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Alpha Intrusion - Fibromyalgia.
Posted: 12-21-07 20:03pm

It's happening again - darn fibro symptoms I have had three sleep studies and all showed that I have severe alpha intrusion and also go from stage one sleep to REM within five to ten minutes. For the average person, it usually takes 60 to 90 minutes to complete one sleep cycle.
When I go through these episodes, I have about eight dreams in one night and upon waking, I have severe fibro symptoms. I don't experience this all the time, especially during pregnancy. I was PERFECT during pregnancy until now... six months post partum.

This just stinks. My body is in PAIN! My sleep paralysis is starting to come back as well. Thank goodness I don't have daytime cataplexy.

I am so darn tired of experiencing this. I will now have to go in for ANOTHER sleep study because my other two were in different states. My condition forces me to find a sleep specialist who will work with me and requires me to get long term treatment. I do have a psychiatrist as well.

I wish I were normal!! Sad
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Posted: 12-24-07 06:05am

When you were diagnosed with fibromyalgia?
Have you been prescribed some meds like antidepressants or muscle relaxants?

Up to 80% of people with fibromyalgia experience some type of disordered sleep.
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Posted: 12-26-07 14:04pm

About four years ago, I started to have those fibro symptoms. I was borderline for fibro meaning that I was two pressure points away from being dx complete fibro. If I had gone in a few weeks later when I couldn't get out of bed, I would have hit all the pressure points for dx. It varies.

Antidepressants don't work for me. Actually, most of them are shown to disrupt the stages of sleep I lack. It makes me worse. Seroquel used to help me with sleep but now it makes the fibro worse. I believe that individuals who have fibro actually have a sleep disorder that causes it. Those people don't have enough stage two or three sleep (forget which one) and a lot of alpha intrusions during REM sleep that makes it hard for the body to get the restful sleep it needs. Thus, those people like myself wake up with sore muscles.

I never took any muscle relaxants darn it. That probably would help! I am in such PAIN right now, I can hardly stand it. I am breastfeeding and really don't want to stop. I may have to because my condition is getting worse by the day.

You said 80%. I would think it would be a lot higher than that. Where did you get that information? I strongly think that people who have fibro symptoms should see a sleep specialist. I would like to know if anyone has fibro and has had a sleep test that shows they do not suffer from a sleep disorder.

I knew a psychiatrist in Arizona that was good friends with a major sleep specialist doing research in this area. I don't think the results are out. I can't wait to see what they come up with.

Do you experience fibro?
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Posted: 01-15-08 05:33am

No, I'm not experiencing fibro, but years ago I was experiencing sleep paralysis and i think stress and not regular sleep pattern was cause of that.
Can you relate your relapse of sleep problems with the fact that as a mother of a baby you have interrupted sleep?

You are right that Alph EEG anomaly can be a possible cause of fibromyalgia.
There are medical sources that state the same, that this sleep disorder may actually be a cause of fibromyalgia because so many fibromyalgia sufferers have it.
Fibromyalgia patients appear to undergo less deep sleep, once they reach deep sleep, their brains begin to act like they are awake (alpha EEG anomaly) and this lack of deep sleep may be what is behind the main symptoms of fibromyalgia.

How do you feel these days?
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Posted: 01-21-08 04:04am

i am very interested in this connection. since the onset of the fibro i have become convinced that there is a connection between that and the apnea. there is much to learn.

anti-inflammatories (ketoprefen) made the pain ten times worse. i also learned the hard way to avoid nightshade vegetables.

MCW
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Hi, mrcholmondlywarner!
Posted: 02-13-08 04:53am

There are some informations about connection between nightshade vegetables and arthritis. Some individuals have noticed that nightshade vegetables can trigger arthritis flares.
Patients with FMS often suffer from associated diseases and the most common is Rheumatoid Arthritis (12% of FMS sufferers).
Do you have coexisting arthritis?
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