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June 15th, 2012
I know what you mean! I've been trying to quit for quite sometime. On 06/24/2012 in Illinois, cigs are getting taxed another $1 A friend of mine shared this with me and i haven't smoked in 3 months!
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replied June 18th, 2012
Champix side affects
I'm 18 days in and have stopped smoking, but the side affects are unbearable. I didn't research before I went unto so as not 'expectantly imagine' any side affects. It was about 2 days in that I started looking at te packaging for the side affects but found no warnings anywhere. I was feeling nauseous, having weird vivid dreams, feeling depressed, headaches and a cold had started after not having had one for over a year. I'm in my second cold already. I did find on the packaging Pfizer, which made me immediately weary as to what level of corruption has been involved in getting this drug on the Market. Who was the lobbyist that got the Australian government to heavily subsidise this drug and into our doctors waiting rooms. Upon further searching (not entirely hard) I've been reading accounts of teeth falling out, actual suicide, violent behaviour etc.

I have never blacked out or lost my memory in my life before (I'm 30 and had plenty time to do this)... Regardless of how much I have drunk I have always remembered and found my way home. Last week after some glasses of wine, I have lost a portion of the evening, finding my way home safely.

I Now fear for what I've been reading points towards permanent side effects that sometimes seem to arise only after the treatment. I will quit champix today and hope I have not done too much to myself, which will only likely be known in the enquiry in ten years time when the true picture is revealed
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replied July 20th, 2012
More people benefit from this meds than suffer on it. If you have those side effects, stop using the meds. It works for me and nothing else did. I don't mind the slight discomforts I had in the start, but keep remembering how much money I'm saving and setting a good example for my daughter.
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replied June 18th, 2012
I'm 18 days in and have stopped smoking, but the side affects are unbearable. I didn't research before I went unto so as not 'expectantly imagine' any side affects. It was about 2 days in that I started looking at te packaging for the side affects but found no warnings anywhere. I was feeling nauseous, having weird vivid dreams, feeling depressed, headaches and a cold had started after not having had one for over a year. I'm in my second cold already. I did find on the packaging Pfizer, which made me immediately weary as to what level of corruption has been involved in getting this drug on the Market. Who was the lobbyist that got the Australian government to heavily subsidise this drug and into our doctors waiting rooms. Upon further searching (not entirely hard) I've been reading accounts of teeth falling out, actual suicide, violent behaviour etc.

I have never blacked out or lost my memory in my life before (I'm 30 and had plenty time to do this)... Regardless of how much I have drunk I have always remembered and found my way home. Last week after some glasses of wine, I have lost a portion of the evening, finding my way home safely.

I Now fear for what I've been reading points towards permanent side effects that sometimes seem to arise only after the treatment. I will quit champix today and hope I have not done too much to myself, which will only likely be known in the enquiry in ten years time when the true picture is revealed
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replied June 22nd, 2012
tempted...
Hi
I live in South Africa and have been looking forward to Champix for years since I heard of it from a Canadian friend (it completely worked for her). Im on my 2nd week (its friday, I stopped Monday) had a puff on Wednesday, nearly threw up only friend. Haven't had a problem with cravings at all until (Wednesday and again today its a bit difficult) Im tempted to have a puff as a reminder of how gross it is! Wanted to know if this is ok? I'm petrified of a relapse after spending R400 ( $50) on the starter pack, yet am having withdrawals!

I tried EVERYTHING, cold turkey (nearly went mad) Hypnosis (hypnotist was Hungarian, couldn't get her accent, and charged the earth), Zyban (hallucinated and became a paranoid mess)

I am happy to report that the only side effect I am having is nausea and only after the first few minutes of taking the tablet. and very very odd dreams! (dreamt last night I was smoking an electric cigarette!)

