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Q: Questioning My Pro-life Beliefs

asked by: gematria on November 22nd, 2007

New User

I was really glad to see the post about someone questioning their pc beliefs. It makes me feel less guilty about me questioning my pl beliefs.

The part I'm most having trouble with is, what right do I have to force other people to have the same view as I do? The thought of a group of people trying to change the law to force their pc views onto me is terrifying.

What if the government could suddenly decide when I could keep my baby or not? They do this in China, so it's already happened someplace. What if Global Warming gets so bad that the population has to be controlled? What if some of us are forced to have abortions?

OMG it keeps me awake at night. When I do finally fall asleep, I have nightmares about this scenario. In my dream when the government enforcers are coming to drag me to the abortion clinic, I am screaming "How can this be happening??" How can this happen in my country, the United States of America? It's my baby! How can the government force me to do this????"

Then I realize it all started when people like me got the Supreme Court to take away a woman's right to choose. It wasn't like I thought it would be. I thought it would only apply to abortions, but I WAS WRONG. Once the right was taken away from women to control their own bodies, the opening was there for the government to easily step in and decide not only when we weren't allowed to have abortions, , but also when we weren't allowed to keep our babies.

Replies(21)

Emma21

replied on November 22nd, 2007

Experienced User

Pretty scary dreams! That would be total chaos.

Birch

replied on November 22nd, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

Thank you for posting, and welcome to the forum! I am prochoice so I admit I have bias, but I was happy to read your post and glad to see that you are questioning your prolife viewpoints. I hope you will stick around.

Just to clarify, the Supreme Court hasn't completely taken away a woman's right to choose yet, they are just slowly chipping away at it.

Emma21

replied on November 22nd, 2007

Experienced User

Birch wrote:

Do you think they will win? This is all pretty scary!

Birch

replied on November 22nd, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

No, I don't Emma. I believe the abortion debate is just a way of sidetracking the populace from more pressing issues, as well as providing a line in the sand. And a voting platform. Since abortion is 'kind of' illegal, and 'kind of' legal, it keeps people going.

marvel

replied on November 22nd, 2007

Supporter

thank you for posting gematria.

you raise an excellent point!

I used to be prolife and went through the same sort of feelings that you're having. i decided that, yes, while I think that abortion is terrible, taking away the rights for a woman to choose is more terrible. So I put my energy into supporting other alternatives for women who dont' know what to do. While, yes, sometimes abortion is the only option, many women can't access or don't know about other options out there... they're kind of shoved off to the side as the abortion debate itself takes the limelight.

It's good to question yourself and what you're being told. Whatever you decide, make sure you stick to your guns!

GuÂ£st

replied on November 22nd, 2007

Active User, very eHealthy

You need not worry about forcing someone to believe as pro life believe, it can not be done, it is imposible to force someone to believe as you do. You can educate but you cant force. As for forced abortions, well, that is a result of pro choice philosophy who view the fetus and not a human being, pro life give the fetus rights, they do not take away a womans right to control their own body, they give the fetus rights so a woman cant control the body of their child.

Forced abortion is more likey to result from pro choice beliefs than pro life beliefs, if pro choice advocate that one human being has the right to force another human being to die, then the government could claim the right to force all unborn human beings to die.... why not?

gematria

replied on November 22nd, 2007

New User

Thanks for the kind greetings.

Tylanas

replied on November 22nd, 2007

Especially eHealthy

Forced abortion is a concept that pro-choicers are extremely against. Forcing either choice is what we do not stand for. Choice is the opposition or force.

gematria

replied on November 22nd, 2007

New User

Gu£st wrote:

I don't really get that last part. My nightmare had to do with me thinking I was accomplishing one thing, but then it has unintended consequences. Sad

Sort of like once the government took control of women's bodies away, they were able to do more than I realized. I don't think I can risk having someone other than myself deciding when I can and cannot have a baby.

"then the government could claim the right to force all unborn human beings to die.... why not?"

The government could not force all unborn babies to die without first taking control of the moms' bodies.

Emma21

replied on November 22nd, 2007

Experienced User

So the root of your dream is basically fear of not being in control. lol not that i'm a dream analyst or anything.

gematria

replied on November 22nd, 2007

New User

Emma21, yeah, I think that is a big part of it. I never really ever paid attention to that line before, the one pc people say about controlling their bodies and stuff. Until my bad dream, that is.

The main scary part was where my own protests and beliefs came back to haunt me, and it was because of me and my friends and others that the rights were taken away in the first place.

So the government was able to force people to give up their unborn babies because there were too many people.

Emma21

replied on November 22nd, 2007

Experienced User

Isn't it amazing how a simple thing like a dream can really alter your views? everyone is afraid of not being in control.

Jincks013

replied on November 23rd, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

Gu£st wrote:

Guest do you have any actual concrete evidence that PC supports or in any way initiated the concept of forced abortions?
Please provide it or stop trying to goad people with false, misleading and inaccurate statements.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself!!

I am pro-choice CHOICE: power of choosing : option.
Which forcing anyone to have an abortion agaist their will does not support.
You are merely trolling and trying to start a fight. Don't.

Verizon-y

replied on November 23rd, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

He's just scared because one of his own flock had a neuron or two actually fire off a thought, lol!

Jincks013

replied on November 23rd, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

futureshock wrote:

He's just scared because one of his own flock had a neuron or two actually fire off a thought, lol!

gematria

replied on November 24th, 2007

New User

I hope you guys don't think I'm one of that guest person's flock or whatever. I recently read some of his posts with religious stuff in them, and I don't think like that guy at all.

Jincks013

replied on November 24th, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

I'd like him better if he'd learn to use paragraphing..

Verizon-y

replied on November 26th, 2007

Extremely eHealthy

lol! me, too! Why can't people see what their own posts look like, and understand how difficult they are to read????

sociable_recluse

replied on November 30th, 2007

Experienced User

I became pro choice after realising that if i support forced gestation (i was pro life at this point) then that made me no better than those who support forced abortion.

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