Should Mentally Unstable People Be Forced to Abort?

I'm not talking about mentally unstable teens either. Personally (I think) getting pregnant on purpose at that young of an age IS a mental disease, but that's beside the point.

The way you worded your original comment it read as: "They should not be forced to give birth but be forced to give the child up for adoption instead", thus implying you are forcing them to give birth. That's just how I read it.

Rich people can't abuse their kids? Yes they can.

I understand your second paragraph, but not your first sentence.

i dont think anyone ever deserves to be forced to abort
just like no person should ever be forced to keep a child they dont want

reguardless of your age,relationship,mental stability,financial stability,whatever you have a choice. the choice should soley be based on and FOR the life of the chid.

This whole discussion is sort of like what I was saying in my posts on the other topic, the one about questioning your pro-life beliefs.

Forcing anybody to do stuff without their consent really terrifies me, because once it starts, who's to say it can't happen to me or anyone else?

I never questioned my pro-life beliefs before I had that bad dream I wrote about in that other thread. Then when I read that Kypros guy say he was questioning his pc beliefs, I was glad I wasn't the only one "questioning".

I don't think anyone should be forced to have an abortion either.

I think that a person who is deemed "mentally unstable" they should have a psychological evaluation to see if they are capable of caring for a child. They should be watched very closely to make sure they are caring for the child. If the person takes medications they would need to be closely monitored to be sure they are taking them as prescribed. There are people out there that have schizophrenia that have terrible delusions/symptoms if they don't take their meds, but they are very capable people as long as they continue with medication treatment. I don't really think that a person should automatically have their kids taken away just because of some diagnosis. There are people out there that may have been wrongly diagnosed and it is pretty hard to get a diagnosis changed once it's there.

I know some people that seem to have it all together that are awful parents. I know people that are not all there that are the most loving and wonderful parents.

...and I also know people who endured severe neglect, emotional abuse and physical abuse because they grew up with mentally disturbed parents. Even these people admit they wish their parents had never had them. I'm not saying I would advocate crazy women getting coat hangers stabbed into them, but the people who are completely incapable of being parents should be weeded out at the very least. But, on the other hand, if that happened, these people wouldn't be raising more insane people in their image and that would mean less business for nut houses. Soooo, perhaps there's a reason people who are severely depressed or sociopathic are not prevented from spawning - it would put psycho-handlers and shrinks out on their a**es.

I was raised by mentally disturbed & abusive parents. I have never once wished they had had aborted me, nor am I mentally disturbed.

Forced abortion is a gross violation of personal autonomy, regardless of their mental state. Additionally, since genetics are not the sole factors in regards to mental illness, forced abortion towards these individuals would not systematically remove the mentally ill from society, and put "psycho-handlers and shrinks out on their a**es". Also, people without a diagnosed mental illness see "psycho-handlers and shrinks". And one more 'additionally', mentally ill individuals can and do positively contribute to society.

See a list here of individuals dx'd specifically w/ bipolar disorder:
http://en.w ikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_believed_ to_have_been_affected_by_bipolar_disorder< /a>

I don't think the forced abortion concept was to reduce the population of "crazy" people, though I can see how you'd interpret it that way. I believe the OP's original intent was the concept that parents like that cannot care for a child properly so abuse is avoided via abortion.

**adding in that I am not stating my opinion on whether or not mentally unstable people can care for a child in this post."**

*Waits patiently for the requested facts*

First off, I don't think the word "retard" is very PC here, and i really REALLY get offended when people use that term.

For the record, my own grandmother had moderate cerebral palsy, but managed to parent to children by herslef, despite being physically disabled. Back then people called her "retarded" too, until they actually read things that she wrote. We need to be careful that our own inferences of "unstable" and the like are accurate labels. It would have been a shame for someone to take her children away from her because they thought she was mentally incapable of caring for them.

I am not mentally ustable but i freely admit that for a period of time folowing the birth of my second child i went through a phase of being mentally unstable. No one could have predicted that I would go nuts, it just happened. It lasted a long time, too.

There are plenty of mentally divergent people out there who are capable of effectively parenting a child.

Should people who fall into this category be forced to abort? I don't think so. First, it interferes with bodily autonomy. Second, it punishes people for crimes they have not even committed yet.

Anyone ever see that movie, "I am Sam?" It was a great portrait of this very topic. If you haven't seen it, I reccommend it.

I saw it. It was excellent. I was so mad I was in tears half of the time. You're right, this whole topic is nonsense.

I saw a Law and Order: Special Victims Unit episode once that relates to this. A mentally handicapped adult female and male were in love and ended up becoming pregnant. The girl's mother wanted to force and abortion on the basis that her daughter was mentally a child and could never properly care for a baby.

The episode was heartbreaking because you could see that the pregnant woman was completely harmless and very in love with the child inside of her, and so was her boyfriend. I believe at the end of the episode the pregnant woman was allowed to make her own decision and her mom couldn't force her to abort. There were stipulations of course; they were going to receive help in raising the baby from care-workers, etc, but they were allowed to keep their child.

That is how it should be in real life, too.

I agree.

My mom has cerebral palsy too.