Good luck to all those trying to quit! greta to hear there are some success stories!
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replied September 2nd, 2012
Hi Guys,
Its my first day on champix. I really wana quit lets c wat happens.One thing which i want to share is that cig taste has changed for............... me dats amazing.
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replied September 19th, 2012
Champix
I have been on it for 8 weeks, I have quit smoking for 6 weeks. This stuff works. I have the abnormal dreams ( kinda like some of them haha) and bad gas. Other than that this stuff is amazing, I would recommend it to anyone.
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replied October 3rd, 2012
week 5 on Champix now, quit smoking 3 weeks ago. Vivid, crazy dreams. Bloated and constipated. Even had some serious depression issues( happened twice....both times alcohol was involved) At least i know its the tablets and not me...right ? I dont get cravings but do still miss the "taste" of the odd sigg. Been a heavy smoker for 28 years. I am an ex smoker and sincerely doubt success without the help of this drug
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replied November 18th, 2012
Champix is not for everyone but the people it is for, works magincally for them - me included. My partner and I both smoked for 10+ years, started taking the champix, up until about day 3 i had quite bad gas but that sorted itself out. My partner found if he takes it on an empty stomach it makes him feel nauseous but as long as he has food with it - it's fine. I haven't experienced that myself i can take them on an empty stomach with no issues.

I quit on day 11 and haven't looked back, sure get the occasional craving but that's fairly normal. Now 6 months a non-smoker, didn't experience withdrawls again when i came off the champix, that's silly, the nicotine is long gone out of your body within a week so of couse you're not going to get nicotine cravings again.

Have seen a lot of people still smoking past day 14 - it clearly states on the packet to choose a day between 8-14 as your quit date and commit yourself to that date. I imagine people who've found they're still smoking probably didn't commit to a date. Also not sure if the side effects would be worse if you're still smoking past day 14, any medication not taken as directed can be harmful.

Also first thing my doctor told me is anyone predisposed to depression or anxiety or anything like that should keep well away - even if they haven't experienced it personally but it runs in the family.
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replied January 16th, 2013
Day 2 no smoking
I am on day 9 of the champix and my quite date was 2 days ago. Choice seems to help with the cravings. I have not really had any side effects beside a little nausea in the morning if I don't eat. I can breath a bit easier and cannot wait tofu USB the program and be a non smoker. 2 days now with no smokes.
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replied January 16th, 2013
Stupid auto text on my phone. Tofu USB should say finish
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replied January 17th, 2013
Champix is indeed very effective, it's the reason i was able to quit smoking!
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replied January 24th, 2013
Champix
Just finished my 3rd week on Champix. I went smoke free on the 13th day only because I made a package of cigarettes last me 6 days. I would say to others you won't really feel it is working until you quit, at least if you arent getting alot of side effects which I didnt. Once I did quit I found it quite easy, there were no physical cravings, just mental ones, which I suspect will take a little while to get over. My worst time for the first few days was the one I would have first thing in the morning, the one when I would get in my car, and one after meals, all of these were more the habit breaking than the cravings. I do lack energy, even though I am sleeping way more than I ever did, getting a solid 8-9 hours where I used to sleep maybe 6. The first week alot of vivid dream (not bad ones), nite sweats, and a tiny bit of nausea and hard burn. Well worth it if it will keep me of the cigarettes for good. Good luck everyone!
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replied March 6th, 2013
Hi Everyone, i have been on champix for 11 days now i quit smoking on day nine and havent smoke since, i sometimes think about cigarettes but only when i would usually have one. but in my mind i have now associated cigarettes with feeling sick. so as you can imagine that makes me not one at all.

The side effects:

Ive been feeling very sick when i would take the champix but now eat before hand, somedays i can feel sick throughout the day but then others its only now and again, i almost every day have crazy mood swings where something that would not usually bother me, really gets me angry to the point where i have to walk away before i snap. other times i feel so down that i just dont feel like anything is important anymore, and that my boyfriend dose'nt love me and feel hes going to leave me. i soon come out of those moods and think how stupid it was. but at the time i honestly think the whole worlds against me.

