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For the past 4-5 months I have had swollen tonsils and a white coated tongue with red spots. I am now feeling exhausted a lot of the time, there is a dry, burning or tingling sensation at the back of my throat, and I have difficulty swallowing.

The dr told me that I have tonsililitus and oral thrush, but doesnt know what caused it. He tested me for diabetes and glandular fever. I have neither. I have taken a course of anti-biotics, but still was no change. Does anyone know what this condition is, and what I can do about it?
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replied April 23rd, 2004
Experienced User
It sounds like you need to be on anti-fungal medicine along with the antibiotics. Thrush is an infection but is similar to a yeast infection where it's cause by an overabundance of fungal bacteria and should be treated with antifungal medicine. The antibiotics would work for typical tonsillitis.
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replied April 23rd, 2004
Thanks for you're response. I took a course of nystatin at the first sign of the symptoms. They were delicious pastilles! But the oral thrush has still not gone away.

I'm hoping I can figure out the root of the symptoms so I can change whatever is causing it. I don't smoke or have asthma, and this is the first time I have ever had tonsilitis and oral thrush.

The only irregular thing that I can link to my mouth is that my wisdom teeth started coming out around the same time as the symptoms started. Could this influence thrush?
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replied February 7th, 2013
I don't know if what I had last Christmas was tonsillitis or thrush. But it was whitish yeast-like thing. I had it on my tonsils and at the back of my mouth. I found it hard to swallow food and it sores. I also find it hard to breathe when I lie down or going to sleep. I did gargle with warm salt water several times a day. And I drank lots of water everyday. After 2 weeks, it's all gone. And I'm all okay. Since then, it never came back. And I started to be cautious with my mouth. Everytime I eat some sweets I make sure I drink lots of water and brush my teeth and tongue before going to sleep. And I don't let my mouth dry anymore. I hope this helps.
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replied April 30th, 2004
Ollen Tonsls, Oral Thrush, And Soooo Tired
Hi lexis, I too have the same symptoms as you. I have had a constant sore throat for the past 9 months. I am in misery. I have been to the doctor numerous times and had every kind of test run in the book. Nothing ever shows up and the doctor says that she hs no idea what is wrong. I am so frustrated! I too have the burning at the back of my throat and it hurts really bad. Mostly when I try to do some activity and in the evening. I have noticed white stuff on my tonsils too and some kind of white coating on my tongue. My doctor didnt say anyting about this.I have been on multiple antibiotics and nothing works. Please let me know if you get to the root of your problem so maybe I could let my doctor know what to check for! Mad
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replied May 1st, 2004
Stress
Stress combined with incoming wisdom teeth can couse these problems. You should probably see your dentist to find out if the wisdom teet are impacted (coming in obstructed). Are your gingiva (gums) bleeding too? It may be a syncrome that dnetists know as anug. Rolling Eyes achronic necrotizing ulcerative ginigivitis . The thrush sounds like it is a opportunistic complication, secondary to impacted wisdom teeth.
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replied May 6th, 2004
Thanks for your responses.

The back of my gums have been bleeding on one side where the wisdom teeth are coming through. Where the gum hangs over the tooth, its very hard to keep clean aswell, because food particles get stuck underneath. The alignment of the wisdom teeth coming through are straight, but one tooth is twisted so the front is not facing forwards.

So it makes sense that my teeth may have impacted further infection, if that's so then I will gladly have these taken out, if it stops the symptoms. -surely better than having the tonsils out anyway!!

Pmarie, I don't know how much this helps you, but I will speak to my dentist and post the results here.

Ps. I agree that stress definately affects the symptoms, handing my dissertation in has been the best remedy yet of relieving the symptoms!!
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replied August 16th, 2011
Oral Thrush
Hi, lexis the hardest part about the thrush is it's feeding on sugar...you should ask your Dr. for a one time pill of Diflucan and remove as much sugar from your diet as you can....
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replied May 8th, 2004
I can't get rid of my oral thrush. It comes back whenever my immune system is down.

