex", so I've pretty much always know. I never tried to draw hair on myself or wondered why I didn't have a penis despite seeing my father bathe many times and my mother too. That's because they TOLD ME the difference between children and adults, and between boys and girls.