I do believe that the champix drug is amazing stopping smoking wise, but the effects that myself and others have had are very hard to deal with. i worry about when the course of my champix is over! what will happen to me and my health as i have read and heard so many bad things? then again i worry about getting through the course as it is, i just hope i dont do something stupid.
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replied March 23rd, 2013
Re: problems
rebeccablackpool wrote:
Hi has anyone experienced what my husband is experiencing at the moment. Taken full course of Champix, sudden onset of feeling like all teeth are loose, gums swollen and painfull, now had to have 1 tooth out, others not feeling any better, scared to death will loose all teeth, NO probelms before medication, also had gastric problems and needed medication for the first time in his life and joint problems, shoulder, elbow and wrist...had to have steroid injections to ease pain. I feel quite guilty and sorry I pestered him to give up... any similar problems. thanks Bex


I have had knee and muscular pains this time too.
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replied May 25th, 2013
I stopped this 25 days ago
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replied May 26th, 2013
After 4 weeks on this evil drug, and after long conversation with hubby I decided to stop taking the tabs. I have been crying like it's going out of fashiom, feeling sick 24/7, sleeping 12 hours per night, struggling out of bed each day, too tired to shower, cook, I know sounds extreme reactions, but this is what the tabs have done to me. Cold turkey for me bin for the champix!
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replied June 15th, 2013
Alright, here is my experience so far with Champix.

I have smoked for nineteen years and I have taken Champix for eleven days. Today is the second day I am not smoking at all, so in my case, this stuff really works well and fast.

My doctor prescribed this to me, and he asked that I don't try to change my habits for the first three weeks of taking Champix. I know, some of you will say that my doctor is wrong (you would agree with my pharmacist, then), but upon further inspection, I read in the notice that you can actually set your stop smoking deadline right up to the 35th day of taking Champix. My doctor explained to me - and this does make sense - that since the very throught of stopping the bad habit stresses people out and especially since I am a particularly tense person, it is best not to try to stop smoking while flipping out at the thought of having to stop. Thus, I am allowed to smoke for the first three weeks. Obviously, I didn't need that!

What happened is that, within a day or so, I felt like my cigarette doesn't satisfy me. So, every time I would light one up, it felt like nothing. Without actually trying at all - this is what is amazing about Champix - I naturally started smoking less and less. By day 8, I was down to 4.5 cigarettes instead of my usual 15 to 20 per day. By day 9, I smoked a mere 2.5 cigarettes. The day after (this was yesterday), I was down to zero, and I will keep going with that number. I will not try to, I just will, because I know I can. I still feel like lighting one, but every time I do, I simply tell myself it is not worth it, I will just be frustrated by not getting the satisfaction I crave, and a cigarette is not worth having that negative emotion. Within seconds, I forget about it, and although this feeling like smoking is a bit nagging, it really isn't as hard to say no as I thought.

The first day of taking the pill, I got a buzz from it. It was unexpected, nobody told me about it, and I was supposed to flip out, thinking I have a serious, potentially life-threatening side effect. The problem is, I was unable to flip out! I called my mom to tell her I was buzzed, she asked whether I was buzzed in a bad way or in a good way, and I just couldn't tell. I imagine this is from the anti-anxiety effect of the pill, although I know that some people get more anxious from it, not less. The second day, I was a bit less buzzed, and the third day, I was hardly buzzed if at all. This would suggest that the neurological effects of Champix diminish as your body becomes accustomed to them.

However, besides the first day, I did have some heavy, unpleasant nausea right after taking the pill and for about two hours, although some days, it is worse, and some days, it is better. Funny that some of the users here say the nausea is milder if you eat before taking the pill. I had severe nausea yesterday, when I took the pill on an empty stomach, and I almost didn't have any nausea this morning, when I took the pill after two eggs and an English muffin. I have been not eating before the pill on purpose to keep the food in my stomach from exacerbating the nausea. It just might be that I should have done the opposite. I will try a hearty breakfast tomorrow morning before taking the pill, see if it helps.

I have been having the vivid dreams, I should even say nightmares, except I won't because I have a pretty high tolerance for nightmares. I have had weird sleeping patterns for the past few years, kind of like I am not quite awake nor quite asleep and I am aware while I dream that it is just a dream. So, whenever I have bad dreams because of Champix, I don't flip because I know they are just dreams. So, the nightmare secondary effect does not bother me at all. I actually quite like it - I dream something pretty wicked each morning and when I wake up, I can tell my husband in vivid detail all I dreamt, and he is actually quite entertained (he never remembers his dreams and is jealous).

I also have the gas problem, although I find it is mild. It is mostly silent and there is hardly any smell - this is by far the least preoccupying side effect for me. I would be willing to spend my entire life with this much gas if it means I will never touch a cigarette again (although I do knock on wood all the same).