You can take a topical swish and swallow of nystatin. Right now I have a bad fungal infection which includes my sinuses, etal and i'm on diflucan tablets. Not all Dr.S seem to know about it. But I have a great ent who is very experienced with it. And one look into my mouth and nose and he knows i'm infected.

Rolling Eyes
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replied April 7th, 2011
Thrush did not absolve after taking Nystatin
I just finished taking a 10-day dose of Nystatin for thrush. I still have a sore throat (painful to swallow.

When it first became prominent, I had many ulcers and pus cysts on the back of my throat; they cleared. The exhaustion has been overwhelming.

The week previously, I was on antibiotics for strep throat. I got a double play on pain. Ugh!

My doctor called after doing a complete blood culture and said my white cells were elevated indicating infection. I assumed it was because of the thrush. I tested negative for mono.

My daughter works for a pediatrician and he said when adults get thrush, there's an underlying factor that needs to be found and to take it seriously. It means one's immune system is compromised and the cause needs to be explored.

I am going to call my primary doctor in the morning to get a recommendation for an immunologist.

Best wishes to all of you out there suffering. We truly have compassion for each other and this support does help.

God Bless You All.
Denise
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replied May 11th, 2004
Progress
Ok, I have been to the dentist and I am still none the wiser about my throat symptoms. They are still the same. My dentist has told me that she doesn't recommend I have my wisdom teeth out, as it it generally not recommended in her practice. She has smoothed my teeth out a bit though so I don't bite on my gums and make them bleed.

For the oral thrush and throat I have been recommended dentylph mouthrinse, and it works very well. I can actually see the bacteria come out my mouth. I am also trying natural remedies like aniseed, garlic, liquorice, honey, lemon, aloe-vera. Hope this helps anybody with the same symptoms as me.

Will still appreciate any feedback about fighting oral thrush, swollen tonsils and sore throat.

Lex
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replied October 1st, 2004
Thrush Treatment!
I don't know if anyone is still interested in this subject, however, I had thrush in my breasts from breastfeeding. Thrush is a form of candida (yeast) and I was told that many babies have it in their bodies at birth. I had given the baby nystatin but was told that the best thing that would work for me was diflucan. If you haven't tried it, it may be worth a shot! Also, has rinsing with a wash like listerine helped at all? Idea
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replied December 6th, 2004
Answer For Thrush
I was on nystatin also for my thrush infection, however, my infection was down my throat and not visible in my mouth. Nystatin did not cure it and my ent put me on diflucan pills. Once a day for ten days and it did the trick. Even more important, once the thrush was gone, he uncovered a bacterial infection on my lingual tonsils that was not visible before due to the fungal yeast infection. They are two completely different infections and required different medicines. I went on augmentin for that. You should definitley be on diflucan for a difficult to treat yeast infection. (thrush)
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replied June 2nd, 2005
Mono?
I know this thread is pretty old, but I just thought I would share. These are the same exact symptoms I had when I found out I had mono. Extremely sore throat, swollen tonsils, tired, and oral thrush (another big give away were my swollen lymph nodes.) the doctor said I had thrush because my throat hurt so bad I could barely swallow. I don't remember what medication he gave me for thrush, but I do remember that it was really hard to get rid of. My doctor accused me of not even using it when I came back in for a checkup and it wasn't gone!
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replied June 15th, 2005
Just wanted to say how helpful i've found this thread. I've suffered with swollen tonsils, white coating on the nodes in the tonsils and tiredness plus white coated tongue on and off for about 8 years. This coincides normally with some swelling in the glands. Coincidentally i've also got impacted wisdom teeth that have never broken through properly.

The doctors threw every type of anti-biotic at me which didnt' clear it up. At one time they suspected glandular fever. I found the only thing that cleared it up was gargling with mildly diluted tcp two or three times a day - none of the other mouth washes were strong enough. I did eventually ask for an anti-fungal because I suspected it was a fungal infection, since the infection often coincided with my girlfriend having thrush and the anti-fungal did seem to help.

