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Q: Would You Adopt This Baby?
asked by: sillyakchick on December 7th, 2007
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The issue of abortion is not a simple black and white problem. There are many layers and many factors which have to be taken into account when discussing it. For example, take a junkie on the streets of any major city. THis person shuffles back and forth between she;ters and flop houses. One night while she is passed out she is raped. She falls deeper into despair and does more and more drugs. three or four months later she recognizes the fact that she has not had a period and has put on some weight. She also recognizes that she has been sick more than usual. She goes to a clinic, gets tested and finds out she's pregnant. She also finds out she has AIDS and knows that her baby will probably have AIDS too. She can't afford an abortion, as she is homeless and has no money. SHe goes ahead and continues the pregnancy and goes into labor 6 weeks early, delivering a 4 1/2 pound baby with breathing problems. BAby is HIV and a drug addicted baby who screams and screams from the pain of withdrawl. This baby might grow up to have a normal life, but the odds are stacked against him. He will have a significantly lower IQ than other kids his age, if not some serious mental retardation. He could have a spina bifida from poor maternal nutrition in utero. He will have attention and anger problems which will give him the label of ADD or ADHD. He will have mood disturbances, violent outbursts and his chances of becomeing a criminal one day are very high. THese things occur even in light of serious psychological interventions that he will have throughout his life. Do you want to adopt her drug addicted baby? I think not. The facct is, nobody will adopt her drug addicted and malformed baby. Thisi is why I believe adoption is not an option in all cases.
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meblonde01
replied on December 7th, 2007
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You're right. People want perfect everything so they probably would not adopt this child. I don't think many people would want to adopt this baby. But your story made me feel so bad for the baby I want to adopt it.. Good point sillyakchick
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sillyakchick
replied on December 7th, 2007
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Awww thanks!! I too feel bad for this child. But this would have been a great chance for the state to step in and provide this woman an abortion and some help.
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Jude-Love
replied on December 7th, 2007
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To be quite frank, I think many pro-lifers do not care about women like this and it will all just revert back to it being her fault for being a scumbag or whatever.
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Verizon-y
replied on December 7th, 2007
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While I feel very badly for the child, I would honestly NEVER adopt it. It would take too much away from the child I already have. The government will pay a lot more money in healthcare and foster homes for the sick child than they would have paid for an abortion.

btw, I also think it is beyond sick to force that baby into this world just to suffer immensely and to most probably die of AIDS. It would be much more humane to stop the embryonic cells from developing into a fetus, to stop the growth before the brain is formed to the point of achieving consciousness.
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Birch
replied on December 7th, 2007
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I didn't see that Mom wanted an abortion, just that she couldn't afford one. Just a tiny point, but in my prochoice mind it makes a difference.

To deviate slightly from the point you are making very well sillyakchick, I would never advocate for abortion for another woman because of what may or may not happen healthwise to the child post birth. I would present the most accurate information I had with no sway one way or the other.
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Dannzibelle
replied on December 7th, 2007
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I don't know, i was lucky to have a baby who is perfectly healthy and thriving. I would love to adopt this baby. I would only ever consider adopting children in this circumstance one my own were old enough to understand why they were like it and would help though
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diamond splinter
replied on December 9th, 2007
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In a heartbeat this baby deserves a loving family just like anyother baby does my boy was born at 30 weeks and we were lucky until at 12 week old he contacted meningitis and epilepsy he had a 7 minute fit resulting in cerebral palsy and was perscribed phenobarnitone a highly addictive drug so having held him and loved him when he was eventually weaned of medication i guess i may be biased yes it is hard work having a disabled child but he deserves a loving family just like the baby in the op scenario
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SmartyShirt
replied on December 9th, 2007
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Well...I see a point. It must be hard to have and love a baby who looked like someone who raped you.
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Tylanas
replied on December 9th, 2007
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The mother can't keep the baby Smarty, so that's why it's being given up for adoption. Her "love" for it has nothing to do with this case, since if she was smart enough, she probably would have aborted if she'd had the chance. That's what I got from this story.

No one should have to suffer like that baby does.
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Verizon-y
replied on December 9th, 2007
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Eiri wrote:


No one should have to suffer like that baby does.


Exactly, and this point is overlooked too often.
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SmartyShirt
replied on December 9th, 2007
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So you think she should have been aborted? If a person is suffering then they commit suicide that is okay? Silly
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Verizon-y
replied on December 9th, 2007
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I have no idea what your post meant.
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Tylanas
replied on December 9th, 2007
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SmartyShirt wrote:
So you think she should have been aborted? If a person is suffering then they commit suicide that is okay? Silly

A born person cannot kill a born person, that is murder and that is why suicide is illegal, you are literally murdering yourself.

Yes, I think in this case that poor baby should have been aborted before it was old enough to feel pain.
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sillyakchick
replied on December 9th, 2007
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SmartyShirt wrote:
If a person is suffering then they commit suicide that is okay? Silly


Yes, I think a person should be allowed to commit suicide if that is their wish. What are they going to do, arrest their dead body? Silly indeed. Confused
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Verizon-y
replied on December 9th, 2007
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I don't think suicide (the failed kind) is actually illegal in most places anymore. You might have to undergo medical observation briefly to check your mental and physical health, but you won't go to jail.
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Tylanas
replied on December 9th, 2007
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Well I think it's being treated more as a mental emergency these days (as it should be) and so the focus is on finding out why the person wants to die and helping them so they can have a good life again.
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SmartyShirt
replied on December 9th, 2007
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So you guys think that choice is better than life in suicide?
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Verizon-y
replied on December 9th, 2007
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I think that stopping cells while they are still part of a woman's body and have no consciousness, no sentience of any kind, no capacity to feel or know anything, is better than letting it grow, be born, and suffer.
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SmartyShirt
replied on December 9th, 2007
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Not about abortion now about suicide.
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