You won't find anyone that is truly prochoice supporting forced abortions. People that do are like reversed prolifers-they want to force a reproductive path on someone against their will. This sort of person could be accurately described as "proabortion".

I'm as against forced abortion as I am forced incubation and I find them both to be equally revolting practices that should be done away with forever. There are times when I wish mandatory sterilization for rapists, child abusers, misogynists and government aid abusers could be practiced but that's about as close as I've ever come to considering any form of compulsory reproductive interference remotely acceptable. Though at times my anger makes me wish it I would never follow through with my feelings and try to make them into law, because it would make me no better than advocates for forced birth or forced abortion.

(A wee tiny point, but you'd have to specifically say "mother".

I know women get abortions without the consent of the father, which if one was picky, under your definition would be a forced abortion against parent and has all kinds of implications.

But I digress...)

I would never advocate for a forced abortion under any circumstance.

I figured it went without saying, since men don't get pregnant. The abortion or birth is experienced by the female, so forcing either would be a violation of her human rights. I don't consider having to find another woman to squirt sperm into a violation a human rights.

I restate for the umteenth time:
I support a womans right to CHOOSE what is best for her.
Forced abortion is as much a travesty to me as forced gestation.

"You won't find anyone that is truly prochoice supporting forced abortions."- Darkmoon

Someone (to say who it is, would only reduce me to name calling... if you look in this forum you will find it) on this forum already stated that they believed in forced abortions in ALL teenage pregnancy or "unwanted" pregnancies for that matter. Whether or not this was sarcasm I wanted to find out. Apparently they have chosen to abstain from this post for whatever reason.

I am glad that no one ,so far, has agree with the homicide of forced abortions

Forced abortions are horrendous. I'd never force someone to abort and anyone who does so deserves to go to jail. I believe that ANYONE who would force an abortion on anyone is NOT pro-choice but actually pro-abortion.

Now there is an example of pro-abortion but not pro-choice. See, Eiri, the terms have an extremely tenuous difference. All pro-choicers are pro-abortion but not all pro-abortionists are pro-choice. Forced abortions are tangentially the ONLY cases where pro-abortion can be used but not pro-choice.

Furthermore, forced abortions are not inherent to the meaning of pro-abortion, unlike what too many pro-choicers erroneously and baselessly think, taking their man-made semantics as the truth.

I feel the definitions are very clearly different. If YOU are FOR forced abortion you are clearly pro-abortion. You declared yourself so proudly Pro-Abortion. I guess this means you are for forced abortion?

I feel you've misunderstood what I was conveying in my last message on this thread. The fact, not opinion, is that pro-choice and pro-abortion have only a mere shread of difference, and in the vast majority of cases, they are identical. Both denote support for the legal right to abortion, although pro-choice more subtly concentrates on the choice to abort, hence why someone who advocates forced abortion cannot be pro-choice but can be pro-abortion. This is the ONLY situation in which the two differ.

I am not in favour of forced abortion, but that does make me any less pro-abortion. You have made a logically fallacious statement [url=www.wikipedia.com/Affirming_the_conse quent]affirming the consequent ("Forced abortion is pro-abortion. You are pro-abortion, therefore you support forced abortion"). It's as ridiculous as saying "Joe Bloggs is gay and his favourite colour is blue. Your favourite colour is blue, therefore you are gay".

I don't favour forced abortion because it is anti-choice. We are both broadly pro-abortion because our belief is that we support the legal right to abortion. Pro-choice really is just a more in-depth, exclusive idea that comes under pro-abortion. As I've said before, all pro-choicers are thus pro-abortion but not all pro-abortionists are pro-choice. If you claim to be pro-choice, you are inherently pro-abortion. Forced abortion is the only situation in which you (and I) are not pro-abortion because the element of choice there doesn't exist.

So by that reasoning all pro-life are actually anti-choice since they want only one end; the forced gestation of all pregnancies.
Since by being pro-life you actully support there being no choices so you are really saying you are anti-choice not pro-life.l

Anti-choice is pro-life. I have said it before. Forced abortions are the only situation where anti-choice and pro-abortion exceed respectively pro-life and pro-choice. I just find it risible that pro-choicers and pro-lifers take offence and object to being called pro-abortion and anti-choice. Pro-choice supports legal abortion, therefore it is pro-abortion; pro-life opposes the legal right to abortion, therefore it is anti-choice. It's a matter of semantics and pro-choicers and pro-lifers should be proud to be named pro-abortion and anti-choice, as they represent their beliefs. This is why I like yoda's indifference to being called anti-choice.

And I've said before that there are many pro-lifers who are NOT anti-choice: they WISH women would chose life and will talk to women about this but would not make it illegal.

The major thing that this forum has taught me is that pro-life and pro-choice are not black-and-white definitions. Pro-abortion and anti-choice are far better descriptions for the extremists of the sides but are NOT identical to pro-life and pro-choice. Not by a long-shot.

Forced is disgusting. Could you imagine finding out you're pregnant, looking at all the sweet baby clothes in shops, planning names and then told you need to terminate?

Been there, done that and was temporarily disowned until the birth for not having any of it.

I'm glad you stood up for what YOU wanted to do.

It's ironically what has made me so staunchly pro choice. People tried to take away my choice to gestate, my trying to take away others' choice to abort would be equally as abhorrent.

Amen, sociable. Rock on.

This type of women you have described is not pro-life, but pro-choice - their choice being that they would never abort.

I find that pro-abortion and anti-choice are much more accurate descriptions that you take them for.

Strange, as I've met women who call themselves pro-life but believe exactly what I posted above. Why don't you go argue with them?