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Q: Some Pretty Serious Daycare Issues.....(long)
asked by: Hollyberries on November 9th, 2007
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Hello ladies. I have kind of a crappy situation on my hands. I got told about 3-4 months ago that my daughter was at the babysitters playing out in one of those houses with the kids, and it was brought up about her asking the other kids to show everyons "pee pees" Well the babysitter brought this up to me, and i spoke with my daughter, and she said that she didin't say it. I asked her 2, or 3 times, and she always told me mom i didn't say it. Well i'm not sure on the real story, and i really don't think the babysitter does either. But we both talked to Chyanne, and i'm guessing she talked to the other kids that were out side that day. But I told Chyanne whether she said it or not that talking about each others pee pees is nothing a 6 year old needs to be talking about, and if someone else is talking about it leave, and go play somewhere else because it's wrong.

Well i get to the babysitters yesterday, and this time they were outside in this house, and Chyanne was telling the kids to pull down their pants. When i went to pick up chyanne from the sitters she was upset, and i asked her what was wrong, and she said she had a tummy ache. We sat there talking while she got her stuff together, and the sitter said she's mad cause she got in trouble. I asked chyanne why she got in trouble, and she wouldn't tell me. Well this went on for a couple of mins, and then the sitter told me why she was in trouble. I asked chyanne why she did this, and where is she getting this from. All she would tell me is she got it from "no where"

Long story short...sorry Sad I don't understand any of it. I know she's not getting this from home, or tv. We don't do ANYTHING like this at home, and we don't watch any type of tv shows where she would be getting this from. But it seems like all the blame is always on her, and what about these other kids outside. I know there are a couple of really naughty boys at the sitters, and i have a feeling that maybe she's being pushed into saying, or acting like this. Or seeing someone else do it, and thinking it's funny, or cute. But the time before i guess one of the mothers took her kid out of child care with my sitter because of the pee pee thing. I'm scared to death of this happening again, and losing my daycare. I work 4-12, and i'm damn lucky to find this daycare that is 24 hours. And with a new baby coming in 6 weeks, or less, i would be screwed Sad

And to top it all off. This part makes me just wanna cry, but now she's not allowed to go outside with the other kids, or be alone with the kids on the house. She has to be out in the kitchen when the sitter makes supper so she can be watched at all times. She's making my 6 year old look like a freaking pedifile, or a sex maniac. And to think that i'm bringing her there so she can sit by herself for 8 hours just breaks my heart. I don't know what to do.
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hopefulmjz
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Eek, I'm sorry you're having a rough time. I'm not sure where she would be getting it (if it's her) but like you said, other kids could be bullying her. But I think the sitter should keep a closer eye on things. How many does she have in her care? Shouldn't she be outside with them? I almost think part of this is the sitters fault for lack of supervision. Just my opinion Confused
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Hollyberries
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Yeah a part of me feels this way too. I didn't want to say that in front of her though. I didn't want to lose my only means of daycare. I know during the day she has about 12. She is licenced, so i know she has limits. I'm guessing this is happening right after school when she has the most kids, and beings it gets dark at 5pm now. Just the whole things makes little sence to me.
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HcoBrunette06
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Honestly, I think it's a thing kids go through.

When I was in Kindergarten I did the same things, I was actually caught doing these things with another little girl in my class. I remember, too. My mom was in my classroom crying because my teacher was telling her about it & stuff.

Your daughter could have got it from another friend, that's what my situation was. My friend told me she knew what "french kissing" was.. and i had no idea, so she told me, ect ect. I know it sounds disturbing now, and I know I'd be upset if it was my child, too, but I'm telling you that she's not going to grow up as a sex freak and stuff because of what's going on and she's not bad because of it (i know you don't think those things)

I've also heard of other little kids doing it, I know it's upsetting and I hope you get things figured out Sad
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sick_mama17
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Shes there after school at 4pm until midnight?
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Hollyberries
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Yes my hours are 4-12am on week nights, and 4-1am on weekends
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sick_mama17
replied on November 9th, 2007
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So she never gets a good nights sleep then. Surely that affects how well she does in school etc...
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Hollyberries
replied on November 9th, 2007
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I'm not really sure what that has to do with my current situation, but the only spots open at my daycare were evening shifts so that's why i'm working night shifts. I have no choice. The day shift are taken at my job, and in order to switch jobs i would have to take a 3-4$ pay cut, and to me that's not worth it. She gets her homework done, and gets special attention with her school work. She is not doing crappy in school.
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sick_mama17
replied on November 9th, 2007
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It doesnt have anything to do with your current issues but you mentioned the hours shes there and I was surprised anyone would use a daycare that late at night so thats why I asked. People dont really do that over here. Sorry if I offended you but I do feel bad for her having to stay until midnight especially as shes of school age. Personally I would rather make a bit less money than do that to my child.

