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bigtusa
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Unexplained Back Pain For 3 Months Now
Posted: 11-29-07 09:08am
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Woke up with burning pain in left side of
back just below rib cage about 3 months
ago. Nothing helped but an ice pack to get
me through that first night. Since then
pain comes and goes no matter what I'm
doing. Lately, intense itching in same
spot, in between pain episodes. Went to
General Doctor, who first treated me for
muscle strain, then a pinched nerve in my
neck. Last diagnosis from this doctor was
severe arthtritis in my neck. Therapy had
no effect on condition. Went to a Pain
Management Doctor-who said pain had
nothing to do with my neck. Now back to
spasm and pain meds I was given 3 months
ago 
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rollar64
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Posted: 11-30-07 01:35am
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Hi bigtusa sounds as if you may not have a
firm diagnosis yet, muscle strain ,and
pinched nerves are sometimes given as
reasons for pain before a more serious
investigations carried out, but i reckon
a doc would not say you had severe
arthritis unless he had proof, have you
had x rays if you have you might want to
get a copy of the report knowing for sure
whether you have arthritis or not would be
a good first step i think you need to get
a firm diagnosis first perhaps a
specialist opinion first.
good luck let us know if you find out
something new.
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bigtusa
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Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Tustin, CA United States
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Following Insurance Route
Posted: 11-30-07 06:51am
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Unfortunately, I have to go the way my HMO
sends me. I can't afford to see any other
specialists on my own. They even refuse to
pay for the medicines their own doctors
prescribe for me. Don't know what to do.
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rollar64
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Posted: 12-02-07 02:41am
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all i can say is i am glad i don't live in
the states, keep complaining maybe they
will send you to someone who can help
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RichT
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Posted: 12-02-07 23:25pm
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Hello Bigtusa,
I'm glad you at least have insurance, some
don't have any insurance.
However, the way in which HMO's operate
greatly concerns me. May I suggest that
you speak with your doctor and REALLY push
for him to make an appointment for you to
see a neurosurgeon or a spine surgeon.
I am no doctor, but in my opinion you
really need to have the advice of a
specialist. Another thought if I may - is
there a clinic in your area that is open
to all and where they do not charge? May
be worth looking into.
Take care. Do stay in touch.
RichT
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bigtusa
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Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Tustin, CA United States
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Keeping Fingers Crossed
Posted: 12-03-07 15:04pm
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Going to Pain Managment Doctor I was
referred to this Tusesday. He said he is
going to give me a cortisone shot in the
affected area. Sure hope this will help.
Thanks to all of you for your good wishes.
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RichT
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Wonderful!!!!
Posted: 12-03-07 17:06pm
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Hello Bigtusa,
FANTASTIC!!!, glad that you were referred
to a Pain Management Doctor. Do you have
or will the PM doc be taking any MRI
images? Hope so, as they will help the PM
doc know exactly where to inject the
"cortisone".
I put cortisone in quotes because it is
the term usually used, though a longer
lasting corticosteroid is usually
injected, such as Kenalog. Cortisone is
what the body produces to fight
inflamation, but it has a short life.
I had a couple of Kenalog injections by
two PAs. They worked at best for a week
or two. After that I saw my current PM
doctor and he personally gave me the
injection after carefully reviewing the
MRIs and then using a fluoroscope to help
him guide the needle to the exact spot it
needed to go. That first injection was
the end of April "07. It took care of the
pain in my right leg and the tingling
sensation I had in the lower part of my
leg. Here it is and I still have no pain
or tingling in my right leg. Most
satisfied to say the least.
My PM doc gave me a second Kenalog
injection in another part of my back to
take care of some lower back pain that I
still had. The second injection has also
helped to reduce the pain.
I hope and pray that the injection will
help you as much as it has for me.
When are you scheduled for the injection?
Take care.
RichT
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bigtusa
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Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Tustin, CA United States
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Back Shot
Posted: 12-04-07 14:58pm
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Just had injection to back for pain. Two
hours later, no difference. Pain
management doctor says it may take a few
days to take effect. At least I feel like
something is being done for me.
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RichT
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Posted: 12-04-07 19:29pm
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Hello Bigtusa,
EXCELLENT!!! Glad you had the injection
and that you feel that at least something
is being done to rid you of back pain.
Yes, be patient, give your body a chance
to react to the injection. May take a few
days.
