Can hypoglycemia come on suddenly? Posted: 11-23-07 12:54pm
Hi. I have read all the relevant part of
the forum, but have not seen this question
asked. I just wondered if it could come on
very suddenly?
Today It aws about 12.00 midday, and I had
not eaten anything as yet. Never do,
oneish is about usual, and has always been
fine.
Anyway, suddenly, roaring headache, limbs
felt very heavy - elbows and knees
especially - and I wanted to sleep. I
didn't, I pulled over and cried.
Not usually that emotional!
Anyway, slept all afternoon, had cooked
dinner, and now feel light headed but
apart from that fine.
I know you are not all doctors, but you
have experience to know between you I
should imagine.
So thats it, can it come on suddenly or
not? Thanks you all
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Posted: 11-23-07 13:06pm
it could have been several things
stress related even
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Stan
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Posted: 11-23-07 14:02pm
Ohhh groan, not the 'stress' thing.
People don't realize how much crap that
is. Yes, hypoglycemic attacks can come on
suddenly, when you first start to get the
condition this is usually what happens.
Most people, like me, wake up one day to
hell that doesn't go away until you fix
the diet.
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foxforce5
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Posted: 11-24-07 13:48pm
Hey Stan,
How are you? Hope you are well!
After being on an even stricter Candida
diet, I started to feel tons better. I had
3 weeks where the hypo had disappeared
altogether. Now the last week & half
they are back with a vengeance & the
anxiety is creeping back too. I was
reading on another hypo forum where some
said that when they went on Celexa there
hypo symptoms completely went away. I too
actually know someone who said that same
thing happened to her. I never did believe
it at the time. But now I am considering
this route. My Candida pals tell me this
set back is normal and that it is just my
body healing. I do believe that I have
Candida but it is so hard treating it when
I keep crashing all the time. My ND thinks
I am way too strict on my diet - no fruit
or dairy now.
I am much better than I was 4 months ago
but still not able to hold down a job.
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Posted: 11-24-07 20:55pm
These things can come much more slowly
than we'd like, but at least it's getting
better. I've been doing great, I only eat
around 4 times a day now, eating pretty
much only when I feel hungry, which is
currently a novelty. As I said before,
don't forget that if you have this and not
ONLY candida, expect to have bouts of suck
that come and go. The good thing is you
now have tons of good days to compare it
to that should make it easier for you to
hold on. You should start adding fruit
back in eventually, as soon as possible in
fact. How long are you supposed to stay
on the candida thing before you can? I
know you're supposed to avoid sugar at
first in some cases. Can't find the
sheep's yogurt, right?
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foxforce5
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Posted: 11-25-07 09:41am
No Can't find Sheep's yogurt at all around
here. This Candida forum on yahoo is a
very strict diet and most never go back to
eating fruit, in fact, there whole object
is to get the body running with minimal
carbs. I have tried this but keep
crashing. She calls her program a natural
healing program & most of it makes
sense to me except for someone like me who
has severe hypo crashes.
This is there mantra - "Like I've written
before many NDs and nutritionists do not
truly understand the body and the
nutrients required, so they often
perscribe the wrong things. The easiest
foods for the body to digest are meats,
eggs, and good fats like I recommend, as
compared to any and all carbs (any foods
not classified as protein or fat). Carbs
require a lot of body resources in order
to digest and utilize them, while proteins
and good fats do not. Also 58% of protein
and 10% of good fats turn into glucose
(inside the body) supplying all the
glucose needed to maintain blood sugar
levels. This means you can be perfectly
healthy on only meats and
good fats, and no carbs, just like the
Eskimos. See this article
about a year long experiment done by V.
Stefansson and his friend in
a hospital under doctor's supervision
eating only 80% fats and 20%
meats. They were healthier after a year
than before they started.
Also the Eskimos maintain perfect health
on an all meat and fat diet."
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Posted: 11-25-07 15:39pm
Wow, that's really wrong and she's missing
a few things.
1. The easiest food for the body to digest
is ONLY eggs. Meat requires a LOT of
work.
2. Carbs are actually much easier to
digest in the sense that they're easy
energy for the body, that's why humans
started to cultivate the land, they
realized it was much easier to grow food
that you could eat in smaller quantities
than it was to kill giant animals with
enough food to only sustain you for about
a week or so.
3. Everything turns into glucose actually,
and not in the percentages suggested
there, not sure where she got that.
4. She mentions the Eskimos, which are an
exception. The reason for this is that
though they survive on what is basically
an extreme Atkins diet, they ALSO eat the
organs and bones and eyes and such of
their food sources, which is how they get
their vitamins and other goodies. You
WON'T get this by just eating meat and
fat, thus you need to supplement with
vitamins if you don't eat enough organ
meats, which pretty much no one does in
America because they think it's gross.
Any race that survives eating this way
ALWAYS supplements with fruits and leafy
greens they find in the wild, the Eskimos
are just lucky that over centuries their
people learned to eat organs to keep
themselves as healthy as possible. Plus,
you can't really say if you eat like them
you'll be like them, because you won't,
they've been eating that way unchanged for
centuries. This is why whenever they
become urbanized they gain weight so
easily, their genetic make-ups are set for
diets like that and store fat very
quickly.
