No kidding. That's why you have to churn out the kids...

The whole thing is unreal. How can these people not see the giant scam of it all?

Fear?

You might have something there.

As a correctional officer part of my duty is to stop any behavior which endangers others; assaults, escapes, attempted murders by any means necessary to control the behaviour.. Including Lethal Force (aka I can shoot them!) we fire officers who refuse to fulfill their duty and trying to weasel out of the obligation by saying "the pope said I could since I am against killing" doesn't cut the mustard with us; why should pharmacists be any different?
It is merely an excuse to not do their jobs and still expect to be paid for it.
Catholic condoned freeloading.

Some do. The ones I know do.

Do you mean some Catholics you know see the giant scam of it all? Then why are they still Catholic? I don't get that at all.

"Just in case". You can never be to careful with your eternal soul.

rofl!!!!!!!!!

Yes, some see the horrible political/financial games and rottenness. There are some very liberal Catholic churches who do their darndest to not have any part in this, to not take part in the discrimination. But they believe in the Catholic religion- the traditions that go with it, even if they realize that the church is corrupt and the power of the church is used in bad ways.

Just because you are Catholic at heart- meaning you go to Mass and pray and take part in the eucharist and the holy days and everything, doesn't mean you have to agree with the corruption/discrimination of the church. And the liberal Catholic movement is getting bigger.

Thanks for that insight, Georgia.

What about people that call themselves Catholic but disagree with almost everything the church stands for, on issues like premarital sex, abortion, contraception, stem cell research, homophobia, etc.?

futureshock I'm catholic and I do have disagreement on the church stand on contraception. But I do understand the fundament of why the doctrine is the way it is and I can see why it won't be changed in a long time. But I tell you what on the abortion stand I certainly have no disagreements.

When I was younger, I didn't know that a person could just decide to be not Catholic, or whatever religion, anymore. I guess I thought it was like being Irish or Italian or something, where even if you didn't eat Italian food, or had never been to Italy, or didn't even like or agree with other Italian people, you still had to be Italian.

I hope I'm not offending Italian people, it's just sort of an analogy.

The church runs the biggest BS stories known to humankind. I believe it was George Carlin who pointed out that the church makes billions annually off other people's hard-earned money, the church pays zero in taxes and they're always asking for more more more. Are they renting prostitutes to prevent the priests from molesting the altar boys or something with all this money?

I was born and raised Catholic, but I had a feeling I was never meant to be one. I hated church, I never once prayed sincerely to God, I've lied to priests during forced confessions (school policy for receiving penance twice yearly) and never did my penance, never thought highly of the paper wafers we were given at the end of mass...and, most importantly, never really truly believed there was an invisible man in the sky. I think I was just born with a highly-sensitive BS radar...oh yeah, and I am all for gays, birth control, abortion, sex before marriage, and killing embryos to save living people.

I'm glad I left the Catholic cult - just way too much fantasy for my tastes.

Cambion, I think it is very difficult for very bright children to buy all of that bs, just as you didn't buy into it.

Why can't more people who believe as you do stop calling themselves "Catholic"?

In it's defense (regarding money intake), the RCC provides more charity, except maybe for the Salvation Army, of any church. Priests and nuns are not living high off the hog.




I was raised Anglican and was the same way - it never seemed "real" to me. I did try, but it just didn't seem real. I eventually quit trying and now consider myself Atheist.

Atheism is an interesting religion in and of itself.

I prefer agnosticism.

Lol, that made me chuckle. Got a chuckle out of my Dad too, and a "huh?" out of my mom XD

I really don't know what the hell I would be considered. I don't think I would be atheist because, while I don't believe in God or gods, I do believe in 'ghosts'. I guess I'm just unaffiliated. Oh well - I like not having to sit in church and twiddle my thumbs for an hour.

C'mon, she got it eventually, right?