I think it was Mike that also broght that up. Hmmmm, Like I said to him. Maybe becuase we spend most of our time helping others in the same boat. And the time we have left spent reading and researching stuff. It kinda has a ring to it to be honest.

O.K. I am going to try to keep this calm and civil. I am severly tempted to go to the deep end on this one.
There are tons of terrible, nasty, very mean people in the world that we have had to deal with.
They are called NORMAL! It's those same people that want to define anybody with a disease, that isn't like them! Those are the ones that divorced me, demoted me, and drove my health into the dirt, sucking the very life out of me like a bunch of vampires.
This is civil compaired to what I want to say. In today's society, you can be a total MONSTER, and be termed as NORMAL. If you stomp on other people extra hard, you are better than NORMAL!
Do you know what my greatest flaw in the work place is?
I treat people with respect and dignity.

I think that it is normal for people to be mean and unconsidering to others, thats what has defined humanity from the very beginning. Humans are naturally a violent and self-serving species.

When a person comes along, who puts others before themselves, never goes out of their way to inconvienice another person, and wants everyone to just be nice to everyone, they find that they don't fit in with everyone else.

We're just different I guess.

Maybe depressed people are the next step in evolution? haha nah...

Hmmm, I like this thread. Keep it going. I am ready with much interest. Nice side to a story untold.

What you are all saying is so interesting. It does seem that people who are more sensitive, and put everyone before themselves do get depressed. I have always been sensitive, caring (too caring, that's probably why I work with children with cancer). People will say to me how do you do that and I answer, someone has to do it, so it must be me. I can't understand when others aren't caring and sensitive also. And I have a tendency to get depressed. Actually I have been that way ever since I can remember. But wow, maybe we get depressed because we
are different than others. What a concept, I like that. Would like to hear others opinions...

Yes, I am saying just that. I was in health care for 23 years and in mental health. Best year of my life. And I have been a depressed person from way back. That is why alot of this is making sense. I have compassio and a very careing person. I feel sometime like I am carrying the weight of the wold on my shoulders. And I don't say that in a negative way. I care yes, I care too much about other then I do myself. It has been that way for a far as I can remember. I worry about others all the time. My mothers was an OR tech and my sister is an LPN. I was a medical assistant and trained hosiptal tech. Worked every unit you think of. Was even an EMT for 4 years with a fire dept (volenteer) and was there when I was not at work in my younger days, I just about killed me when I had to retire 2 years ago due to illness. I think this thread is very realistic and is really starting to make sense. Those of us who are depressed, care more about others then we do ouselves. We research more, we ask questions and we get answers. Everyone on this board, is right there to help, no questions about it.

I think most people in the world are like us. But, mean, violent people get the positions of power, even in some hospitals. They care for no one else and force their way to the top. It's a small number that rules the majority. Text books, and history books have to meet their approval. History and theory has to written to appease the hateful.
Example, I am not saying there is no evolution. But, Darwin wrote his book in such a manner, that it gave the Rothchilds the unholy right to plunder, both forigen and domestic. They were the fitest gave them the right to destroy others for their survival.
Today, a certain number of people must die from the lack of medical care to
maximize the health care profits. Economic Darwinism. The religion of the monsters.
I remember being a boss. I would see other bosses get exited to the point of almost being sexual at getting the chance to fire somebody.
I had to fire somebody once. I hated it and it bothered me for weeks.
The ones who enjoy such a thing are the NORMAL people. Thank God I am not NORMAL.
I don't think we have the disease. We need a new disease term for monster people.
We shouldn't be called depressed. We should be called people with a heart!

It is all making sense. I have always felt that I am extra sensitive, more than others. I don't deal well with hurt and pain. Where friends of mine will tell me, just go with it. There is a book I read,"the highly sensitive person." It was very helpful. It is by Elaine N. Aron. So glad I found this site, it has really helped me realize I am not alone in the way I feel. Thanks!

Yes Ms carrie this is a very interesting thread. I think that Mike hit the nail on one thing that he said "you have to be mean and perhaps violent to be in positions of power". I look at our countr's leader and believe that. I look at the administration of my local hospital and I believe it is there as well. the whole "its just business" idea is resounding in this discussion.

Yes, I believe that caregiving positions do become more dtressed and their health can falter from spreading themselves too thin. I too was a medical care provider and have worked in many caring professions. I felt that my energy was being taken away by some patients or clients.
Over time, however, I have learned that you can care and provide care without letting it swalow you whole. I get energized from caring. I admit my own children sometimes make me tired, and stress me out, but when I start feeling that way, I think to myself, "How can I use a loving strategy to alleviate this problem?" and go from there. Remember the old saying about flies and vinegar and honey? Well its true here too.

Mike, I would encourage you to look up the real patch adams some time and if you can , go see him speak. It's very uplifting and if you let it, it could change your life. He is an amazing person. I saw him speak a few weeks ago and someonme asked him how he can do all the caring that he does without getting burned out. He said that for him it was like food. It made him feel better to care for people than he did before. Just some interesting food for thought.

Stay positive!

The major corportions, politicians, and corporate media are alway applying labels. They put them on all kinds of things and groups. We're in the age of spin doctoring. For example, we will all get rich if you take a pay cut. I actually had that one thrown at me! What's good is bad, and whats bad is good.
Problems cannot be solved until they are correctly defined. We have discoverd a new disease. It has always been there. But, highly trained people have isolated it, for the first time. We need to find a clinical name for the Heartless Monster Disease. There may be one already, thats been hidden from the general public. Once the name gets wide public usage, no one will want to promote Heartless Monsters. We could be like the little boy who said that the king has no cloths. Finally, they will have a STIGMA to deal with. They will have to have a eHealth forum on how to overcome their disease.
I have thought of AHD. But, I wouldn't be able to say what it ment in some circles. I have heard of ego centristic syndrome. There should be a better one, though. If you know a better one, new, or from the past, let's have it, and spread it.

Hi! I just had to put in my 2cents. They say that women are not good leaders. Why do people say this? Because women are emotional and that means-- we feel, we care, we nurture (well, most of us anyway). And yes, we do sometimes let our emotions control us-- that's what we do. Funny thing-- there are more women who suffer depression than men. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of men, they just hide it better or they keep it locked tight inside until they blow. Then they become the monsters. I have so much respect for those men that let it vent and not hold it in until it's too late-- it takes a real man to ask for help. Us women are mostly smart enough to let people know we need support and help. Am I rambling? Sorry... I hope you understand my point

My long gone Mamma use to love fresh eggs. She had about eight hens and one rooster. Early one morning, one of the young hens started crowing. She would would be mean to the other hens, and she would pick fights with the rooster. At first we thought she was a gay hen. We had all the symtoms of having two roosters in the yard. Then one day, she let the rooster mate with her. She had four little chicks. After that, my Mamma had to set out an extra feeding spot for her, and her chicks. All the other hens turned against her.
There seems to be more, and more crowing hens in our society. If your are one, all the hens might turn against you, and someone might have to set something on the side for you.

Hahah. It actually depresses me that this person doesn't know what it's like. Congratulations for living the perfect life?

Perfect life in hell. Yes indeed.
I have to have a lot of faith to believe I have a home, let alone a heaven.
I know there is a hell.
I cans see it all around me.
See my other writings, and join with me in my perfect life in hell.
I guess I am the devils priviledged.