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asked by: AyaMiyaki on November 11th, 2007
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I'm not a teen but I'd like to make a statement. My daughter's father and I have been together since May 20, 1998. Nine and a half years. We got married in 2004, on our 6 year anniversary. When we got married, we'd already been living together for two years.

We decided to live together before marriage because, even after 4 years together, we wanted to make sure we were compatible. Dating someone and living with someone are worlds apart. We dealt with each other's bad habits, getting our bills in order and deciding how we were going to handle our finances, and really spending that time getting to know each other. I learned more about him in 6 months of living together than I'd ever dreamed of knowing during those 4 years we hadn't.

We married when we were comfortable doing so. It was never really a question in our minds that we would. We certainly planned on it. But that two year test drive really cemented in our minds that we were compatible and on the same page. When we took our vows, we meant them and had no reservations.

I would personally rather be dating someone for 10 years and break up than marry someone after a short period and be divorced before I turned 30. Most relationships these days don't last anyway... I strongly suggest to girls to take their time with big decisions (marriage, children) until they're positive they're with someone who's right for them. Planning pregnancies with a boyfriend you've known for less than a year isn't a great idea in my opinion. I don't remember even having a major fight with my husband until around the 2 year mark. Those rough patches will test the foundations of your relationship, and if that foundation isn't strong the relationship will probably end. If you're married, it will end with a divorce. That, at least, can be avoided.
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Verizon-y
replied on November 12th, 2007
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It's fine to live with someone first, I did it too. It';s the people who never want to marry their SO that I worry about.

A woman who stays home and raises the children from her BF will get NOTHING if he leaves. Only child support if paternity is proven. If BF buys a house and they live in it together and split up, if they were married she'd own half of the house. Living together she gets nothing.
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Jude-Love
replied on November 12th, 2007
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Getting married doesn't guarantee you much more though. Plenty of women get married and stay home and raise children-then when their husband dies, they may get pension/etc, but chances are they can't survive on that.

My husband and I lived together for two and a half years before we got married. When I moved in with him, it was because I wasn't sure if we'd get married. I already knew we'd be together forever and I didn't need to live with him to find that out. I think a lot of couples start living together and think their SO should have to bend to their ways. That was the main problem for my husband and I. We lived differently before. It would have been a problem then, and it would have been a problem when we got married. I loved him enough that I knew we'd work through it no matter what.
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replied on November 12th, 2007
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I strongly suggest to girls to take their time with big decisions (marriage, children) until they're positive they're with someone who's right for them.


people can be right for each other
but really your NEVER positive that will be the person you will be with forever. so i dont think there is ever a positive
things happen

my parents were married for 20 years, and together for 5 years before that. they got a divorce
this happens all the time
they had 3 kids togtether
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AyaMiyaki
replied on November 12th, 2007
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Hmm, now it says I started this thread and I didn't. Neutral

Suzy: I didn't say "someone you'll be with forever". I said "someone who's right for you". Why would you have a child with someone you just met or haven't known long? Why not wait long enough to figure out who they are, the good and bad things about them, whether you're compatible in a long-term commitment? I don't think anyone looks at their boyfriend and thinks "Yeah, I don't mind my baby having no daddy", but that's what happens a lot of the time.

Marriage doesn't guarantee anything, and I never said that it did. What I'm saying is to TAKE YOUR TIME with big decisions. Get to know the person you're with inside and out. That's one reason why I recommend living together before marriage. Don't rush marriage... and don't rush babies. They deserve the world, and don't need to be stuck in the middle of a lot of drama caused by their parents making hasty decisions that ended up being bad ideas.
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Jude-Love
replied on November 12th, 2007
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~^~My comment about marriage wasn't directed at you, I apologize. It was directed at futureshock. S/He kind of implied that as long as you get married, you're taken care of for life.
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AyaMiyaki
replied on November 12th, 2007
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Actually my reply was directed at Suzy (girlfreind) Laughing so we're good, Jude!
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Jude-Love
replied on November 12th, 2007
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Kay!
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PenguinsRus
replied on November 13th, 2007
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I completely agree with this. I am living with my boyfriend right now (we have been living together for almost half a year now). I learned SO much more about him after moving in with him than I did before we lived together. We learn about the good and the bad, and we worth through everything together. I love living with him because I feel like I get to know and understand him so much better, and when marriage comes around I feel like I will be much more ready and know exactly what to expect
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replied on November 13th, 2007
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PenguinsRus wrote:
I completely agree with this. I am living with my boyfriend right now (we have been living together for almost half a year now). I learned SO much more about him after moving in with him than I did before we lived together. We learn about the good and the bad, and we worth through everything together. I love living with him because I feel like I get to know and understand him so much better, and when marriage comes around I feel like I will be much more ready and know exactly what to expect


lol yeah you learn ALOT about someone when you live with them
things change drastically
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replied on November 13th, 2007
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Jude-Love wrote:
Getting married doesn't guarantee you much more though. Plenty of women get married and stay home and raise children-then when their husband dies, they may get pension/etc, but chances are they can't survive on that.


Here is an interesting article:

Who gets what when cohabiting couples break up
Independent on Sunday, The, May 28, 2006

More than two million couples cohabit in England and Wales, though they still have fewer rights than married couples. Most have a mistaken belief in "common-law marriage", though no such thing has existed since 1753.

Vanessa Lloyd Platt, a divorce and matrimonial lawyer who has practised for 28 years, says: "People like me have to tell them that after 17 years of living with someone they have no rights whatsoever."

If one partner dies before making a will, the other has no automatic entitlement to anything. Where either partner leaves a will, the estate is subject to inheritance tax, whereas the estate of a married couple is not. Where a tenancy is only in one partner's name, the other has no rights.

Cohabitees gain no rights to property already owned by their partner, no matter how much they contribute to the mortgage.

In the cast of most benefits, cohabiting couples are treated the same as their married counterparts. But benefits based on National Insurance contributions do not follow the same pattern. Couples who live together have no right to each other's pensions.

Bereavement and Widowed Parent's Alowances and the single Bereavement Payment cannot be paid to the surviving partner.

Mothers automaticaly have parental responsibility for children' in unmarried couples, the father does not. On marriage, fathers gain parental responsibility. Regardless of parental responsibility, al parents are obliged to support their children financially.

Jude-Love wrote:

My husband and I lived together for two and a half years before we got married. When I moved in with him, it was because I wasn't sure if we'd get married. I already knew we'd be together forever and I didn't need to live with him to find that out. I think a lot of couples start living together and think their SO should have to bend to their ways. That was the main problem for my husband and I. We lived differently before. It would have been a problem then, and it would have been a problem when we got married. I loved him enough that I knew we'd work through it no matter what.


I'm glad you were right for each other and got married. I really worry about all of these young teens living with their bf's with no plans to ever get married. I'm worried that they will be left penniless.
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