For me, the worst so far is the tiredness or lazyness or whatever I should call it. I have a lot of trouble getting up off my bum since taking Champix. I am not cleaning my house as often or as thoroughly as I should, I am not caring for my body as much as I should, I kind of feel like I have low blood pressure all the time. This prevents me from doing a lot of things, so this is making me unhappy, as well as friends and family. I am not sad or depressed, just frustrated at feeling kind of handicapped and I don't have much of a sense of self-accomplishment right now, which doesn't help in getting my dopamine flowing.

A self-help line recommended, amongst other things, to have more sex, as that helps the dopamine to flourish. I have been trying to do more of that and it does feel nice! I have also been craving food, and whereas I don't usually feel like healthy foods such as fruits and yogurt, I have been craving those a lot, and obviously having them a lot as well. Since my taste buds seem to be recovering, fruit and yogurt have suddenly become tasty beyond my imagination, and when I have them, I have so much pleasure that I am pretty sure I get an extra dopamine fix from that. If you like sushi, now is the time to have that too - I almost had an orgasm from eating sushi, it never tasted better!

People, you have to understand, Champix decreases your usual dopamine levels, and I believe the depression side effect some of you are experiencing comes from there. When there is no dopamine in your system, there cannot be any pleasure, and that is an excellent recipe for depression. Please, try to increase your dopamine levels any way you can while taking Champix : going on walks or rides if you enjoy them, having your favorite foods, having sex more often, for longer or with more people (use a rubber, please), playing games, anything that gives you a sense of enjoyment. I think the best way to achieve this is to never stay alone, to let your entourage know what you are trying to do and that you are taking these weird meds so they can encourage you and be proud of you and to always be on the go doing something fun as long as you can afford it.

I am a pretty depressive woman, but I don't feel particularly depressed at this time. I think that the encouragement I get from my family, the fun I get from watching endless sci-fi on Netflix and playing a lot of video games and the joy in cooking and eating as well as more sex stimulate my brain enough that my dopamine levels never get below the depression threshold.

Also, people, please, do not have alcohol if you take Champix. It is obvious from the very sad testimonials here and elsewhere that these two just don't mix, and if you do mix them, that almost always means grave consequences. I wonder why Pfizer doesn't post advisories all over the place about this... Needless to say, don't smoke pot, it has a depressive effect and could exacerbate your symptoms. If you are hooked on pot and just have to smoke up, please use as little as possible as seldom as possible and don't roll it with tobacco.

Also, before taking any non-prescription meds against side effects, do speak to your pharmacist. Champix is fairly recent, its mode of action is still quite mysterious and it does affect your nervous system, so it would be quite foolish to combine it with medication not approved by health care professionals.

One last observation, especially for those who are only thinking about starting on Champix or have just started. I notice that every time I have started on a new, increased dose (at days 4 and Cool, the side effects that have gradually subsided by the time I took the next, higher dose have come back even worse. Please, don't worry too much about that, it gets better. For some people, the hill is too steep to climb and they would most likely be better off if their doses were increased at, say, days 7 and 15 instead (this is just an educated guess - follow the directions in the packaging all the same). The side effects gradually lessen over a few days. In short, the first week and a half seems to be the worst of it, but it gets better after your body begins to get used to Champix at the maintenance dose (starting at day Cool.

Best of all, do call your quitting hotline regularly while taking Champix. There are helpful people there, and although even I didn't believe it at first, their help really makes a difference in your chances of quitting for good. They listen to you and understand you, and they do a nice job of encouraging you. That really counts!
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replied June 15th, 2013
My experience
Alright, here is my experience so far with Champix.

I have smoked for nineteen years and I have taken Champix for eleven days. Today is the second day I am not smoking at all, so in my case, this stuff really works well and fast.

My doctor prescribed this to me, and he asked that I don't try to change my habits for the first three weeks of taking Champix. I know, some of you will say that my doctor is wrong (you would agree with my pharmacist, then), but upon further inspection, I read in the notice that you can actually set your stop smoking deadline right up to the 35th day of taking Champix. My doctor explained to me - and this does make sense - that since the very throught of stopping the bad habit stresses people out and especially since I am a particularly tense person, it is best not to try to stop smoking while flipping out at the thought of having to stop. Thus, I am allowed to smoke for the first three weeks. Obviously, I didn't need that!

