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Bruce1058
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Kidney Stones
Posted: 01-05-08 14:30pm
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I'm being treated for a 2.5 CM stone..On
oct 31 a stent was placed with laser
surgery soon after...approx 2 weeks later
i was put on my knees with pain and bright
red blood was dripping...while gathering
my fragments from my strainer i noticed
what appeared to be glass about 3 days
later i passed what appeared to be the
other half..after some research i have
came to the reality that this is the
Distal end (fiber-optics) of the laser
that was utilized in my procedure...I had
stopped taking my vicadin because i felt
that the worse was over...approx 3days
later my penis felt as if i was voiding
hot razors so i went back on the meds...I
ran out and contacted doctor for him to
say he felt i needed another kub...the
pain persisted for three more weeks...with
no pain meds...yesterday i passed a tissue
mass that is 2 inches long with the
appearance of a cooked spagettii
noodle...has any one ever passed tissue
mass because of a stent or is this from
the laser going out of control when the
fiber optics end broke...any input will be
helpful..Thanks in advance,Bruce (49 male)
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lonestarguy
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Posted: 01-05-08 14:53pm
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Bruce:
Wow, what a story! I've had three or four
kidney stones and a bladder stone that
required laser surgery a few years ago,
but never encountered the problems you
have.
You were lucky you still had some Vicodin
to take when the pain became unbearable. I
would certainly say something to your
doctor about what happened with the fiber
optics and the types of things you have
passed. I have never passed anything like
a noodle, all of my stones were hard.
Man, you are a better man than me to take
all this and not complain or at least
shoot somebody for putting you through it.
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^Serenity^
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Posted: 01-05-08 16:12pm
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Bruce
WOW!!!! You are going through a lot.
You should definitely contact your doctor
or go to the ER to get a CT Scan and a KUB
done. I have many problems with my kidneys
and stones are definitely one of those.
I've been getting stones for over 25
years. I've also been stented more times
than I care to remember.
The only thing close to the "noodle"
description that I had was puss and I was
told it was normal to have that with a
stent after having a cysto. They did a
urine test which was negative for
infection as it was a concern to me
because it looked like puss and stringy.
When a stent is in place it will aggravate
the bladder wall and kidney which can
cause pieces of tissue to be passed when
you urinate.
There are many different stent sizes..I
learned this the hard way. I've had
stents that were way to big for me and
they hurt with slightest movement.
My new urologist uses a smaller stent when
I have to get one put in.
It's possible the stent you have might be
to big for you, which might be adding to
the pain and tissue pieces being passed.
As for passing pieces of what appeared to
be glass..Could it have been pieces of the
stone? Most stones are jagged like glass
and are crystallized due to the formation
of the type of stones you are producing.
Do you still have the pieces? If so I'd
bring them to the doctor and ask him what
they are? (at least for peace of mind
sake)
I hope nothing went wrong during the
procedure.
Again the best advice I can give you is
to see your doctor or if the pain gets
really intense go to the ER and take it
easy, don't do any heavy lifting and drink
plenty of fluids to keep the pieces
moving, also walking a little will help
move those little buggers!!
Take Care of yourself... 
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Bruce1058
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Open For Suggestions Imbruceiam At Yahoo
Posted: 01-06-08 14:56pm
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I APPRECIATE anyone that can relate to
what we go thru even if it is just to
vent...I assure you that it IS glass
tubular about 1/4inch in lenth from my
research i'm POSSITIVE it came from the
Laser...My uro is riduculus and was very
harsh to me when i asked him what the
tissue was... almost as if he fit me in
his schedual for something not neccessary
all i wanted was peace of mind about my
kidney being damaged from the procedure...
and when and if I need another Doctor I
will make certain that He or She has had
at least one stone...This is my second
stent and my first one put me within
inches of a noose but I asked for a
smaller one and this one in me now is
really not too bad...He said it was the
stent that caused me to pass this tissue
and having one before i just had to ask
for advice from people that suffer like
myself...if it was caused from my stent
and is so common why did he say he didn't
know what it is...if anyone is interested
in seeing it let me know and i will see
about a way to show it...i feel like my
mom bred with an alein and i gave birth to
a worm..she says i'm human so it makes me
think it is a peice of my kidney...i
wrestle with passing that worm so bad that
i asked for a kub but it didnt show up
because it was my tissue so he just
thought i was after more pain
medicine...needless to say i feel pretty
worthless...Good Luck to everyone,Bruce
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^Serenity^
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Posted: 01-07-08 15:27pm
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Bruce
I am sorry your doctor is being a jerk.
This is how my old urologist treated me
and I had him for years. My old urologist
damaged my kidney by doing a "new"
procedure called endopylotomy. This
procedure is only to be done on patients
who never had a previous UPJ well I did
have surgery in 1997 he's the one who
operated me and then to have him do this
half *** job a couple years ago left me
with extreme pain and my kidney was so
large it was pushing into my ribs it was
almost twice the size. So I went to a new
doctor who was able to save my kidney
after doing a 6 hour operation to cut
sections of my ureter tube out and
reposition my kidney. All of this is
temporary due to my kidney disease, these
operation are buying me time for now.
