jenniek
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Please Help!
Posted: 01-03-08 14:13pm
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I really need advice on what to do!
Brayden is 10 1/2 months and does not
sleep through the night. He usually wakes
once or twice and falls right back to
sleep after I give him his pacifier but
then by the third time he wakes he will
not go back to sleep unless I bring him to
bed with me. I really want to stop this
habit but I don't know how! Also getting
him down for bed in the evenings is a
challenge in its self. Brayden fights
going to sleep and sometimes is up til 10
or 11 which I think is entirely to late
for a baby..heck its too late for me!!
So I really need ideas on how to get him
into a better sleeping pattern. I mean
this can't be normal for a baby can it? I
have tried to put him down at 8pm and let
him cry it out but he cries so hard that
he starts coughing and sometimes its as if
he is crying soo hard that nothing comes
out and then i usually end up giving in.
Is it ok to let him cry that hard?
Ok sorry I won't ramble anymore..I gotta
get back to work! But any ideas and advice
would be helpful!
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Becky
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Posted: 01-03-08 14:53pm
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I don;t really have anything to say as
Logan is 2 and still wakes up 
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jessesgirl
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Posted: 01-03-08 23:10pm
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I read the book, The SleepEasy Solution
and used the technique. I HIGHLY
recommend it. It sounds like you two can
benefit tremendously from this book!!!
It saved my life!!
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laura_friesen
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Posted: 01-04-08 00:54am
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hey hun. my son who is now 16 months, I
had him sleeping through the night just
after 6 months. I think it's all up to the
parent to be honest...It's hard tho! But
Landon was just waking up in the middle of
the night just to see if i was there.
because after like 6months they don't need
bottle or anything in the middle of the
night. I let him "cry it out" and yah ..he
cried hard like that too.But it only took
two nights. You'll know if your baby
"needs you" if he's gunna throw up he's
crying so hard you know! But it took my
guy two nights of some heavy 20 min crying
and after that.....he has been sleeping
8-8 ever since. no crying, no nothing.
even if he's wide awake he goes to bed at
8, and haven't had a problem since. same
with his naps. 1230 is nap time. it does
work, you just gotta stick to it. i know
it's hard 
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mominashoe
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Posted: 01-04-08 01:03am
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It would depend on why he is crying.
First make sure that he has had enough to
eat during the day and the recommended
amount of sleep (naptime) during the day.
If he is teething, you can try a little
tylenol before he goes to sleep and see
how he does on that for the night.
My third child would scream and cry and
make herself throw up when she was a baby
just so that she wouldn't have to go to
bed. When she was even smaller she always
stayed up until 3 am and that really
killed me. I should have been a little
more strict!
Eventually we realized that it wasn't
going to stop, so we asked the doctor
about it. He suggested giving her doses
of Benedryl to "stone" her at night and
see if that worked. Of course this is
something you would have to ok with your
own doctor, but I think it worked for
us......I say I think because she also
came down with something and started an
irregular schedule because she didn't feel
well.
Your son keeps waking up because he knows
that you will come and help him. The key
is to not pick him up. You can go in and
check on him if you are worried he needs a
change, say some soothing words, but don't
touch him or pick him up unless he needs a
change. You can even sit with him and
watch him in his crib for a while until he
calms down if that works. Sometimes my
son just stares at me for a while and then
he lies down when he sees that I'm not
going to do what he wants.
Try putting some soft music on a CD player
and making it repeat through the night.
So I see he wakes up three times a night.
You can take it down to three
weeks......the first week, definitely get
rid of taking him to bed with you and just
give him the pacifier if you don't want to
just cut that visit all together. The
next week, cut out the second trip to his
room. The third, no more nighttime
visits. It might take a little longer
than a week for each you cut out, but at
least that would be progress.
GL with it 
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jenniek
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Posted: 01-04-08 11:26am
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Thanks girls. I know i just need to be
strong but I feel sooo bad! Mominashoe
(sorry I don't know your name!) I
definately agree that he keeps waking up
and crying because he knows I'll come in
there, I keep telling my boyfriend that
and yet we can't stop ourselves.. Would it
be entirely wrong for me to go take a
shower or something when I put him down to
cry it out, that way I wouldn't hear it
and give in?? Or is that totally bad?