What happened is that, within a day or so, I felt like my cigarette doesn't satisfy me. So, every time I would light one up, it felt like nothing. Without actually trying at all - this is what is amazing about Champix - I naturally started smoking less and less. By day 8, I was down to 4.5 cigarettes instead of my usual 15 to 20 per day. By day 9, I smoked a mere 2.5 cigarettes. The day after (this was yesterday), I was down to zero, and I will keep going with that number. I will not try to, I just will, because I know I can. I still feel like lighting one, but every time I do, I simply tell myself it is not worth it, I will just be frustrated by not getting the satisfaction I crave, and a cigarette is not worth having that negative emotion. Within seconds, I forget about it, and although this feeling like smoking is a bit nagging, it really isn't as hard to say no as I thought.

The first day of taking the pill, I got a buzz from it. It was unexpected, nobody told me about it, and I was supposed to flip out, thinking I have a serious, potentially life-threatening side effect. The problem is, I was unable to flip out! I called my mom to tell her I was buzzed, she asked whether I was buzzed in a bad way or in a good way, and I just couldn't tell. I imagine this is from the anti-anxiety effect of the pill, although I know that some people get more anxious from it, not less. The second day, I was a bit less buzzed, and the third day, I was hardly buzzed if at all. This would suggest that the neurological effects of Champix diminish as your body becomes accustomed to them.

However, besides the first day, I did have some heavy, unpleasant nausea right after taking the pill and for about two hours, although some days, it is worse, and some days, it is better. Funny that some of the users here say the nausea is milder if you eat before taking the pill. I had severe nausea yesterday, when I took the pill on an empty stomach, and I almost didn't have any nausea this morning, when I took the pill after two eggs and an English muffin. I have been not eating before the pill on purpose to keep the food in my stomach from exacerbating the nausea. It just might be that I should have done the opposite. I will try a hearty breakfast tomorrow morning before taking the pill, see if it helps.

I have been having the vivid dreams, I should even say nightmares, except I won't because I have a pretty high tolerance for nightmares. I have had weird sleeping patterns for the past few years, kind of like I am not quite awake nor quite asleep and I am aware while I dream that it is just a dream. So, whenever I have bad dreams because of Champix, I don't flip because I know they are just dreams. So, the nightmare secondary effect does not bother me at all. I actually quite like it - I dream something pretty wicked each morning and when I wake up, I can tell my husband in vivid detail all I dreamt, and he is actually quite entertained (he never remembers his dreams and is jealous).

I also have the gas problem, although I find it is mild. It is mostly silent and there is hardly any smell - this is by far the least preoccupying side effect for me. I would be willing to spend my entire life with this much gas if it means I will never touch a cigarette again (although I do knock on wood all the same).

For me, the worst so far is the tiredness or lazyness or whatever I should call it. I have a lot of trouble getting up off my bum since taking Champix. I am not cleaning my house as often or as thoroughly as I should, I am not caring for my body as much as I should, I kind of feel like I have low blood pressure all the time. This prevents me from doing a lot of things, so this is making me unhappy, as well as friends and family. I am not sad or depressed, just frustrated at feeling kind of handicapped and I don't have much of a sense of self-accomplishment right now, which doesn't help in getting my dopamine flowing.

A self-help line recommended, amongst other things, to have more sex, as that helps the dopamine to flourish. I have been trying to do more of that and it does feel nice! I have also been craving food, and whereas I don't usually feel like healthy foods such as fruits and yogurt, I have been craving those a lot, and obviously having them a lot as well. Since my taste buds seem to be recovering, fruit and yogurt have suddenly become tasty beyond my imagination, and when I have them, I have so much pleasure that I am pretty sure I get an extra dopamine fix from that. If you like sushi, now is the time to have that too - I almost had an orgasm from eating sushi, it never tasted better!