It's just come back again now and i've had it for a month and a half so i'll definitely try an anti-fungal again.

I had wondered about getting my tonsils removed, but since I also have had problems with impacted wisdom teeth, I wonder if getting the wisdom teeth removed might be the first thing to try. If anyone with this problem has had this done an it's cleared it up, i'd be interested to know.

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replied October 14th, 2005
Oral Thrush Will Not Go Away
I am glad to hear that I am not the only person in the world suffering from this problem. I forst discovered my problem about 1 1/2 months ago. I had the sensation that something was stuck in my throat. It was driving me nuts. I finally went and looked in the mirror and what I saw freaked me out. My tongue was white and I had bumps on the back of my tongue. I immediately went to my family doctor and was advised that I had oral thrush. I was prescribed nystatin and magic mouthwash. I was to swish, gargle and swallow the nystatin for 10 days and swish, gargle, and spit out the magic mouthwash 3 times a day. Well, as nasty as the nystatin was I did it exactly as prescribed and 10 days later there was absolutely no diiference. I went back to the doctor and she seemed shocked that it had not even began to clear up. The doctor then said that we were going to try diflucan. So I did. I took the mediceine for 5 days and still nothing!! Still have a white tongue and still have the bumps on the back of my tongue. I went back to the doctor again and now she has prescribe mycelex and has also ordered some blood work and a culture. She asked if I would consent to a hiv test and I said yes. However, I am now completely freaked out. Everything that I have been reading on thrush seems to keep refering back to hiv. I am 36 years old and other than this thrush I seem to be in pretty good health. It has now been 4 days since I took the test and I just cannot seem to calm myself down. I just keep thinking that if there is nothing else wrong with me why is nothing working on my thrush.....Or is it even possible that this is not even thrush at all.
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replied March 31st, 2006
Don't Freak Out
I have the same problem and had very similar experiences however here's what I know:
everyone has yeast but when your immune system is weakened you may not be able to keep it on check and it can overgrow. I guess we all know that.

Here's what I suspect for some and myself:
many things can weaken the immune system. For example if you have infected teeth, dental caries or even re-infected root canals those are fires which you immune system is trying to control 24/7. This could leave the door open for yeast to grow like mad. Remember teeth have miles of tiny tubules. In a root canaled tooth blood no longer flows through these but anaerobic bacteria can live and thrive in the safety of these tubules and the bacteria give off some nasy toxins.
I have done no research on tonsils but my opinion is:
clean up your mouth before jumping to conclusions. A qualified dentist that's up on the latest techniques could be the way to go. There's also great debate on mercury amalgam fillings and their possible impact on the body over time. You'd have to decide for yourself if removing them is sensible to even affordable.

I don't think taking supplements will overcome the burden of a toxic mouth. I'm in the middle of trying to clean up mine. It's very expensive but i'm going for it because being tired all the time is not working for me and I relate my coated tongue to skin problems too. If a doctor suggested diflucan I personally would try it but no one's suggested that yet.

One of the worst aspects of candida is that it's hard to tell your friends the real reason that you're too tired to go out or even do the things you love. The mid-afternoon/night-time energy drain makes work and business very hard.

Let's all fix this and get back to 100%, okay? :lol:
let me know what worked for you.
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replied May 18th, 2006
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replied November 23rd, 2006
Re: Oral Thrush Will Not Go Away
Hey there, sammmmme deal with me. White coating on tongue, kinda yellow, sensative as hell. Lethargic, bloated when I drank beer and ate anything fun.

Confused, swollen lymph nodes under arms, and neck.

Did the nystatin mouse wash, nothing.Did the anti-fungal tablets, nothing
and yes, I went to 3 diff doctors and the first thing they said was "have you had an hiv test"
its just freakin awful.

