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Q: I Think..
asked by: Sandbox Party on December 17th, 2007
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I finally understand the PC view more.

Basically, PC'ers don't ADVOCATE abortions.. they don't think everyone should have one, they just feel (and most of the time in more cases involving things other than abortion) that no one should have the right to tell ME what to do with MY body. Same as when somebody tries to tell me how to run my life.. Who the hell are they to tell me what to do? WHAT RIGHT DO THEY THINK THEY HAVE!?

And i agree.. mostly.
Being a devoted PL'er will never stop abortions.. being a devoted PC'er wont either. People need to just come together and try to form one common view and not segregate themselves into two different groups or classifications.. The more educated people are in things such as abstinence and protection, the more responsible people act, and the better off both sides would be.
Women shouldn't have to worry about somebody saying what they can and cant do with their bodies.. after all, it is their body, no one else's.

Make sense?
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sistersister
replied on December 17th, 2007
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There are more points of agreement for most peolpe than the debate would indicate. I do think that someday there will be compromise and for the Country as a whole we will come together.

I see myself as a devoted prochoicer and I for one would love to see the time when abortion is safe accesable and very very rare.

I think as someone looking at the oppisite side that for right now the drive is to control women not enable them. I honestly believe that will not result in fewer abortion simply riskier ones.

Education, birthcontrol and raising the opportunities for young women will go much further to preventing unplanned pregnancies than preaching that pregnancy is the punishment for women who have sex.

Most of all young girls must be taught that they have value and worth in themselves and apart from how some male relates to them. Thats worded baddly. What I'm trying to say is that every yung woman should see her self as complete in of herself so that she does not cave in to the preassure of some male in an atempt to get his aproval.

As for abortion ever being completely unnecessary, that will never happen becuase we will always have fetal anomalies and health and life risk type complications to pregnant women.
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Birch
replied on December 17th, 2007
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sistersister wrote:


As for abortion ever being completely unnecessary, that will never happen becuase we will always have fetal anomalies and health and life risk type complications to pregnant women.


...And until BC is perfected, there will also always be women who simply do not want children. They have chosen childfree lifestyles and prefer not to gestate.
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Darkmoon
replied on December 17th, 2007
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I'd say that's a pretty fair interpretation, Sandy Pants. There's more to it but I think you've grasped the core principle of what most prochoicers fight for. Good on you for keeping an open mind.
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Tylanas
replied on December 17th, 2007
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I assume Sandy is now known as sistersister or something? Everyone keeps talking to sandy pants but I don't see any sandy.
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Sandbox Party
replied on December 17th, 2007
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lol what?
Nah i just got back Smile
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Tylanas
replied on December 17th, 2007
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It's just confusing because I've seen like three threads where sister is posting, people are saying sandy, and I look back, back back and can't find you XD
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Sandbox Party
replied on December 17th, 2007
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lol im sorry.. my kids keep my on my toes and i cant keep up with where i post!
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Jules
replied on December 18th, 2007
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Sandy and sistersister are definitely not the same person Wink
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meblonde01
replied on December 18th, 2007
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Jules wrote:
Sandy and sistersister are definitely not the same person Wink


For sure!!
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yodavater
replied on December 18th, 2007
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sistersister wrote:

I see myself as a devoted prochoicer and I for one would love to see the time when abortion is safe accesable and very very rare..

Interestingly, making abortion more "accessible" seems to have made it more common, not more rare.

Haven't you noticed that?
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sistersister
replied on December 18th, 2007
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Making sex education and birthcontrol more accessable will make it more rare. Keeping it accessable has nothing to do with either encourageing it or discourageing it. legal Assessability does have to do with making it safer and regulated.

It is simply that now women do not have to go to back alley butchers, inexperienced med students or other countries.

No I have not noticed it becoming more common. Could you show me the stats that show it is now more common (you brought it up first) When what I read is that the number of abortions is on the decline in this country. So you show me your stats and I'll counter with mine.
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Sandbox Party
replied on December 18th, 2007
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yodavater wrote:
sistersister wrote:

I see myself as a devoted prochoicer and I for one would love to see the time when abortion is safe accesable and very very rare..

Interestingly, making abortion more "accessible" seems to have made it more common, not more rare.

Haven't you noticed that?


actually it hasn't.
Each year the rate of abortions declines and has been since Roe Vs. Wade.
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meblonde01
replied on December 18th, 2007
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Declines? There are less abortions now with it legal then there was before?
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Sandbox Party
replied on December 18th, 2007
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meblonde01 wrote:
Declines? There are less abortions now with it legal then there was before?


haha i meant illegal.

*smacks forehead*
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meblonde01
replied on December 18th, 2007
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Sandy_Pants wrote:
meblonde01 wrote:
Declines? There are less abortions now with it legal then there was before?


haha i meant illegal.

*smacks forehead*


K.. I was wondering HUMMMMM? Smile
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Sandbox Party
replied on December 18th, 2007
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sorry.. sleep deprivation getting the best of me.
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Jincks013
replied on December 18th, 2007
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yodavater wrote:
sistersister wrote:

I see myself as a devoted prochoicer and I for one would love to see the time when abortion is safe accesable and very very rare..

Interestingly, making abortion more "accessible" seems to have made it more common, not more rare.

Haven't you noticed that?


I've also noted making it illegal isn't decreasing it either.
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meblonde01
replied on December 19th, 2007
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Jincks013 wrote:
yodavater wrote:
sistersister wrote:

I see myself as a devoted prochoicer and I for one would love to see the time when abortion is safe accesable and very very rare..

Interestingly, making abortion more "accessible" seems to have made it more common, not more rare.

Haven't you noticed that?


I've also noted making it illegal isn't decreasing it either.


noted where?
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Sandbox Party
replied on December 19th, 2007
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Jincks013 wrote:
yodavater wrote:
sistersister wrote:

I see myself as a devoted prochoicer and I for one would love to see the time when abortion is safe accesable and very very rare..

Interestingly, making abortion more "accessible" seems to have made it more common, not more rare.

Haven't you noticed that?


I've also noted making it illegal isn't decreasing it either.


uh.. ok.
making things illegal makes it harder to obtain, such as drugs.
YES you can still get them, but it isn't widely available, and there are serious legal repercussions for those that get or use it.
If abortion were available to those that need it for health reasons i think it would open people's eyes and make them realize there isn't an easy way out of everything and to be more responsible when it comes to sex.
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