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Christians/non-christians?
Posted: 12-27-07 08:07am
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I have a question..
If there where two rooms, one room had 20
Christians in it. And the other room had
20 Non-Christians in it, and you have some
valuable things you needed to leave in one
of the rooms for awhile which room would
you choose?
You don't know any of the people in either
room.
Be honest.
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LainieNY
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Posted: 12-27-07 10:43am
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I don't have a direct answer to that
question. There is a particular sect of
people who I do not trust, I won't state
who, I wouldn't leave anything with
them.
I would trust my instincs (6th sense  ). If the situation
is due to a disaster, where all I had was
my most valuable items, that would be
pictures. I don't think other people would
find pictures, of my loved ones valuable.
To me, everything else can be replace.
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Posted: 12-27-07 10:56am
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I wouldn't leave valuable things in a room
of strangers in all honesty
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Posted: 12-27-07 11:07am
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I wouldn't leave them in either. It's the
person, not the religion, that makes them
honest. Even tho religion should be a
more reliable guide. Besides, Christian
is such a broad category that the question
is too open ended.
It would depend on what I had to leave and
what the religion was.
The 10 commandments, although natural law,
were given to the chosen people for a
reason lol.
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Posted: 12-27-07 11:21am
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what a divisive question.
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Posted: 12-27-07 12:11pm
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A junker parked in a garage does not
automatically become a Mercedes.
If I didn't know you better, meblonde
(since I know your religious affiliation)
I could make a convincing case that you
are trying to paint an unpleasant picture
of people who do not identify as
Christians. It's pretty insulting. Could
you explain more why you would create such
a (as kaerbear said) divisive thread?
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Posted: 12-27-07 12:45pm
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| Birch
wrote: | A junker parked in a garage
does not automatically become a Mercedes.
If I didn't know you better, meblonde
(since I know your religious affiliation)
I could make a convincing case that you
are trying to paint an unpleasant picture
of people who do not identify as
Christians. It's pretty insulting. Could
you explain more why you would create such
a (as kaerbear said) divisive
thread? |
Actually Birch, It was not to be intended
to insult anyone.. There was a segment on
T.V this morning talking about a person
who left something is a church feeling it
would be safe and it was stolen. The T.V
guy wondered how many people thought
leaving something with a Non-Christian
made it any different then leaving it with
a Christian and I was wondering
everyone’s thought? The TV man made the
scenario of 20 people in a room. I guess I
should have worded it different.
I personally don't leave my purse alone in
church or in a restaurant.
No offense meant..
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kaerbear
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Posted: 12-27-07 13:06pm
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i was in church one sunday and during
communion a guy came in and started
wandering around the church furtively. he
was obviously down and out by the looks of
him and he ended up snatching a purse off
of a pew and making a run for the door.
the guy who used to sit behind me (he
died) chased the guy up some stairs and
cornered him by some locked doors. the
police were called but by the time they
got there our priest had prayed with him
and given him five bucks and a can of
tomato soup (lol). she told him please
don't steal anymore and come to services
if he wants to (preferably sober) and gave
him info about the food bank and the
police warned him and let him go. i don't
know how this story relates to this
thread, i was just reminded of it for some
reason. i guess i liked the way it was
dealt with.
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Re: Christians/non-christians?
Posted: 12-27-07 17:38pm
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| meblonde01
wrote: | I have a question..
If there where two rooms, one room had 20
Christians in it. And the other room had
20 Non-Christians in it, and you have some
valuable things you needed to leave in one
of the rooms for awhile which room would
you choose?
You don't know any of the people in either
room.
Be honest. |
Neither. I don't trust people in general
that much no matter religious affliation.
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Posted: 12-27-07 18:21pm
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I was thinking that you could also put
this in the same category as racism. I am
not a racist. I don't judge one person by
what the majority of their race is prone
to do. There are blacks who are violent
and those who are sweet and wonderful and
wouldn't hurt a fly. There is white trash
and then there are perfectly respectable
Caucasians.
I am living in a Christian community and
there are very traditional people living
here, but that doesn't mean I'm not going
to lock my doors at night. Catholics are
Christian, but why do you think they have
confession?
