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Islam, women, and covering up.
Posted: 11-08-07 21:31pm
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I always wondered what other people
thought of the muslim girls putting that
thing on them where you can only see their
eyes. So what do you guys think of that?
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Posted: 11-08-07 21:32pm
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the "thing" is called a veil
and what are we supposed to think?
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Posted: 11-08-07 21:37pm
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like any opinions on it? I have a girl at
my school and she has worn it for about 4
years, and she completely hates
it....weird huh? she said it made her stop
believing in god, and that she is going to
take it off very soon.
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Posted: 11-08-07 21:41pm
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well there are several things
There are some Muslims who reject it
vigorously but they agree with the
headscarf.
and there are others who feel its the way
women are supposed to be dressed.
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Posted: 11-08-07 21:43pm
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well yeah i know that, there are alot more
kinds of muslims. Like the ones who dont
believe in hijab or anything else. I just
never understood why a woman would need to
cover her entire body and a man wouldn't?
And when iwould ask my muslim friends they
would never be able to explain it.
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Posted: 11-08-07 21:44pm
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| winter_child
wrote: | | well yeah i know that, there
are alot more kinds of muslims. Like the
ones who dont believe in hijab or anything
else. I just never understood why a woman
would need to cover her entire body and a
man wouldn't? And when iwould ask my
muslim friends they would never be able to
explain it. |
beacuse in thier point of view men are
valued higher than women 
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Posted: 11-08-07 21:50pm
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lol well than thats completely stupid .
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Posted: 11-08-07 21:56pm
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we had a muslim cleric and his wife at our
church to talk about stuff like that and
he said it should be a woman's choice to
wear it and it is meant to honour her
beauty and show her modesty and comittment
to her husband. i guess it's like she is
saying her beauty is only for her husband
to see. the way he described it was nice.
he said his wife doesn't wear it because
she chooses not to and he doesn't mind but
that other husbands or families make the
women wear them. the one that covers the
whole face is called a bourka isn't it?
and the headscarf is called a hijab. i
think there is another name for it but i
can't remember. my mom had a lot of
muslim women friends when we were growing
up and they don't wear them when they are
at home or when there are only women or
family around.
there was a time in western society when
it was considered very improper to walk
around in public without your head covered
and women who were married were supposed
to wear some kind of head covering, but
nowadays we have no traditions.
Last edited by kaerbear on 11-08-07 21:57pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: 11-08-07 21:56pm
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i know
but unfortunately some one or another will
always feel that way in this world
the way things are have changed alot
but they will never change 100%
Atleast some women have some sort of
freedom now
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Posted: 11-08-07 21:59pm
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| kaerbear
wrote: | we had a muslim cleric and
his wife at our church to talk about stuff
like that and he said it should be a
woman's choice to wear it and it is meant
to honour her beauty and show her modesty
and comittment to her husband. i guess
it's like she is saying her beauty is only
for her husband to see. the way he
described it was nice. he said his wife
doesn't wear it because she chooses not to
and he doesn't mind but that other
husbands or families make the women wear
them. the one that covers the whole face
is called a bourka isn't it? and the
headscarf is called a hijab. i think
there is another name for it but i can't
remember. my mom had a lot of muslim
women friends when we were growing up and
they don't wear them when they are at home
or when there are only women or family
around.
there was a time in western society when
it was considered very improper to walk
around in public without your head covered
and women who were married were supposed
to wear some kind of head covering, but
nowadays we have no
traditions. |
I think thats kinda demented. Especially
the husbands making their wives. Its like
the wives are under the power of their
husbands. And it is called a hijab.
I think its stupid to cover yourself so
other men wont see you. I dont understand
whats going to happen if they do? The
world wont end.
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Posted: 11-08-07 22:08pm
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| winter_child
wrote: | | kaerbear
wrote: | we had a muslim cleric and
his wife at our church to talk about stuff
like that and he said it should be a
woman's choice to wear it and it is meant
to honour her beauty and show her modesty
and comittment to her husband. i guess
it's like she is saying her beauty is only
for her husband to see. the way he
described it was nice. he said his wife
doesn't wear it because she chooses not to
and he doesn't mind but that other
husbands or families make the women wear
them. the one that covers the whole face
is called a bourka isn't it? and the
headscarf is called a hijab. i think
there is another name for it but i can't
remember. my mom had a lot of muslim
women friends when we were growing up and
they don't wear them when they are at home
or when there are only women or family
around.
there was a time in western society when
it was considered very improper to walk
around in public without your head covered
and women who were married were supposed
to wear some kind of head covering, but
nowadays we have no
traditions. |
I think thats kinda demented. Especially
the husbands making their wives. Its like
the wives are under the power of their
husbands. And it is called a hijab.
I think its stupid to cover yourself so
other men wont see you. I dont understand
whats going to happen if they do? The
world wont
end. |
well, it's a good thing no ones making you
wear one. i think it sucks that some men
force women to wear them but i don't think
it's the majority. i knew a couple girls
in university who wore them and they wore
them by choice. there isn't much you can
do to kids nowadays to make them do this
stuff anyway so most of them just do it
because they choose to and because it is
the tradition they were raised in. i
think we could use a little more modesty
in this world.
anyway, i think in the qur'an it says men
and women are both supposed to be covered
up.
oh yeah, the other word was jilbab i
think. i think it means coat or cloak or
something, clothing that's not revealing.
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Posted: 11-08-07 22:10pm
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lets not forget there are women that
choose to wear them
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Posted: 11-08-07 22:11pm
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so u think women should wear those things?
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Posted: 11-08-07 23:22pm
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| winter_child
wrote: | | so u think women should wear
those things? |
If a woman wants to wear the Burka (yes,
it is called that) it is Her Choice.
In the modern world, once you separate the
subjugation of women from Islam, the
concept of covering up is the same concept
that the Menonites and Amish have. They
too wear head scarves. They are christian
in origin, so this isn't just an Islamic
idea. According to the christian bible
women should always cover their hair when
worshiping (aka in church).
I can see the elegance in the idea that a
woman's beauty is only for the man she has
chosen as her husband. He is the only
person on the planet worthy of seeing her
with her hair down. Hair is considered by
many ancient cultures to be the source of
a woman's sexual energy. It is extremely
sexual.
Many women find the whole-body veil to be
liberating. They can talk to a man and
don't get goggled at.
Would I personally ever wear a veil? Not
right now. I like to show off and share my
beauty with everyone.
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Posted: 11-08-07 23:23pm
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if she wants to wear it then yeah why not?
its her choice
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