Gordon who the heck do you think you are? Protection is not 100% effective. Yes, ideally their would not be any unwanted pregnancies. But how many rapists do you know who use protection????? And how many people do you actually know who had protected sex and still get pregnant? Because it does happen whether you believe it or not.
And it is not that we "prochoicers have all of the answers" we just have valid points which you do not.
And once again, do you even read? This forum is not to post prolife arguments! It is a place for woman to come and ask medical questions about abortion. Or to ask a woman who has had an abortion what they should expect, it is not a place for you to bash these people, so take it somewhere else!

My point is that abortion should not go ahead whatever the circumstance - that is my belief. Since you brought rape up, let me address that particular issue. Rape is a vile and disgusting crime - but if it results in an unwanted pregnancy, then that baby should be given up for adoption. It is not the childs fault how it was conceived.

No it is not the child's fault, but it is also not the mother's fault. Having to carry a child and give birth to it as a result of that vile act would be even more damaging. Some women do choose to have the baby and keep it and some also choose to give it up for adoption. God bless those women! But not all people can do that. If I fell pregnant as a result of rape, I honestly cannot say that I would be able to carry that child. I really don't think that I could.
So as I said, every circumstance is different. Ideally, yes, everyone would just have the child and give it up for adoption, but at the same time there are so many children out there in the "system" who live their entire lives waiting to be adopted. And a whole lot of them never do find homes.
It is just too complicated an issue to say that it is always wrong, that is my opinion.

Use protection - hmm typical pro life answer - no protection is 100%, rapists do not tend to use it, nor do those who sexually assault children & nor do those who want to have a child but then their circumstances change drastically after they fall pregnant & they beleive that it is in the best interests of all concerned to have an abortion.

There are numreous such situations re the point above but there will always be others as each person faces each difficult situation differently according to their personal circumstances etc. But of course pro lifers ignore everyone except the baby.

As a pro-lifer though I am curious what would you do if you were carrying a child which was found (inutero tests) to be carrying a plague which would kill millions???? I know the answer.

If I found a baby with a disease that would kill millions, I would have it transported to a desert island and let it fend for itself.



gordon drivelbottom has spoken

A baby cannot fend for itself! Do you honestly think that is better than having an abortion?

Good god, I didn't think even you could be such a hypocrite, dump a new baby alone on a desert island to die slowly from exposure & starvation or be eaten by an animal - that's better than an abortion is it??


you are sick.

Did you know that there is only a tiny amount of women who actually become pregnant through rape?
Evidence: surveys of women aborting their babies indicate that 1% of them are doing so because of rape or incest. (source: forrest, j.D. & torres, a. "why do women have abortions?" family planning perspectives).
Since 187,000 abortions are carried out in britain per year & 1.3 million in america and only 1% are due to rape/incest then what do you think the other reasons are?
Evidence: abortions based on the mother's health account for 3% of abortions,
evidence: abortions based on the baby's health account for 3% of abortions
so, the 93% remaining are due to reasons of inconvinience - hardly a good enough reason now is it?

Why do women have abortions? Because men get them pregnant -- contrary to the often heard phrase "got herself pregnant". So any man who disapproves of abortion should absolutely ensure the woman's views on the subject before having sex with her. Using a condom or believing she is on the pill ain't good enough. Best thing is probably to have a vasectomy, just to be sure.

Poopoopoo I love you!!

Ok, ill admit that I was wrong about leaving a baby alone on a desert island. I have since changed my mind and now believe that it should be given to wolves so that they can raise it just like in the jungle book.

That is the first time I have ever admitted that I was wrong.




gordon drivelbottom has spoken

Statistics only account for the people who report things. Most women do not report rape. And not everyone is included in statistics. Only the people who wish to participate.
But anyway, for those 4% that is why it must remain legal.

I'm sorry, but I totally disagree. Abortion is nothing short of homicide. As I have said in another post, if the woman doesnt want a baby, then she should give it up for adoption.

It's so easy for men to be critical of something they will never fully understand.

Yes jesse you are exactly right. They cannot get pregnant, so of course to them adoption is the only option.