hi there...ive never done this before so i
guess im just going to type away and hope
someone responds. i just went sober from
both alcohol and oxycontin/vicotin on
wednesday afternoon and am just now
regaining control of my mind/body. ive
spent a lot of time on the computer these
last days trying to find information on
this...and honestly the best info ive
gotten is from others like myself who have
faced this.
ive only been able to sleep about 2 hours
a day...and the rest of the time...until
now...was filled with long bouts of
anxiety attacks, numbness of my face and
arms, and cramped muscles. this is my
first real detox...and its been pretty
scary. i wondered if anyone would at least
like to let me know what their experiance
was, how long it lasted, and when the
insomnia went away. heck...itd be nice to
just chat about this with someone. i feel
better when i talk about it...but my
friends dont know what its like...and i
have a good feeling if you are reading
this, that you do.
---i know denial is the first coping
mechanism when you are an alcoholic. i
might be one...but ive also heard that
people with depression or anxiety cope
with it by drinking. is it possible to
drink once or twice a week without finding
myself in withdrawal or is this it?
im sure i wont be sleeping anytime soon,
so please any words of wisdom or any words
at all are much appreciated.
-jesse-
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 12-23-07 07:20am
This one is going to be tough. I wish I
had better news for you but, I don't.
Opiates and Benzo's are the hardest thing
to get off of and most usually need rehab.
You probably are not going to be able to
do this on your own.
Also, did anyone ever tell you that when
you are taking these type of narcotics, it
actually does not elevate you blood
alcohol level. Instead for every drink you
have after taking those meds you will feel
and act twice as drink as normal. It
actually doubles every drink you have.
Driking through withdrawl is not the
answer. It will just make it worse. So, do
youself a favor and be admitted to a rehab
clinic ASAP.
BTW: I am on Klonopin (Benzo) and
oxycodone (opiate) for chronic back pain.
I watch not to take more then prescribed
and I do not drink.
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jessewk
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Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 2
to mscarrie Posted: 02-02-08 22:56pm
hey...i forgot to get back on here for a
while and thank you for replying but i
remembered tonight...i actually forgot i
wrote that post until now.
i made it! been clean since
then...amazing. i didnt seek help but it
was the longest 2 weeks of my life. maybe
i shouldve...who knows.
anyways...thanks for getting back to
me...even tho i went against your advice
...
i hope all is well with you and continue
to keep helping people...it means more
than you know
jesse
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CarolDiane
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Bravo! Posted: 02-03-08 08:30am
Way da go and ya did it yourself no less.
Knew ya could do it. Now keep strong and
keep up that nice clean feeling. I will be
thinking about ya.
Carrie
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help4j
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Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 6
opiate withdraw and recovery Posted: 02-07-08 16:53pm
Hi anyone,
I have just joined this forum and am not
sure how my message will come up or if I
am suppose to start a new topic. So please
forgive me if I am doing this wrong. I am
here because my son is addicted to
opiates. Percocets, Oxy, Heroin. I have
done so much reading on this addiction and
have learned SO much about it. I have
calmed myself down and am trying to deal
with it now by listening much more to what
my son tells me, his feelings, and pain. I
have researched hours and hours of
information on opiates, withdraw and
recovery. Is there anyone out there that
would consider talking with me. I feel a
bit more informed, but I think by talking
to people who have experienced this pain
and frustration is the best way to fully
understand what he is going through.
Sometimes we have a hard time talking,
because I am so emotionally involved. He
gets frustrated with me.
I am hoping that someone can talk with
me....... anyone...?
thanks soooo much .......
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CarolDiane
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help4j Posted: 02-08-08 02:23am
Well, in you case the heroin is going to
be the problem. Just like the poster
above. Some that have enough well power
and have really come to terms that they
are ready to go clean can do it on thier
own. But, a herion addicted sometimes
needs a little more help. Most you see at
Meth clinic's are heroin addicts.
How old is your son? If he is over 18, all
your really can do is not nag but, give
him hope and support and pray that he will
come to terms with this addiction and
eventually want to help. That is a pretty
bad combination of additction he has going
there. Just remember, he has to want to be
fed up and want to go clean. There is
nothing you can do but be there for him.
Show him you love him and care about his
life. I personally, in research have found
that alot of these addictions start with a
broken home. Reading you post tells me you
are being to over smothering with this. I
would tone it down a little as sometimes
being to involved will back fire on you.
Try and reach a happy medium in
communication with him. The heroin will
most likely take at least an out patient
treatment program.
And yes, it is always better to start your
own topic in the future. Get's a little
crazy around here and we sometimes miss a
post thinking it is the same thread.
All my best to you and your son.
Carrie
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help4j
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Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 6
Help4j Posted: 02-08-08 14:37pm
Hi Carrie, Thanks for your reply and your
link to get to this thread. I am still not
sure if I was suppose to start a new topic
or just post a reply. I am sure either way
you will see this.
So my story is a long one, but I will tell
you, right now my son is sleeping in his
apartment. It is 2:30 in the afternoon. We
were suppose to go sign him in to IP Detox
yesterday morning, but on the way there,
called the facility and they said not to
bother until tomorrow, Beds were full. It
is tomorrow. I was suppose to pick him up
at 6am today, but last night he said he
was going to go at 8:30am. Apparently the
facility told him not to come until then.
Dont know whether to believe that or not.
I did not have time to cancel my work
related appointment at 11pm last night for
this morning. He insisted his girlfriend
would take him. Started calling him this
morn at 7am No answer til 10:30, they are
both still in bed at that time and still
in bed last time I called at 12:30pm. Did
we lose that window of opportunity? Has he
reconsidered? Tonight, according to him,
and experience from before, He will begin
signs of withdrawing. He says he has not
taken anything since Tuesday evening.
Again, Do not know what to believe. I am
stuck. He is becoming defiant again, 3
days ago he was begging for help. I feel
like I want to squeeze my own head so hard
and just wait for it to 'pop! Will call
him again soon or maybe not......
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tmoore18
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help4j Posted: 03-11-08 21:28pm
it is going to be hard to get him back
around to wanting help. i am the same
addict son. durring christmas i wanted
help. still live at home and go to school
but my mom had my pills (perscribed) and
gave them to me sparingly. when i found
them, it was on. i dont remember two
entire weekends... but shortly after i
realized i wanted help again. the second
time i found the pills i couldnt hide it
and told my parents i found them and then
i went and grabbed them and flushed 100
norco. its hard to sit back and watch but
really its out of your hands. he will come
back when he gets tired of it, but if it
is forced, like my mom tried with me for a
few months, it just doesnt work, i had to
want it, just like your son is going to
have to want it. good luck and keep us
updated
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marvin5
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Joined: 19 Mar 2008 Posts: 18 Location: ,
suboxone Posted: 03-19-08 14:40pm
suboxone could be the answer for the
oxyconton use. this method is safe for
withdrawals. I do not think you said how
much you are taking, or how you are taking
the oxy.
do not drink with it, and a safe detox
program is probably the answer for you.
Also, check this website for information
and get those who love you around you and
let them know of your use. Do not do this
ALONE. You will not be able to! You are
masking other issues that you do not want
to deal with by drinking and drugs, and
you won't get better without SERIOUS help.
Check out www.oxyabusekills.com/bupe
.html for more information about
suboxone (subutex, buprenorphine i think
the spelling is right) I wish you the
best.
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