5. If you haven't figured it out yet, they
also get their sugars and stuff from
eating animals in this way, so if you're
eating a high fat/protein diet that's
recommended on that site, it's worthless
without fruits and vegetables because I
gaurentee it doesn't say ANYTHING about
organ meats, bones, eyes, etc.
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foxforce5
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Posted: 11-26-07 17:03pm
I agree with you!! You're so smart. Here's
some info I gathered.
More energy is required to digest meat
than can be
obtained from the meat. This wears out the
protein digestive organs,
and leads to stressful indigestion.
Looking at a true carnivore –
like, say, that lion with his big sharp
teeth -- we can see enormous
differences in their digestive tract.
Specifically, the lion's small
intestine, where most of the nutrients are
only about three times the
length of his body. This means that the
meat he eats moves through his
system quickly, while it's still fresh.
Humans, however, have much, much longer
intestines, with food taking
from 12 to 19 hours to pass through the
digestive system. This is
ideal for plant-based foods, allowing our
intestinal tracts to absorb
every little bit of nutrient available,
but it also means that when we
eat meat it's decaying in a warm, moist
environment for a very long
time. As it slowly rots in our guts, the
decaying meat releases free
radicals into the body.
Free radicals are unstable oxygen
molecules that are present to some
degree in every body. When you hear
advertisements trumpeting the
importance of foods and supplements
containing cancer-fighting
"anti-oxidents," it's these free radicals
that they're battling.
While they'll always be a part of you –
free radicals are built in to
cells as part of their normal activities
– you can do things to
minimize their damage. Too much sunlight
in the form of excessive
tanning encourages the production of free
radicals, which is why even
though a little sunlight is important each
day. Using a good sunblock
will not only help you avoid skin cancers,
it'll help keep you younger
in general. But the biggest thing you can
do to limit the free
radicals in your body is to avoid eating
meat. For the 12 hours or
more that meat is rotting away in your
system, those tiny, free
radical time bombs are multiplying in your
system.
Along with that, as meat protein breaks
down it creates an enormous
amount of nitrogen-based by-products like
urea and ammonia, which can
cause a build-up of uric acid. Too much
uric acid in your body leads
to stiff, sore joints – and, when it
crystallizes, can cause gout and
increased pain from arthritis. Carnivorous
animals, interestingly,
produce a substance called uricase, which
breaks down uric acid.
Humans don't produce uricase, though –
another clue that we're not
meant to be meat-eaters.
When you eat meat, how much of it do you
eat raw? Well, Mr. Lion eats
his raw, while its still brimming with
enzymes that aid in digestion.
Humans, however, cook their meat. In fact,
we cook our meat to
temperatures over 130 degrees Fahrenheit.
This has the benefit of
killing most disease-causing bacteria, but
it also kills the enzymes
in the meat.
Whenever you eat dead food – food
lacking in the natural enzymes that
help you digest it – your pancreas has
to work extra hard to provide
more so the food will break down for
digestion. This puts strain on
the pancreas that it wasn't originally
designed to handle. Which isn't
to say that you should eat raw meat, like
the lion. But it's another
consideration when we look at whether
humans are designed to eat meat
– when true carnivores eat raw, fresh
meat, all the enzymes are
present to help them garner the nutrients
they need as it passes
quickly through their short digestive
tracts, and the
nutrient-depleted waste is eliminated soon
after.
When we eat cooked meat, though, our
bodies have to work extra hard to
digest it, using precious energy needed
for other purposes, overtaxing
the pancreas, and creating free radicals
as the dead flesh decays in
our intestinal tract. But when we eat a
plant-based diet, we're
feeding ourselves food that's abundant
with living enzymes, which
breaks down efficiently in our systems,
and which provides extra
energy by not demanding that our organs
work overtime to use it.
On the flip side, the digestion of plant
materials takes longer than
meat proteins largely due to its cellulose
(hard to digest) component.
This is why plant eating animals have
relatively long digestive
tracts. The Inuit (~ Eskimos) have shorter
digestive tracts than most
other humans due to the great proportion
of meat in their traditional
diet.
The digestion of plant materials is a
relatively difficult and lengthy
process, usually necessitating the
incorporation of specialized
cellulose-digesting bacteria into the gut
of plant eating specialists
and, often, large body size to house the
large stomachs, etc.
necessary to the pull required energy out
of often nutrient-poor
foodstuffs (think of cows and grass).
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Posted: 11-26-07 23:15pm
Be very careful of that data, which you
probably got from some sort of vegan or
pro-vegetarian website or book or some
sort. Our bodies are quite adequately
designed to digest meat, and most of that
information there is incorrect. The
problem is, most people don't know how to
eat it properly. For example, it IS
better to eat it a little more raw, but
not TOTALLY raw. Humans learned this a
long, long time ago when they started to
notice problems from eating it and learned
that cooking it seemed to do something.
But cooking it too much does make it hard
to digest. Also, heavier meats like red
meat (steak and so forth) are fine, just
not eaten for every meal every second of
the day. If you have, say, a piece of red
meat every day that accounts for maybe 20g
of protein or so, you're fine. You should
be eating most of your food in terms of
lean meats anyway because it's easier to
digest. Eggs, I forgot to mention, are
the perfect food because they most closely
resemble our own make-ups, so the body has
to do minimum work to convert it into
usable energy and such.