People, you have to understand, Champix decreases your usual dopamine levels, and I believe the depression side effect some of you are experiencing comes from there. When there is no dopamine in your system, there cannot be any pleasure, and that is an excellent recipe for depression. Please, try to increase your dopamine levels any way you can while taking Champix : going on walks or rides if you enjoy them, having your favorite foods, having sex more often, for longer or with more people (use a rubber, please), playing games, anything that gives you a sense of enjoyment. I think the best way to achieve this is to never stay alone, to let your entourage know what you are trying to do and that you are taking these weird meds so they can encourage you and be proud of you and to always be on the go doing something fun as long as you can afford it.

I am a pretty depressive woman, but I don't feel particularly depressed at this time. I think that the encouragement I get from my family, the fun I get from watching endless sci-fi on Netflix and playing a lot of video games and the joy in cooking and eating as well as more sex stimulate my brain enough that my dopamine levels never get below the depression threshold.

Also, people, please, do not have alcohol if you take Champix. It is obvious from the very sad testimonials here and elsewhere that these two just don't mix, and if you do mix them, that almost always means grave consequences. I wonder why Pfizer doesn't post advisories all over the place about this... Needless to say, don't smoke pot, it has a depressive effect and could exacerbate your symptoms. If you are hooked on pot and just have to smoke up, please use as little as possible as seldom as possible and don't roll it with tobacco.

Also, before taking any non-prescription meds against side effects, do speak to your pharmacist. Champix is fairly recent, its mode of action is still quite mysterious and it does affect your nervous system, so it would be quite foolish to combine it with medication not approved by health care professionals.

One last observation, especially for those who are only thinking about starting on Champix or have just started. I notice that every time I have started on a new, increased dose (at days 4 and Cool, the side effects that have gradually subsided by the time I took the next, higher dose have come back even worse. Please, don't worry too much about that, it gets better. For some people, the hill is too steep to climb and they would most likely be better off if their doses were increased at, say, days 7 and 15 instead (this is just an educated guess - follow the directions in the packaging all the same). The side effects gradually lessen over a few days. In short, the first week and a half seems to be the worst of it, but it gets better after your body begins to get used to Champix at the maintenance dose (starting at day Cool.

Best of all, do call your quitting hotline regularly while taking Champix. There are helpful people there, and although even I didn't believe it at first, their help really makes a difference in your chances of quitting for good. They listen to you and understand you, and they do a nice job of encouraging you. That really counts!
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replied July 8th, 2013
on day 10 still no diminished cravings..
One day 10 of 1mg twice day. Still not feeling a diminishing desire to smoke Sad Used Champix 3 years ago and woke up one morning in week two ad just nver felt like smoking again. Lasted 3 years. Was Hoping for the same this time around- but I wish my cravings would start to go down at this point Sad And yes, I had horrible nausea to the point where I had to go lay down for an hour or two sometime. Any thought of moving would set me off. the worst has passed. Now waiting for some results Sad
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replied October 20th, 2013
Don't give up hope Emmi. I'm on day 13 of the 1mg but it was only till yesterday that the diminished cravings were very apparent. And thank God for that because today is my quit day and doing quite well. Have you noticed a diminishing at all? Even just slightly longer periods of time in between cigarettes? I hope so because that means you're on the way. That's what I found with me. Even if it is just a case of 15-30 minutes longer than normal without really thinking about it (if that's possible). Good Luck, I'm sure you'll do fine.
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replied August 19th, 2013
my journey on champix
started Champix 13 days ago (am on day 14) my smoking has decreased BIG time.I used to smoke 25-30 a day now I smoke maybe 5-7.today the side effect of nausea was the worst just after I had a smoke.which to me is a good thing if I associate throwing up with smoking quitting will be a breeze.
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replied October 18th, 2013
I Started on Champix in September and my quit smoking day was 6th October after being on the tablets 7 days I have not smoked a cigarette since and feel quite ok in myself although the craving for one hasnt gone completely yet and hope it will soon. I have had one or two side effects mainly mine has been the sleeping pattern have found some nights couldnt sleep at all, I have now started taking my second tablet a lot earlier afternoon and not after dinner. So it is improving the sleep pattern. Had one or two headaches but nothing serious and have not had the nausea some people have. I am also attending the weekly support at my local surgery. I used to smoke 2 ounces of rolling baccy a week so I am saving about 15.00 a week which I am putting away which is a great idea to encourage me not to smoke. I also have an e cigarette should I need to use it. So far doing ok.
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