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It's happening again - darn fibro symptoms I have had three sleep studies and all showed that I have severe alpha intrusion and also go from stage one sleep to REM within five to ten minutes. For the average person, it usually takes 60 to 90 minutes to complete one sleep cycle.
When I go through these episodes, I have about eight dreams in one night and upon waking, I have severe fibro symptoms. I don't experience this all the time, especially during pregnancy. I was PERFECT during pregnancy until now... six months post partum.

This just stinks. My body is in PAIN! My sleep paralysis is starting to come back as well. Thank goodness I don't have daytime cataplexy.

I am so darn tired of experiencing this. I will now have to go in for ANOTHER sleep study because my other two were in different states. My condition forces me to find a sleep specialist who will work with me and requires me to get long term treatment. I do have a psychiatrist as well.

I wish I were normal!! Sad
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replied December 24th, 2007
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When you were diagnosed with fibromyalgia?
Have you been prescribed some meds like antidepressants or muscle relaxants?

Up to 80% of people with fibromyalgia experience some type of disordered sleep.
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replied December 26th, 2007
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About four years ago, I started to have those fibro symptoms. I was borderline for fibro meaning that I was two pressure points away from being dx complete fibro. If I had gone in a few weeks later when I couldn't get out of bed, I would have hit all the pressure points for dx. It varies.

Antidepressants don't work for me. Actually, most of them are shown to disrupt the stages of sleep I lack. It makes me worse. Seroquel used to help me with sleep but now it makes the fibro worse. I believe that individuals who have fibro actually have a sleep disorder that causes it. Those people don't have enough stage two or three sleep (forget which one) and a lot of alpha intrusions during REM sleep that makes it hard for the body to get the restful sleep it needs. Thus, those people like myself wake up with sore muscles.

I never took any muscle relaxants darn it. That probably would help! I am in such PAIN right now, I can hardly stand it. I am breastfeeding and really don't want to stop. I may have to because my condition is getting worse by the day.

You said 80%. I would think it would be a lot higher than that. Where did you get that information? I strongly think that people who have fibro symptoms should see a sleep specialist. I would like to know if anyone has fibro and has had a sleep test that shows they do not suffer from a sleep disorder.

I knew a psychiatrist in Arizona that was good friends with a major sleep specialist doing research in this area. I don't think the results are out. I can't wait to see what they come up with.

Do you experience fibro?
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replied January 15th, 2008
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No, I'm not experiencing fibro, but years ago I was experiencing sleep paralysis and i think stress and not regular sleep pattern was cause of that.
Can you relate your relapse of sleep problems with the fact that as a mother of a baby you have interrupted sleep?

You are right that Alph EEG anomaly can be a possible cause of fibromyalgia.
There are medical sources that state the same, that this sleep disorder may actually be a cause of fibromyalgia because so many fibromyalgia sufferers have it.
Fibromyalgia patients appear to undergo less deep sleep, once they reach deep sleep, their brains begin to act like they are awake (alpha EEG anomaly) and this lack of deep sleep may be what is behind the main symptoms of fibromyalgia.

How do you feel these days?
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replied January 21st, 2008
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i am very interested in this connection. since the onset of the fibro i have become convinced that there is a connection between that and the apnea. there is much to learn.

anti-inflammatories (ketoprefen) made the pain ten times worse. i also learned the hard way to avoid nightshade vegetables.

MCW
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replied February 13th, 2008
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Hi, mrcholmondlywarner!
There are some informations about connection between nightshade vegetables and arthritis. Some individuals have noticed that nightshade vegetables can trigger arthritis flares.
Patients with FMS often suffer from associated diseases and the most common is Rheumatoid Arthritis (12% of FMS sufferers).
Do you have coexisting arthritis?
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replied July 6th, 2009
Anyone treid Xyrem (GHB)?
Has anyone been on Xyrem (GHB) for fibro? It's very expensive...like $1,000 a month. For a time my insurance covered it (UHC), now Aetna doesn't. GHB was widely available in health food stores until in the 80s when date rape emerged as a hazard of it.
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replied March 10th, 2010
Alpha Intrusion is serious.....
I have had CFIDS for years and got measured with severe alpha intrusion; 2 sleep studies. The doctor who gave the sleep studies said he had no cure.

First I asked my primary care physician to test me for ADHD by perscribing Aderall. This helped my body and mind normalize in a few areas including sleep.

I then went to a psychiatrist who diagnosed me with bi-polarism. She perscribed Seraquel and depakote. Much of my alpha intrusion left but I still get restless leg which drives me up a wall. Perhaps my bi-polarism is expressed by sleep disfunction. I am soon going to do another sleep test if I can get insurance to pay.

That's where I am at this point. Oh yeah I seem to have come down with lymphoma a few months ago. This is all serious stuff and links between epstein barr and lymphoma are on the internet to read about. It's all too much.

Peter
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