I hope and pray the injection does help
you.
RichT
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bigtusa
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Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Tustin, CA United States
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Hope
Posted: 12-05-07 08:00am
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Thanks. Having some kind of hope that your
situation is getting better is a great
load off your mind. It's not that these
doctors aren't trying to help, it's just
dealing with the health insurance
burecrats that makes everything so
difficult. I hope things are going well
with you now.
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RichT
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Posted: 12-05-07 10:38am
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Hello Bigtusa,
Yes, some insurance companies can be a big
pain, and others are great. Do your
docs send their statements directly to the
insurance company or do you have to submit
the bills? Much easier if you don't have
to get involved.
But most importantly is your back and that
you have HOPE!!!
AHHHHhhhh, a much better day today. Back
is better, though after PT yesterday the
ole back and legs were worse. Maybe the
gentle snow falling outside today makes
things better. LOL
RichT
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bigtusa
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Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Tustin, CA United States
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Pain Update
Posted: 12-05-07 14:04pm
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It's now 24 hrs since I received back
injections. No pain! For the first day in
over 3 months. I haven't tried any kind
strenuous activity yet-but I sure am
encouraged. Think this will last?
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RichT
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Fantastic!!!!
Posted: 12-05-07 14:38pm
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Hello Terry,
WOW, I had to get my eyes up close to the
monitor to make sure I read "No pain!"
correctly. Terry, that is SOOOOOooooo
FANTASTIC!!!! You just made my day with
your good news.
How long will it last? Honestly, that is
an unknown. However, being the first
injection worked would indicate to me that
it will have the possibility of lasting
for some time.
Beyond my wildest hopes, my first
injection back at the end of April is
still working. May it also be for you.
Will you be meeting with your PM doc in a
week or two? I'm sure he/she will be as
happy as you are.
Don't let go of your PM doc, me thinks you
have a winner!!
RichT
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bigtusa
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Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Tustin, CA United States
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Great Disappointment
Posted: 12-06-07 04:13am
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Pain releif only lasted a few hours. Stiff
and sore again. Back to pain medication? I
wonder how long I can keep using these
pills-the labels say only intended for 3
weeks. What next I wonder. 
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RichT
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Posted: 12-06-07 08:47am
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Hello Terry,
Sorry to read that the pain relief only
lasted for a few hours.
"Stiff and sore again" - But I didn't see
you write "back pain returned". I'm
always a bit stiff and sometimes sore in
the morning until I get moving. Also, the
weather will now and then get my arthritis
to act up and make me feel like an old man
)especially in the early morning hours
before I get up.
Regarding the pain meds - I can't "feel"
you pain, so I can't really suggest what
you should do regarding the pain
medication. Terry, I can only say that
for me I stay away from the pain meds. I
took hydrocodone for a few weeks last
spring and never again. Made me sleep too
much during the day. AND it was not fun
trying to get myself off of the
hydrocodone. For me, I'll stay away from
the pain meds as long as I can.
Hope things get better.
RichT
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expatient
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Posted: 12-07-07 04:21am
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Sure there is a connection with pelvis and
neck.
When pelvis is malaligned it causes back
muscle spasm and pain. It creates also
scoliosis. That creates same problems to
neck: muscle spasms and pain.
Every doctor should understand that.
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RichT
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Posted: 12-08-07 08:54am
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Hello Terry,
I've been thinking about you and wondering
how you are doing. When you have time
would you give us an update. Thanks
RichT
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bigtusa
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Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Tustin, CA United States
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Update
Posted: 12-08-07 13:36pm
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I'm not doing well. Back pain is as bad as
ever. Injections seem to be a dead end. I
forgot to mention that my general
practioner had tried same 2 months
ago-same result. Way too much trouble for
just a few hours of relief. Closest I can
get to a firm diagnosis is some medical
term for soft tissue damage in
back-something-myalgia? I don't think one
general x-ray through my chest is showing
anybody what's really going on. Once
again, it's an Insurance coverage issue.
Hope you are still feeling better.
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RichT
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Posted: 12-08-07 13:47pm
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Hello Terry,
OUCH!! not what I was hoping to hear.
X-ray images really won't show much if
anything regarding soft tissues. Have you
had an MRI? If not, that may be something
to have done, as MRI images do show soft
tissues, nerves, etc.
Looks like time to see a really good
neurologist.
Wish you the best.
Stay in touch.
RichT
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