About your daycare issue, I agree with what the other people said it sounds like the woman isnt supervising them enough. If your daughter learns she cant do that stuff with the other kids or she gets punished by having to play alone, hopefully she'll stop doing it.
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Hollyberries
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Well she's not up until midnight. She is put to bed as she would be at home, and 9pm. Most of the time she's passed out before that. But i don't feel that punishing only my daughter if theres others kids out there doing the same thing. She makes it out to be that chyanne is the only one doing anything wrong. When it sounds like she doesn't even have a clue as to what's going on.
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benc152
replied on November 9th, 2007
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The babysitter must tell you everything that happens if you ask.
If she wont tell you something that happened then fire her.

But in reguards to your daughter, all children go through the 'show you mine i'll show you yours' Make sure she know's it's in appropriate, but really you want her to have a healthy relationship with her body, and others, there's nothing shamefull about it. just can't do it in public.
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Jules
replied on November 9th, 2007
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I would say that her behaviour is normal and being blown out of proportion. I remember my male neighbour and I playing "show me yours and I'll show you mine" when we were about that age. Nothing sexual in it, just curiosity.

Having said that I feel I must let you know that inappropriate sexual behaviour in a child can be indicative of sexual abuse. I'm not saying this is the case with your child but it's something to keep in mind. I was sexually abused as a child and I used to display inappropriate behaviour but the link wasn't realised back then.
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sick_mama17
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Hollyberries wrote:
Well she's not up until midnight. She is put to bed as she would be at home, and 9pm. Most of the time she's passed out before that. But i don't feel that punishing only my daughter if theres others kids out there doing the same thing. She makes it out to be that chyanne is the only one doing anything wrong. When it sounds like she doesn't even have a clue as to what's going on.


Yeah good point. If the others are doing it too, why is she the only one being punished? You'd think the sitter must have seen her start it, could you bring that up with her?
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Hollyberries
replied on November 9th, 2007
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I understand that the actions are normal. I'm sure i did it too. About the sexual abuse there is NO sexual abuse here in our home. I'm not getting upset with you, but makes a person wonder what's really going on in the house over there.
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sick_mama17
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Ive heard of some kids doing it, but never did myself.

Ive told jay many times "we dont show anyone our bottoms do we? only family people."

Its understandable if they are curious about it because they probably see eachother going to the toilet at school & pre-school and notice some have a different bottom to their own. Just curiosity isnt it.

I wonder if you can make it less or more likely to happen though. Like if your child never sees their siblings or parents in the nude, only ever sees their own private bits, so they would be much more curious when they suddenly see another child who looks different to them?
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Mabel
replied on November 9th, 2007
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My concern is that the daycare lady may be spreading herself too thin. Didn't you say there are 12 kids there. Does she have help? I don't think the adult to child ratio is too low and there should be more adults to supervise.

That said, this kind of behavior is not abnormal by any means. I hope no one is making your daughter feel bad for this (not YOU, the daycare!). It is normal to be curious at what other people have or don't have.

Are there new children there? The dynamic between kids at a daycare is a huge factor in the way things go on a daily basis. Your daughter may find that she is getting A LOT of attention from doing these things. Good attention/bad attention, sometimes kids don't care which it is. She gets pulled aside and talked to by the daycare lady and set out from the other group of kids. This, in itself, could be appealing to her. She does not know what she is doing is wrong.

(((hugs))) for you. Being a mom is hard. Being a working mom is VERY hard. You are doing a great job. Wink
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Hollyberries
replied on November 9th, 2007
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well both me and my fiance had this talk before, and again when it happened this last time. We told her that showing private, or asking others to show, or pull pants down is not acceptable in public, and that little girls are not to be talking about this with other kids. I'm just so confused as to why she won't tell me the whole thing (chyanne) or maybe she's scared to tell me because like i said she's being bullied. I think the thing that bothers me the most is i feel like a failure, and a bad parent. Number one i didn't teach this to her before, but i can't offer her a mon-fri 9-5 shift like other moms can. I am giving her what i can, and i'm trying my hardest to do so.


Not to mention that since this has all happened i feel very distant with her, and the babysitter. Kinda like on pins and needles.
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Mabel
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Just keep doing the best you can do, that is all any mom can do. Wink
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Hollyberries
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Ingi wrote:
Just keep doing the best you can do, that is all any mom can do. Wink


thanks so much! And to everyone that has responded. It's really getting to me for some reason. I guess it might be the pregnancy hormones lol. But i just can't seem to get it off my mind Sad
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sick_mama17
replied on November 9th, 2007
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Is there any way your fiance can change his working hours at all? So he could look after her for part of the time you're at work, then she wouldnt be at the sitters as long. I've been teaching jay "we dont show ours....." since he was about 3. Kids have no idea unless you tell them. I did it because I didnt want anyone taking advantage of him or whatever. Might seem over the top to some but theres a lot of sickos out there.
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