Serenity, you have it down. Thank you for all your great info. I'm suffering bad now too. I had my first stone at 15, and now I am 36 and have chronic stones for about the past 2 years. I can now go sometimes 2-4 months before I get a stone on the move again, and I think Its because I got completely serious about my diet, which by the way, was not bad in the first place! And although I thought I drank enough water, I guess a gallon a day is not enough for me. It seems like all I do is drink fluid now. Water being number one, distilled right now, seems to be helping. Instaed of reading a paragraph, let me try and simplify what works for me, and what does not:
KEEP IN MIND NONE of these "goods" will have refined sugars, caffeine (sodas, tea or coffee, etc
GOOD! (in order of use and importance to me for last year)
-WATER ( i drink distilled now for over a year)
-Organic apple juice
-BRAGGS Apple cider vinegar "with the mother" (I hate this one, but I have to tell you, I can almost feel it waring these stones down, and you can fix it with water, and honey to make it more palatable)
-Pure cranberry (you can get use to the taste, I enjoy it now)
Notice all these are liquids! Liquids, liquids!
NO GOOD!
-Sugar of ANY KIND!
-Any dehydrating foods/liquids:
soda, coffee, tea, juices with added sugar
-Mineral rich foods:
-Kale
-Chard
-spinach
any hardy green
-Red meat for some reason bothers me almost immediately, too bad I love it so much, but Ive stopped
-sausages
-hams
My rule has been, if its dehydrating I skip it, or in a VERY small bite, and that's it.
I'm still getting them, but not as frequent. The last 2 have been the worst of all. (just 2 days ago) And I sympathize with Banjo Booger, when you say you are at your wits end, and just wanna jump! Although I'm probaby the most positive person people meet, this thing cuts me down so bad, when its over I lay there and think..."what! This is no way to live! When is the next one going to hit?" And all the suicidal thoughts. But I hang on too. There's got to be a way! I want my life back! I'm so happy to voice my frustrations here! I swear some people are thinking that I may have drug problem or something, and I'm such a purist that it make me so frustrated! But believe me, when the pain gets intolerable, and Im throwing up, and passing out, I will reach for a pain killer now. I'm over trying to "endure" it anymore. It's so ridiculous! So Booger! When you are feeling crappy, leave me a message!