Here is what I did, I did take an hiv test, it came back negative.

Then when I feel better about that they say "welll, your not out of the woods till 6 months from last sexual contact"
huh?, then why take the test?

I am sorry if this offends you but I am in the adult entertainment business , not in them, but I make dvd's and know people that are acting in it, and their tests need to be every 3 months.

Anyway, so yeah , you look on the web for your symptoms and it says hiv
what I ended up doing was going to a herb specialist.

Here is a good one too...I had/have prostatitus a problem some men get, so I got prescribed about 2 months of antibiotics, and since I have back problems I got a script for prednasone

guess what?, if you look up candida infection (yeast infection, not the girl yeast infection)
2 of the ways you get candida is long term antibiotics and prednasone
but walk into a ent guy, a general doctor, anyone and they will say "hiv?"

so I went to this herb lady, chinese medicine, accupuncture

her opinion is that I have a candida infection, you can look that up, but it seems that is what I or we have.

I have been in treatment with her for about 4 months, the improvement is hard to figure because I havent eaten the forbidden foods they say you cant eat and dont know how and if they would effect me,
i also just had 3 wisdom teeth removed, one very infected and impacted, and that was contributing to bacteria and also they say that the lymph system could be screwed because of fighting that bacteria, but its been about a month since the removal and the oral surgeon says I should be better, its reeaaaly hard to tell who is right and who is wrong.

But I am in the same boat and its really hard to keep my spirits up
let me know if this is still happening with you and if I can help or you can tell me your progress