Sorry I got off topic...I guess my point
is you are being treated unfairly and
deserve a doctor who will listen to you.
Keep fighting it's your health and without
that what do we really have?
I would talk to the hospital about your
experience with this doctor and the
glass.
If that broke when they were doing the
procedure they should do a cysto to make
sure you don't have anymore pieces
floating around in there or pieces that
lodged into your kidney or bladder.
Don't let the doctor make you feel
worthless...he's the worthless one!!
Take care and vent all you need to..I can
relate to what you are going through with
the exception of I'm a female but I have
seen my son and husband deal with stones
also...they are brutal buggers.
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Bruce1058
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stents n stones can break your spirits
Posted: 03-14-08 22:17pm
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142 days of having a stent inside my
kidney is beginning to take it's toll on
my spirits...I hurt,We all need to keep
our possitive thoughts...Maybe i will get
this stent out of me on March 18th
'08...Good luck to all of you,just
remember...your not alone, keep up your
spirits and try to smile:) Bruce
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Posted: 03-15-08 08:19am
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I have heard of stents being put in for
this long even longer (sorry).
Try to keep a good outlook.
Are they giving you any idea when they
will take it out?
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aflsh
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Posted: 03-17-08 12:41pm
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my stents were in for 6 months at a time.
That's what my Dr. said they could last
til. I eventually stopped having them
because they never improved my kidney
function and it is a painful and
inconvenient procedure in my case, because
it didn't help. I thought I gave it a
good try. I had them for 7 years
straight. That's 14 procedures. I gave it
a good try. It does work for some people.
Good luck everyone.
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Bruce1058
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Posted: 03-17-08 19:52pm
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oh my goodness! all the research that i
have done never mentioned having one for
6months..4 to 5 months top was what i had
read..i've delt with stones for 30 yrs of
my 49...I always told myself that it could
be worse...it would appear to me my point
has been proven by reading about your
history...as of right now...my thoughts
are with you more than myself ...I will
hope for the best results possible and i
truely feel that you gave it as much time
you could take...keep your spirits up,
Bruce
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Posted: 03-18-08 09:23am
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How are you feeling Bruce?
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Bruce1058
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Posted: 03-18-08 16:22pm
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Thanks for asking:)I go in thursday
3/20/08 for some more laser surgery and a
new stent..as for the way i
feel...sheweeee! I'm tired and as a Tile
setter i need lots of patience but this
little ordeal i'm going through now is
wearing me down to a nub..I think i will
change my screen name to Nubbins..I have
made a really neat reminder to eat and
drink right...i made it out of Black lava
from Hawaii with Diamonds and Swarovski
Crystals and about 200 Sandy, Rocky
Slivers of Kidney Stones with a Silver
Dragon chained up and growling...I would
like to think of it as a Monster i have a
handle on...Time will tell, Bruce
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Posted: 03-19-08 10:07am
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Best of Luck tomorrow... 
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aflsh
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Posted: 03-19-08 17:47pm
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I wish you the best. I hope I didn't
scare you. I just meant that I understand
what you are going through and it is
rough. The people around you can't always
understand unless they have been there.
Good luck on your laser tommorrow.
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Bruce1058
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KUB Worthless for long term Stent
Posted: 03-24-08 15:38pm
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where do i start? I've had a KUB every 3-4
weeks for 4 1/2 months ! worthless xray
for people with stents... my stent was
in too long and had calcified (that did
NOT show up with KUB)...good ole laser to
chisel it out...2.5 hours Now I'm
looking down 3 days later at a swollen
member of my body that has a catheder
tube pertruding out of it to go along with
my brand new stent...I've kept my spirits
up and i keep telling myself "it is just a
kidney stone(S)" It could be alot
worse:)
GoodLuck to everyone:) GUZZLE UP!!!
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aflsh
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Posted: 03-27-08 15:50pm
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I'm sorry your having such a hard time.
Stents really suck. I hope your feeling
better soon.
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^Serenity^
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Posted: 03-27-08 16:28pm
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Hi Bruce1058
How are you doing?
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Bruce1058
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9th Month for a simple calcium oxalate stone
Posted: 04-15-08 11:20am
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Well just as i suspected...KUB every 3-4
weeks since oct 31st'07 and it didn't show
any calcium build-up because (as i was
told)"Because it was so evenly coated" so
guess who had to edure a 2 1/2hr surgery
to chisel it loose with a laser and woke
up with a cathedar? They didn't charge me
for the laser,i'm assuming it was due to
the fact of the first one left some fiber
optics in me ! Here i sit 3 weeks later
finally able to feel sub-human looking
foward to tomorrow when i get another KUB
and MAYBE get this stent out of me(this
one has been very ,very painful when i
urinate but goes away when i stop
voiding)
I wish you all the best,sorry for the
duration between post but as you can try
to imagine...Stones grow fast and move
slow...Surgeons like to play with their
tools and insurance companys are too tough
on the self employed,I was 22 when first
started my rocky road and since it was
pre-existing...rates so high that I figure
the next time i feel the burning back and
vomiting in the toilet i will go get
arrested...but they can't take my
spirits,GoodLuck Everyone
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