the Global Warming Debate Posted: 12-21-07 13:49pm
Most people can agree the Globe is
warming. But what is causing this? For the
past ten or so years, CO2 has been blamed
and in conjunction, the human race. The
research below isn't new. It has been
silenced. You've never heard these things
before, because these scientists were
banned from the UN Climate Hearings. These
scientists are not debating the existence
of Global Warming. They dispute the human
influence. It's good research and it makes
a heck of a lot of sense. I was a huge
global warming activist, but always with
the true skeptic's mind. It took me a long
time to be convinced by the research. Now
I see I may not have been wrong after all.
It's strange to think that the 10th grade
paper I wrote 8 years ago is suddenly
relevant again I got a C on that
paper because it didn't "jive" with the
liberal agenda. I know how these
scientists feel.
That's a very interesting study and
webpage. I also did not know that there
was a minority page and a majority page
like that. Thank you for posting it.
I read a little ways down on the minority
page and found the article that states
that any attempt to change the pattern of
global warming as it continues to unfold
is "futile" and the UN should..."equip
nations to become resilient to the full
range of these natural phenomena by
promoting economic growth and wealth
generation." I'll leave it up to
whomever to interpret that as they may.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 12-21-07 21:59pm
Yeah, there's a lot of information on it.
I haven't read all of it yet myself; it's
a several day process or I just get over
loaded XD
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marvel
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Posted: 12-21-07 22:42pm
Very Interesting, Eiri. I had heard of
this before, but was unsure if it was
legit.
I still think the 'green' movement is a
good one. It can't be good for us to be
spouting out all those toxins in the
air... why not find alternatives?
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Birch
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Posted: 12-21-07 23:37pm
marvel
wrote:
I still think the 'green' movement is a
good one. It can't be good for us to be
spouting out all those toxins in the
air... why not find
alternatives?
Amen to that.
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Posted: 12-22-07 07:49am
The climate of this planet has changed
many many times over its history; the
latest 'ice age' occured in medieval
europe; now we are on a warming trend;
again that happens alot too.
I found a great web site Here about
climate change from a very reputable
source. I think going green; conserving
our resources; using renewable resources;
using the sun and wind for power are all
great ideas. Lets keep our planet green.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 12-22-07 10:05am
marvel
wrote:
Very Interesting, Eiri. I
had heard of this before, but was unsure
if it was legit.
I still think the 'green' movement is a
good one. It can't be good for us to be
spouting out all those toxins in the
air... why not find
alternatives?
Oh I agree we should be looking for
alternatives. We just don't need to waste
money forcing people to reduce emissions.
We should do it anyway, but I heard a
nasty rumor that the green movement
intended to redistribute the world's money
somehow. Don't know if I believe it but
throwing it out there. I'd need more
research and proof of that.
There are interesting facts about Kyoto
and the countries involved. From what I've
seen, the countries that signed have
actually increased their CO2
emissions the most since the singing, and
America has increased less!
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Tylanas
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Posted: 12-22-07 10:07am
Neat site Jinks!!
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kaerbear
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Posted: 12-23-07 09:14am
Birch
wrote:
I read a little ways down on
the minority page and found the article
that states that any attempt to change the
pattern of global warming as it continues
to unfold is "futile" and the UN
should..."equip nations to become
resilient to the full range of these
natural phenomena by promoting economic
growth and wealth generation." I'll
leave it up to whomever to interpret that
as they may.
EXACTLY
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Posted: 12-23-07 14:30pm
I just had a conversation about this this
morning with my mother who is never really
much of an alarmist, but apparantly she
has been up for a couple of days, unable
to sleep because she is thinking about how
drastically we would have to change to
create the impact needed to reverse this
process. She believes, as i do, that many
many people will simply be unwilling to
make the changes needed, which will indeed
be sweeping and drastic and by the time
people are ready to come around, it will
be far too late. I ssadly imagine an
apocyliptic (sp??) future where those who
have FOOD are the ones who are wealthy,
while those unable to eek out an existence
will panic and begin looting, killing, and
rioting to get what they need. I am very
sad, because I believe this is the
inevitable path if people don't take some
serious steps away from the present
course. Unfortunately, I don't have much
faith in mankind from what i have seen
thus far. I feel sad that my children
will have a very different future from
what we have had in the past century.
Doesn't it blow your mid how many changes
have occurred in the last 200 years as far
as automation and technology that has
brought people so far away from the
simplest survival issues such as the
ability to grow one's own food and
preserve it, how to find water, how to
cook over a fire, etc etc? It's mind
boggling to me.
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kaerbear
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Posted: 12-23-07 16:05pm
sillyakchick
wrote:
I just had a conversation
about this this morning with my mother who
is never really much of an alarmist, but
apparantly she has been up for a couple of
days, unable to sleep because she is
thinking about how drastically we would
have to change to create the impact needed
to reverse this process. She believes, as
i do, that many many people will simply be
unwilling to make the changes needed,
which will indeed be sweeping and drastic
and by the time people are ready to come
around, it will be far too late. I ssadly
imagine an apocyliptic (sp??) future where
those who have FOOD are the ones who are
wealthy, while those unable to eek out an
existence will panic and begin looting,
killing, and rioting to get what they
need. I am very sad, because I believe
this is the inevitable path if people
don't take some serious steps away from
the present course. Unfortunately, I
don't have much faith in mankind from what
i have seen thus far. I feel sad that my
children will have a very different future
from what we have had in the past century.
Doesn't it blow your mid how many changes
have occurred in the last 200 years as far
as automation and technology that has
brought people so far away from the
simplest survival issues such as the
ability to grow one's own food and
preserve it, how to find water, how to
cook over a fire, etc etc? It's mind
boggling to
me.
that's really too bad about your mom. i
know where she is coming from though. it
seems so hopeless sometimes. i read this
awesome book by david suzuki. i seriuosly
can't recommend it enough. it's about
finding hope in this situation. i adore
david suzuki. the book is called sacred
balance. i found an exerpt here:
I got a C on that
paper because it didn't "jive" with the
liberal agenda. I know how these
scientists feel.