Last night he stayed up til 1030 and
wouldn't settle down so after he had a big
bottle and was changed and all his needs
taken care of I laid him down in his crib.
The second the door closed he was up
screaming but I waited for 5 minutes then
checked on him, laid him down again and
left for another five minutes and then the
third time I went in I laid him down and
ended up patting his back for probably 30
minutes until he feel asleep it took
forever! It was so hard and I feel
horrible letting him cry because we live
with my parents right now and their room
is right across the hall from the
nursery.. I know most people only say it
takes a few days so maybe if we stick it
out that long it will be alright. Thank
you again girls.
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jenniek
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Posted: 01-04-08 11:27am
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oh and I was going to say that we do play
music for him, he even had a music box
that turns on automatically if he starts
crying.
Do you guys think maybe I should turn on a
nightlight or something of that sort?
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mominashoe
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Posted: 01-04-08 11:42am
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Night lights are very good. I always use
them. I have a CD player in my sons room
that runs all night and that keeps him
focused on white noise or classical music
all night so that he won't be disturbed by
the stupid school bus that's backing up
across the street or my other children
making loud noises.
It's not wrong to take a shower or to just
to step outside onto the porch or watch a
movie with headphones for a bit while you
are waiting for him to cry it out. I know
the crying can definitely make you go
crazy!!
It is really hard and understandable that
you can't help yourself and get him
anyways. Letting a little one cry makes
you feel like you're a bad mother, but
what the best thing for him is actually to
do the opposite of what you feel in this
case because he needs the sleep 
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 01-04-08 17:03pm
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Here's my advice....go in, make sure he's
OK cover him up and walk out. Give him a
few pats and kind words. After that, no
talking. Go in check on him, don't say
anything, and then leave the room. You
must insist that he sleep in his own bed
if it is important for you. If he knows
you will cave in, then he will continue to
drive you to caving in. You must be
strong for his sake. Nobody ever died
from having to sleep intheir own bed, or
crying about it, so you aren't a bad mom,
just one who wants her son to develop
healthy sleep habits. I hope it works!
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jenniek
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Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 692 Location: Salina
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Posted: 01-04-08 17:48pm
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Thanks again everyone! I'm gonna put my
foot down a little more tonight. I'm gonna
lay him down at 8 and let him just cry a
little bit. And I think if he wakes
through the night I'll just let him cry
unless I know he really needs something.
Is 8 a good bedtime for a 10 month old? To
early? To late?
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jessesgirl
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Posted: 01-04-08 20:07pm
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The best time to put a child that age to
bed at night is between 7:00 and 8:00.
I've read 3 books on child's sleep and
sleep training. I've gotten the BEST info
from that book I recommended. It gives a
guide for time span between waking up and
naps and naps and bedtime. PM me if you
need more info. I'm always willing to
help with this subject b/c I've been there
and DONE that!
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jenniek
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Posted: 01-07-08 21:22pm
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Ok I need more guidance!!! This is night 4
of our sleep struggle. I moved a rocking
chair into the nursery and we go in there
at 7:30 and I rock him with his bottle and
he is almost instantly out. That has
improved soo much. I used to rock him in
the living room and there were too many
distractions from my family, the tv etc.
And he hasn't slept in my bed for 3 days!!
Which is wonderful, I'm stickin to my guns
with this one!!
But I need help with what to do when he
wakes up. He is waking up SOO much during
the night. Do I just let him cry every
single time he wakes up? Do I go in there
and lay him back down and then leave? The
past few nights I have been patting his
tummy/back till he goes to sleep and if
that doesn't work I rock him in the
rocking chair in his room but it sometimes
takes over an hour to get him back to
sleep. Its really hard letting him cry it
out because my parents sleep right across
the hall and my dad gets really ticked
when he is woke up by this. So really
what I'm asking is do I need to let him
cry EVERY time he wakes? If I do it
sometimes and not others is that going to
confuse him and send mixed messages?
He has just woke back up.. like 30 minutes
after i put him down. I'm letting him cry
right now because my dad is still awake
but after he goes to bed what am I to do!!
Oh and last night brayden was trying to
escape from his crib. He was trying to
stand on the bumper pad and crawl out, so
we took that off. And then he stands there
and shakes the side trying to get it to
come down. Its not really possible for
him to climb out, right?
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Posted: 01-07-08 21:28pm
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Without bumper pads, he can't get out.