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helendouble07 wrote:
i am glad to hear that I am not the only person in the world suffering from this problem. I forst discovered my problem about 1 1/2 months ago. I had the sensation that something was stuck in my throat. It was driving me nuts. I finally went and looked in the mirror and what I saw freaked me out. My tongue was white and I had bumps on the back of my tongue. I immediately went to my family doctor and was advised that I had oral thrush. I was prescribed nystatin and magic mouthwash. I was to swish, gargle and swallow the nystatin for 10 days and swish, gargle, and spit out the magic mouthwash 3 times a day. Well, as nasty as the nystatin was I did it exactly as prescribed and 10 days later there was absolutely no diiference. I went back to the doctor and she seemed shocked that it had not even began to clear up. The doctor then said that we were going to try diflucan. So I did. I took the mediceine for 5 days and still nothing!! Still have a white tongue and still have the bumps on the back of my tongue. I went back to the doctor again and now she has prescribe mycelex and has also ordered some blood work and a culture. She asked if I would consent to a hiv test and I said yes. However, I am now completely freaked out. Everything that I have been reading on thrush seems to keep refering back to hiv. I am 36 years old and other than this thrush I seem to be in pretty good health. It has now been 4 days since I took the test and I just cannot seem to calm myself down. I just keep thinking that if there is nothing else wrong with me why is nothing working on my thrush.....Or is it even possible that this is not even thrush at all.
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replied August 14th, 2011
i have diabetis,type 2,i have had swollen glands and headaches,i was sure there was something severly wrong with me,my dr prescibed diflucan,but i had to take it for a period of about 2 months to notice a difference,after the 2 months i was on it,the headaches were gone as well as all my symptoms,diflucan does work,but it has to be taken for a longer period of time,if your diabetic then maybe longer,i had thrush and it had moved to my stomach,lungs and sinusis,it has bee 5 months and its back but my dr says its because i am diabetic and need to control my sugar better,i have to do another round of diflucan.
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replied July 18th, 2007
White Tongue, Yeast
Know your enemy. Yeast thrives on sugar. Stop eating sugar. Life is better without it. Cut back on starches for a week. Soda drinks can leach vital nutrients like calcium from your body. Wine, coffee and chocolate can prevent the absorption of vital nutrients. Eat plenty of protein, including beans, peas and lentils and some meat if you are not vegetarian, to normalize your blood sugar. Always eat a lot of vegetables especially including leafy greens like collard, turnip and mustard greens. They contain calcium and iron. Potatoes, red peppers and green peppers are great nutrition. Make sure you are getting some of your iron and calcium from non meat sources. If your iron falls low try a bowl of cream of wheat, plain or dressed up. If you are tired or gassy, maybe your iron is low. Get your Vitamin D people!!!!! Many of your nutritional efforts may be for nothing if you don't get enough Vitamin D. To absorb critical nutrients you need Vitamin D. Lack of muscle strength and control, bone and joint pain and weight gain can be due to a lack of Vitamin D. So, get out in the sun, show some skin and go for a walk, everyday. The body can regulate Vitamin D best if it comes from your skin being exposed to the sun. Notice your stress float away and depression lift. If you have trouble getting outside, over the counter supplements are available, but don't over do it. 400 to 1000 I.U. is a good range to work in. If you think you need more, talk to your doctor. Have your physician administer a 25-hydroxyvitamin D test. Specifically for the thrush/white tongue problem, make sure you are eating olive oil, garlic, lemon juice and oregano in your diet as much as possible. They have antiseptic and antifungal properties and/or boost your immune system. If you like hummus, combine a can of chick peas (rinsed), as many garlic cloves as you can stand (or garlic powder), a couple of olives, lemon juice (about 1/4 cup or more), tahini (sesame paste about 2 tbsp) and a little water to help the blender go. Puree in a blender to the consistency you would enjoy. Chow down with bread or tortilla chips for a meal or snack. Vitamin C is great. It boosts your immune system and aids in proper liver function. But don't overdue supplements. Too much Vitamin C from a pill could be too much at once. Whenever possible, get your nutrition from food so your body can regulate how much it takes in. Coat your tongue with olive oil after a meal and after you have finished your oral hygeine routine. I use Pompeian extra virgin olive oil first cold press. Also, it is possible the balance of good bacteria in your body has been disturbed by antibiotics or alcohol. It may be helpful to repopluate your body with good bacteria like L.acidophilus by eating yogurt with such live cultures. Bacteria eats yeast. If the good bacteria in your body is low, yeast will thrive unchecked. Maybe have a little good quality cheese too, like blue cheese. But don't over do it. And for your overall health, change your toothbrush frequently, like once a month, and never leave anything on it when you are done. In fact you don't always need to use toothpaste. If you want a clean experience everytime, use a piece of sterile guaze over your finger, with or without toothpaste, in place of a toothbrush. I think it works better. Sometimes modern medicine will help, but nothing replaces good nutrition and self care. Go to the source. Take responsibility. Regain control. You need to know why you are craving eggplant or avocados? Look up what's in them in this nutrition database. It might be high in calcium or potassium. Critical nutrients. Potassium helps mitigate the effects of sodium. Also, you might not be a vegetarian, but you still eat vegetables (I hope) and you still need vital nutrients they provide. Take care of you like no one else can. Big tip here: buy, cook and eat lentils from India called Dal. You can get different varieties like Moong, Channa, Thoor, Urad, Masoor and others. They are SUPER high in calcium, iron and vitamin A. You can cook them with water in less than 1/2 and hour and drizzle olive oil on them. Use corn oil, sliced onions, curry powder and pre-soaked moong dal to make a delicious and easy curry on your stove top. Or, look up some authentic recipes. Super nutrition. The world is on your doorstep or at your computer terminal. I believe healthy food, the sun and exercise produce the fountain of youth and the gateway to good health.
