Ohio women could be asked to look at an
ultrasound picture before getting an
abortion, and retired veterans would no
longer pay state income tax on their
pensions under bills that saw action
yesterday in the legislature's final
session of 2007.
...
Legislative leaders cleared some leftovers
off their plates before leaving for a
nearly four-week holiday break.
The abortion bill drew no floor debate in
the House and was passed on a bipartisan
72-18 vote.
Rep. Shannon Jones, R-Springboro, said
allowing a woman to view an ultrasound
before having an abortion "would allow her
to make a more informed decision."
"If you set aside the value of the
innocent, unborn child for the sake of
this discussion, choosing elective surgery
of any kind is no small decision."
The bill does not mandate that an
ultrasound be performed, nor that a woman
be required to look at it.***** The bill
now goes to the Senate.
*****Honestly, I'm not even sure what the
point of this is, but Rep. Shannon Jones
is a ignoramus. Maybe by her reasoning we
should show MRI scans for vasectomies,
appendix removals, tonsils, bariactric
surgeries, you pick it. I'd have more
respect for her and other lawmakers if
they were honest with their intentions.
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JacobRyan
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 142 Location: Ohio,
Posted: 12-15-07 12:24pm
"allowing a woman to view an ultrasound
before having an abortion 'would allow her
to make a more informed decision.'"
Woman: "What? There is a baby in there?
Oh, ok, nevermind."
Sounds like a very ineffective way to
guilt trip people.
YAY FOR OHIO! I'm getting out of here as
soon as I can.
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lucy315
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Posted: 12-15-07 18:07pm
Any woman who is having an abortion knows
exactly what is inside of her and what she
is doing. Most probably did a lot of
research before the procedure anyway. I
was aware that at 5 1/2 weeks the embryo
was only about 2mm long. I highly doubt
that a picture of it at this stage would
have had any effect on my decision at all.
If a woman decides not to abort after
seeing the ultrasound picture, that is
fine with me. It probably means she
didn't really want to do it in the first
place.
But I do have a question. Would she be
viewing her OWN ultrasound, or just a
random one? An ultrasound at 12 weeks
probably looks a bit different then one at
6 weeks. Or will it be a picture of a
developed fetus? Just curious.
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 12-16-07 10:49am
I would imagine seeing an ultrasound of a
5 week fetus might put you off having
tandoori prawns for dinner.
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yodavater
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 818
Posted: 12-16-07 14:10pm
JacobRyan
wrote:
Woman: "What? There is a baby in there?
Oh, ok, nevermind."
.
Hmm.... interesting.... I seem to get into
a debate with proaborts quite often about
whether a fetus or embryo IS a "baby"...
but I'm glad you have no doubt in your
mind.
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JacobRyan
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 142 Location: Ohio,
Posted: 12-16-07 18:01pm
yodavater
wrote:
JacobRyan
wrote:
Woman: "What? There is a baby in there?
Oh, ok, nevermind."
.
Hmm.... interesting.... I seem to get into
a debate with proaborts quite often about
whether a fetus or embryo IS a "baby"...
but I'm glad you have no doubt in your
mind.
Ah, well, it worked for the gag! It wasn't
something I expected anyone to call me on.
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xphile_1002
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 32 Location: , Ohio United States
Re: Ohio Bill On Viewing U/s Posted: 12-16-07 18:36pm
Birch
wrote:
My home state...making me
proud.
Lawmakers push through veterans, abortion
bills
Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:35 AM
By Jim Siegel
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
Ohio women could be asked to look at an
ultrasound picture before getting an
abortion, and retired veterans would no
longer pay state income tax on their
pensions under bills that saw action
yesterday in the legislature's final
session of 2007.
...
Legislative leaders cleared some leftovers
off their plates before leaving for a
nearly four-week holiday break.
The abortion bill drew no floor debate in
the House and was passed on a bipartisan
72-18 vote.
Rep. Shannon Jones, R-Springboro, said
allowing a woman to view an ultrasound
before having an abortion "would allow her
to make a more informed decision."
"If you set aside the value of the
innocent, unborn child for the sake of
this discussion, choosing elective surgery
of any kind is no small decision."
The bill does not mandate that an
ultrasound be performed, nor that a woman
be required to look at it.***** The bill
now goes to the Senate.
*****Honestly, I'm not even sure what the
point of this is, but Rep. Shannon Jones
is a ignoramus. Maybe by her reasoning we
should show MRI scans for vasectomies,
appendix removals, tonsils, bariactric
surgeries, you pick it. I'd have more
respect for her and other lawmakers if
they were honest with their
intentions.
Totally off topic, but where in Ohio are
you from? I'm from Columbus.
