Pro-choice, Anti-choice, Pro-life And Pro-abortion

People know in their hearts what they are, so it really doesn't matter!

Well what bothers me is that due to these labels, you kind of feel like you HAVE to adopt the popular ideals of the "name" you choose. As a pro-choicer, I'm supposed to approve of the woman's choice no matter what it is. Well unfortunately, due to my knowledge of gestation, I cannot possibly approve of a voluntary late-term abortion. In other cases, like the 14 year old who's pregnant on the teen boards, I feel that even though her pregnancy was intended she should really abort it asap. It's not fair or healthy for her or the baby.

I believe that you have said before that late term abortions are not your cup of tea, either. Maybe we could add another label to the table- "conditionary prochoice"?

I know urban dictionary isn't anywhere close to a reliable source, but it does give an indication of how these labels are viewed in society.

Here's pro-abortion:
1. One step beyond pro-choice. Polar opposite of pro-life. Origin: I hate sharing my {edit} with my younger siblings. I wish those {edits} would have been aborted.

2. The popular belief that abortion is a very affective & usefull means of curbing overpopulation. Abortion is prevention.
Pro-abortionists unlike pro-choicers believe that abortion should be mandatory if you have had more than your fair shair of kids.

And Anti-choice:

1. A person who claims to be pro-life despite the fact that they disregard other forms of terminating as being ok.
Anti-choice supporters are ok with such forms homicide such as War and Capital Punishment.

2. A more accurate title for someone who claims to be "pro-life".
One who believes the fate of an unborn fetus is more important than a woman's life.
One who thinks people should not be able to make choices about their own bodies and lives, but thinks the government should control this matter.
Ironically, they are usually also Republicans, a party that's supposed to be against government-controlled things. They also usually favor the death penalty, oppose education funds - basically they only care about children until they are born. They have been known to create organizations that try to convince/force women to keep pregnancies until birth, and once the child is born they kick them out and forget about them.
Anti-choicers also usually oppose contraceptives, birth control and realistic sex education, despite the fact that they prevent countless unwanted pregnancies.

3. One who is against abortion. The opposite of one who is anti-life.

Just food for thought.

Dictionary is but one way to define a word. I've proven this with the words 'human' and 'gay' which have an entirely different defination; more commonly accepted actually, then the dictionary definition.
Why do you keep returning to dictionary definitions? Is your arguement so hollow?

Well of course they've banded together.

No, we haven't. I like his no-nonsense, deadpn approach to the matter. No fumbling around in fantasies, just gets to the point. We haven't "banded together", as you put it; it would be difficult given that he's anti-choice and I'm pro-abortion. Nonetheless, it doesn't mean that we are separated on every matter, as Jincks would have you believe. I recently signed a petition to remove the British troops from Iraq, but it was organised by the Socialist Party. I am not a socialist (far from it), but I still signed because the pragmatics were irrelevant. It's the same thing with me and yoda. I'm sure you'll come across future threads in which we bickerand disagree! I've agreed and disagreed with you, Eiri, in the past, it's the nature of debate. I don't hate anybody here, but I think a couple "have it in for me" for not comforming to the widespread pro-choice phenomenon that is "invent-a-word".

Regardless of what the dictionary says a word means, if someone says they are offended at being called that word and the person doing the calling continues to do so, then s/he is doing it to insult and offend. Otherwise, they'd stop out of consideration of the person's feelings.

Another thing - I've had people call me pro abortion and then when they find out it doesn't bother me, they've called me pro-death instead. In that case, they obviously were doing it to offend.

Now, regarding the issue of being pro choice but not pro abortion. Yes, people can be so, especially if they look upon the term pro-abortion as being in favour of abortion (not the legality, the procedure). I think prostitution should be legal but I am not pro-prostitution; I think smoking should be legal but I am not pro-smoking. In fact, I despise it.

Finally, I am going to say that definitions of words can and do change with the times. The dictionary is merely a listing of the common meanings of words. It is by no means the be all and end all of definitions. For example, the word "gay" used to mean happy, now it also means "homosexual".