WIth them, he could EASILY flip himself
out!
Sarah
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jenniek
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Posted: 01-07-08 21:40pm
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Oh.. and how long is it ok for him to cry?
He has been crying for 30 minutes and
doesn't seem to be letting up. This could
go on forever.
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Posted: 01-07-08 23:00pm
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| sillyakchick
wrote: | | Here's my advice....go in,
make sure he's OK cover him up and walk
out. Give him a few pats and kind words.
After that, no talking. Go in check on
him, don't say anything, and then leave
the room. You must insist that he sleep
in his own bed if it is important for you.
If he knows you will cave in, then he will
continue to drive you to caving in. You
must be strong for his sake. Nobody ever
died from having to sleep intheir own bed,
or crying about it, so you aren't a bad
mom, just one who wants her son to develop
healthy sleep habits. I hope it
works! |
I did that! It worked wonderfully. It was
difficult for a few weeks but I just kept
on and it paid off. The whole cry it out
is such a debate topic. I personally
wouldn't do it if my child is under the
age of 9 months. I did let Nate cry it
out a few times when he was 10 months. I
mainly did what was described above.
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jenniek
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Posted: 01-08-08 08:09am
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Ya I was so hesitant to let brayden cry it
out but now that he is almost a year old I
have decided I really need to fix his
sleeping problems..
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kaerbear
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Posted: 01-08-08 10:19am
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do you have a bedtime ritual? like at the
same time every night have a bath, do a
little massage with lotion, put on
jammies, read a book, dim the lights and
turn off the tv, sing a song while rocking
in a chair or just put them to bed and
stay with him for a while? if not, maybe
you could try that. i have that lavender
scented baby bath and i rub oil all over
eadie after her bath and it really relaxes
her and gets her ready to sleep. she is
really sensitive to noises so i make the
house quiet and either read to her or just
sit and talk to her for a while in the
rocking chair. when she starts to yawn i
just rock her for a while and sing her a
few songs or just hum to her and she goes
to sleep.
and when they wake up at night you are
supposed to keep the lights off and try
not to make eye contact. just keep
everything quiet and talk to them as
little as possible. you can still give
them a pat and reassure them but try to do
as little as possible. don't they have a
thing about this on supernanny all the
time? lol. where you slowly work your
way out of the room so they can see you
and know you are there and feel safer, but
they aren't getting picked up or talked
to.
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 01-08-08 15:33pm
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| kaerbear
wrote: | do you have a bedtime
ritual? like at the same time every night
have a bath, do a little massage with
lotion, put on jammies, read a book, dim
the lights and turn off the tv, sing a
song while rocking in a chair or just put
them to bed and stay with him for a while?
if not, maybe you could try that. i have
that lavender scented baby bath and i rub
oil all over eadie after her bath and it
really relaxes her and gets her ready to
sleep. she is really sensitive to noises
so i make the house quiet and either read
to her or just sit and talk to her for a
while in the rocking chair. when she
starts to yawn i just rock her for a while
and sing her a few songs or just hum to
her and she goes to sleep.
and when they wake up at night you are
supposed to keep the lights off and try
not to make eye contact. just keep
everything quiet and talk to them as
little as possible. you can still give
them a pat and reassure them but try to do
as little as possible. don't they have a
thing about this on supernanny all the
time? lol. where you slowly work your
way out of the room so they can see you
and know you are there and feel safer, but
they aren't getting picked up or talked
to. |
I forgot about the bed time routine! It
realy is important to be consistent with
that and make sure you allow them some
time to calm down prior to bed time.
Hannah gets reaallly overstimulated when
there is a loud movie on, and I have to
just stop it for a while before she goes
to bed. We do the bath, lavender oil,
book and cup before bed, too and it's a
really nice routine for her. I tried
massage, but she just giglges and gets all
silly.
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jenniek
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Posted: 01-08-08 19:24pm
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Oh boy I think its hopeless. Half the
stuff you are telling me we have tired!!
We did the bedtime routine and I seriously
went out one time and bought like EVERY
lavendar baby product and it doesn't do a
darn thing for him!!
I know you should slowly work you way out
of the room and no talk and such but as
soon as I stop patting his back he stands
up. He immediately gets up if he thinks
I'm going to leave and starts screaming
there is no way I'm ever going to get out
of his room!!
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