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Q: Alcohol+opiate Withdrawal Questions
asked by: jessewk on December 23rd, 2007
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hi there...ive never done this before so i guess im just going to type away and hope someone responds. i just went sober from both alcohol and oxycontin/vicotin on wednesday afternoon and am just now regaining control of my mind/body. ive spent a lot of time on the computer these last days trying to find information on this...and honestly the best info ive gotten is from others like myself who have faced this.
ive only been able to sleep about 2 hours a day...and the rest of the time...until now...was filled with long bouts of anxiety attacks, numbness of my face and arms, and cramped muscles. this is my first real detox...and its been pretty scary. i wondered if anyone would at least like to let me know what their experiance was, how long it lasted, and when the insomnia went away. heck...itd be nice to just chat about this with someone. i feel better when i talk about it...but my friends dont know what its like...and i have a good feeling if you are reading this, that you do.
---i know denial is the first coping mechanism when you are an alcoholic. i might be one...but ive also heard that people with depression or anxiety cope with it by drinking. is it possible to drink once or twice a week without finding myself in withdrawal or is this it?
im sure i wont be sleeping anytime soon, so please any words of wisdom or any words at all are much appreciated.
-jesse-
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CarolDiane
replied on December 23rd, 2007
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This one is going to be tough. I wish I had better news for you but, I don't. Opiates and Benzo's are the hardest thing to get off of and most usually need rehab. You probably are not going to be able to do this on your own.
Also, did anyone ever tell you that when you are taking these type of narcotics, it actually does not elevate you blood alcohol level. Instead for every drink you have after taking those meds you will feel and act twice as drink as normal. It actually doubles every drink you have.
Driking through withdrawl is not the answer. It will just make it worse. So, do youself a favor and be admitted to a rehab clinic ASAP.

BTW: I am on Klonopin (Benzo) and oxycodone (opiate) for chronic back pain. I watch not to take more then prescribed and I do not drink.
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jessewk
replied on February 2nd, 2008
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to mscarrie
hey...i forgot to get back on here for a while and thank you for replying but i remembered tonight...i actually forgot i wrote that post until now.
i made it! been clean since then...amazing. i didnt seek help but it was the longest 2 weeks of my life. maybe i shouldve...who knows.
anyways...thanks for getting back to me...even tho i went against your advice Smile...
i hope all is well with you and continue to keep helping people...it means more than you know
jesse
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CarolDiane
replied on February 3rd, 2008
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Bravo!
Way da go and ya did it yourself no less. Knew ya could do it. Now keep strong and keep up that nice clean feeling. I will be thinking about ya.

Carrie
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help4j
replied on February 7th, 2008
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opiate withdraw and recovery
Hi anyone,
I have just joined this forum and am not sure how my message will come up or if I am suppose to start a new topic. So please forgive me if I am doing this wrong. I am here because my son is addicted to opiates. Percocets, Oxy, Heroin. I have done so much reading on this addiction and have learned SO much about it. I have calmed myself down and am trying to deal with it now by listening much more to what my son tells me, his feelings, and pain. I have researched hours and hours of information on opiates, withdraw and recovery. Is there anyone out there that would consider talking with me. I feel a bit more informed, but I think by talking to people who have experienced this pain and frustration is the best way to fully understand what he is going through. Sometimes we have a hard time talking, because I am so emotionally involved. He gets frustrated with me.
I am hoping that someone can talk with me....... anyone...?
thanks soooo much .......
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CarolDiane
replied on February 8th, 2008
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help4j
Well, in you case the heroin is going to be the problem. Just like the poster above. Some that have enough well power and have really come to terms that they are ready to go clean can do it on thier own. But, a herion addicted sometimes needs a little more help. Most you see at Meth clinic's are heroin addicts.
How old is your son? If he is over 18, all your really can do is not nag but, give him hope and support and pray that he will come to terms with this addiction and eventually want to help. That is a pretty bad combination of additction he has going there. Just remember, he has to want to be fed up and want to go clean. There is nothing you can do but be there for him. Show him you love him and care about his life. I personally, in research have found that alot of these addictions start with a broken home. Reading you post tells me you are being to over smothering with this. I would tone it down a little as sometimes being to involved will back fire on you. Try and reach a happy medium in communication with him. The heroin will most likely take at least an out patient treatment program.

And yes, it is always better to start your own topic in the future. Get's a little crazy around here and we sometimes miss a post thinking it is the same thread.

All my best to you and your son.
Carrie
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help4j
replied on February 8th, 2008
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Help4j
Hi Carrie, Thanks for your reply and your link to get to this thread. I am still not sure if I was suppose to start a new topic or just post a reply. I am sure either way you will see this.
So my story is a long one, but I will tell you, right now my son is sleeping in his apartment. It is 2:30 in the afternoon. We were suppose to go sign him in to IP Detox yesterday morning, but on the way there, called the facility and they said not to bother until tomorrow, Beds were full. It is tomorrow. I was suppose to pick him up at 6am today, but last night he said he was going to go at 8:30am. Apparently the facility told him not to come until then. Dont know whether to believe that or not. I did not have time to cancel my work related appointment at 11pm last night for this morning. He insisted his girlfriend would take him. Started calling him this morn at 7am No answer til 10:30, they are both still in bed at that time and still in bed last time I called at 12:30pm. Did we lose that window of opportunity? Has he reconsidered? Tonight, according to him, and experience from before, He will begin signs of withdrawing. He says he has not taken anything since Tuesday evening. Again, Do not know what to believe. I am stuck. He is becoming defiant again, 3 days ago he was begging for help. I feel like I want to squeeze my own head so hard and just wait for it to 'pop! Will call him again soon or maybe not......
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tmoore18
replied on March 11th, 2008
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help4j
it is going to be hard to get him back around to wanting help. i am the same addict son. durring christmas i wanted help. still live at home and go to school but my mom had my pills (perscribed) and gave them to me sparingly. when i found them, it was on. i dont remember two entire weekends... but shortly after i realized i wanted help again. the second time i found the pills i couldnt hide it and told my parents i found them and then i went and grabbed them and flushed 100 norco. its hard to sit back and watch but really its out of your hands. he will come back when he gets tired of it, but if it is forced, like my mom tried with me for a few months, it just doesnt work, i had to want it, just like your son is going to have to want it. good luck and keep us updated
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marvin5
replied on March 19th, 2008
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suboxone
suboxone could be the answer for the oxyconton use. this method is safe for withdrawals. I do not think you said how much you are taking, or how you are taking the oxy.

do not drink with it, and a safe detox program is probably the answer for you. Also, check this website for information and get those who love you around you and let them know of your use. Do not do this ALONE. You will not be able to! You are masking other issues that you do not want to deal with by drinking and drugs, and you won't get better without SERIOUS help.

Check out www.oxyabusekills.com/bupe.html for more information about suboxone (subutex, buprenorphine i think the spelling is right) I wish you the best.
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