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Coming From a Background of Being Protestant
Posted: 12-27-07 21:35pm
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and converting to being Catholic, there
are some things in my background that are
still within me. Going to Confession is a
sacrament. I have gone maybe twice in my
life. I still feel it is between me and
God and I ask him to forgive me for what I
have done, what I have failed to do and I
ask that I can do better.
Confession at my church is now cut down to
from 4:00 to 4:30 on Saturday. I think it
is God who hears us and what is in our
hearts that we know good and well that we
need to think about.
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Posted: 12-28-07 16:22pm
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Christian doesn't equal pious. They're not
synonymous. I'd judge based on how I felt
about the people in the room.
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Posted: 12-29-07 07:32am
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I have often been to mass and before
communion taken my coat off, put my phone
down ect and left them alone and in plain
sight, nothing has ever been stolen, but
that does not mean nothing ever will,
being Christian does not mean we are
without sin, without weakness or do not
suffer temptation, perhaps we suffer more
than most, perhaps that is why we go to
church, perhaps we are weaker than the
average joe, perhaps we do need a"crutch"
,or perhaps we just realise that all
people do.
I think that is the key, that all people
are weak and prone to temptation, that the
christian tempted to theive and the non
christian tempted to theive both suffer
temptation, both are weak both under there
own steam are likely to steal but it is
because the christian has faith in Christ
that supernatural graces are more likely
to be bestowed upon the Christian - Jesus
said to saint paul ""My grace is
sufficient for you, for my power is made
perfect in weakness." Therefore paul said
"I will boast all the more gladly about my
weaknesses, so that Christ's power may
rest on me"
and that is why i would and do leave my
belonings in Church and why i would never
dream of it in a nightclub, pub, football
stadium.
But who is in the wrong when the theif
steals, am I free from wrong doing, by
leaving my belongings am i not putting
before the theif the temptation?
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Posted: 12-29-07 11:34am
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yeah, i always leave my stuff on the pew
when i go for communion too. i would
rather have them stolen than make the
people in my church think i don't trust
them. the only thing that worries me is
if someone comes in from outside because
there are often street involved people
hanging out waiting for the services to be
over so they can come in and have the
snack and coffee. they might steal
because they are often on drugs or sniff.
but i still leave my stuff. it is just
stuff after all.
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Posted: 12-29-07 13:34pm
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| Gu£st
wrote: | ...
But who is in the wrong when the theif
steals, am I free from wrong doing, by
leaving my belongings am i not putting
before the theif the
temptation? |
Does that mean you share the blame if your
items are stolen?
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Posted: 12-29-07 14:04pm
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If i cause a person to temptation and I
could have avoided that then yes.
If I own a pub and i serve an alcoholic
drink do i not share some blame for his
being an alcoholic
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Same Here
Posted: 12-29-07 14:37pm
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When it is time for communion, that is
what is uppermost in my heart and mind. I
leave my purse on the pew. Interestingly,
it is the really older women who do not.
They hold onto that purse like it is their
lifeline.
But, we live in a very rural, conservative
area. Think Orange County Republicans.
Do I leave my car in the parking lot
unlocked? No. Do I carry every single
credit card that I have in my purse when I
go to church? No. I believe discretion
is the better part of valor.
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Posted: 01-01-08 06:53am
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If you had to choose whether to leave your
nine year old son alone in a room with a
Catholic priest or an atheist, which would
you choose? Be honest.
^See how I did that? I can insist that it
was just a question to satisfy my
curiosity but any devout Catholics reading
it would see it as a slam. It would be
easy enough to excuse it as an innocent
question because rather than just come out
and attack the group (in this example,
Catholics), I'm relying on reputation and
public perception of non-Catholics to
covertly insult them.
If there's a harmless reason for framing a
question like that, you should add a
disclaimer explaining why you're asking
it. Otherwise you shouldn't get surprised
when it's seen as a snark.
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Posted: 01-01-08 13:13pm
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| Gu£st
wrote: | If i cause a person to
temptation and I could have avoided that
then yes.
If I own a pub and i serve an alcoholic
drink do i not share some blame for his
being an
alcoholic |
Wow.
How far does this go? If you own a gun
shop and sell a gun to someone...are you
responsible there?
If you sell a skirt to a woman and she
gets raped, are you responsible there? Is
she?
If you are a Catholic priest and a
homosexual commits suicide because of your
beliefs, are you responsible there?
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