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replied October 7th, 2007
Can Someone Make My Mind At Ease?
Hi guys, I had swallowing problem since I went to the dentist.
Now, I feel my mouth always dry, my tongue is white and coated.
I feel also that I have something at the end of my nose or in my throat.
I have eating problems because there is something in my mouth is not helping me to swallow. I started having all theses problems after the dentist, who I hate now. My tooth wasn't completely okay. I still had pain for days.
I tried a test that I read on Internet. AS soon as I get up I spit in the glass of water and after 15 minutes I check it out. If it was dissolved, I was quite sure I had not yeast infection, but It didn't dissolve, it deposited and it had like fingers and a spider web.
My ent didn't get it from the my first visit but the second one, she said to try the tablet in the mouth, I might have mouth infection. Is this sound familiar? do you guys have also swallowing problem? Like when you try to swallow you feel like there is something sticky is not helping you to get your food down and you feel something stuck in your throat. Is it normal?PLease help me out!!!!
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replied January 20th, 2012
oral problems
i no this is a old thread but im aving same problem my tongue is yellow and i can scrape stuff off it i read that much that everything linked to hiv but 5 tests later and all negative my gps are stuck on what to do now ive had swabs which sometimes say oral thrush blood tests which say elevated white count and neutrophilis its driving me insane and makes me feel like i dont want to eat
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replied October 14th, 2007
Stress From Uncertainty
I've had similar problems only just recently. Perfectly fine until about 6 months ago. A loose crown led to a series of dental visits including an extraction and a protracted cleaning procedure...no real problems or even tooth aches within the mouth at all before this, just a loose crown...now white tongue. Ear ache a couple of days ago.
One of the problems I have that I feel others here may share is the absolute fear of not knowing what specifically is wrong. As I try to inform myself on the internet, I inevitably scare myself and stress out even more. Making a bad situation much, much worse.
I was never a person that would go to a doctor unless I was really, really sick. Now, I have an appointment tomorrow to deal with recent earache. The question is : Am I falling apart or is my new found obsession about falling apart and documenting it on the internet causing more symptoms?
2 dentists have told me 100% sure nothing unusual going on...why am still I worried about oral cancer....now is oral thrush something that I have to worry about forever...besides its cause where might it lead if...
I may have stressed myself out so completely that I'm affecting myself adversely.
Sorry if this seems like rambling. But, hopeful that everyone here can find the answers and be well .....calmly. Stressing out just makes it worse.
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replied September 14th, 2008
Sore Throat & then white tongue
10 days ago I had a sore spot next to my larnyx, that felt like an ulcer.
I started on Valtrex, an Anti Viral but that didn't take it away. Then my throat began to have the same ulcers on the same side, Left. I went to the ER and they said it wasn't thrush, because I wasn't on antibiotics beforehand, or had a yeast infection. (not that I knew of anyway.) But they couldn't look down my throat far enough to see the sores, so he gave me Vicodin. The pain was so bad that 2 vicodin didn't even help it! I gave up on the narcotics, just cuz I couldn't sleep at night, and they made me feel weird.
I was taking the Vicodin hoping that it was just a virus that had to run it's course. Now it's day 10 and I have devoloped a white tongue. Not the kind you can scrape off, no, it's white tongue!
My throat is SO Painful! red, irregular shaped (pushed forward it looks like), swollen, and I can't swallow even a pill. There is a constant drainage back there, too, but not from my nose. ER Dr. said it was from the membranes breaking down in the throat. I have tried salt water garggling, which helps the painfulness, and coconut milk that stung like crazy! (supposed to be antiviral and antibacterial.) Aloe vera juice a couple times. Nothing is really helping it even. The throat changes almost daily though and now it's to the point that it hurts so bad but nothing can be done. I have been dobbing the throat with Ambosol gel, can you believe it? This only help for 1 hour though. I need a Lidocain rinse to numb me up. Another symptom is No HUNGER. Just pain pain pain.
I am going to see Ear Nose & Throat Dr. tomarrow am, and will have to run some blood tests sounds like for Diabetes, HIV and possibly Mono.
I believe I have a fungus called Cadidiasis, or Yeast Infection in my mouth, but there are complications as well. The ulcers are where it all started, and they are not related to Candidiasis I don't think.

I will let you know what the Dr. says tomarrow.
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