Again... not all people who are God-fearing are very caring individuals.
I must bring up the topic of the Catholic priests molesting the little boys..
Are they very caring? I would say not.
Sicko pervs.

I find most people can't seperate religion & God. To believe in God, they feel it is a religion. Most religions are based from the Books of the Bible. Religion and the Bible are two seperate enitites.

The old saying, how can you believe the Bible, man wrote it. With that concept, I say, how can you believe history? Did not man write your history books? To deny one, then one must deny all man written materials.

The different religions of the world, have omitted or inserted their own Books from the Bible. My opinion for those actions, is to control their people. It is up to us, to research all materials before forming a intelligent opinion.

The debate about creation & the evolution theory, I find a useless debate. There are missing links in the evolution theory. People don't want to believe in the Bible because there is missing information, in the next breath, they say they believe in evolution theory, though there is missing links in the line of human evolution.

Science is working on another theory, The String Theory. If they prove that theory, it will change the way we see things about creation & evolution. For more info on the string theory, PBS did a show on the String theory, here is the link to the transcript. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/3 012_elegant.html

"The old saying, how can you believe the Bible, man wrote it. With that concept, I say, how can you believe history? Did not man write your history books? To deny one, then one must deny all man written materials."

-not true at all history books are written on evidence that we find and put together from the past. the bible is a man made claim of the existence of god, jesus ect ect based on no evidence or proof what-so-ever

Your right, they aren't that caring, they are homosexual pedophiles, who has joined an org. to satisfy their own desires. So let's destroy the Church because of people's actions?

How about Oprah's school in Africa. Girls were molested, should we shut down that school?

I believe we are resonsible for our actions. We and not any particular org should be condemn. If I didn't believe that, then I would have to believe all Muslims are terrorist & murders, so we should do away with them.

You are right, not all people are God fearing, some have their own agenda for joining a org.

How can animals feel it is a not-smart idea to kill their own kind? Almost NO animal in the world murders its own kind. It is programmed in them via evolution and natural selection that killing one's own species is bad, and is not going to help the species survive in the long-run. It's just logical that murder makes no sense. Tacking on the moral value of "bad" is a purely human development.

On that note, chimpanzies DO murder each other in the same way humans murder each other during war. Invading troops of chimps are accosted by the home troop, and beaten off. Often, one or more will die. The home troop will then often cannibalize the enemy's corpses. This is very human like behavior, lending itself towards proving evolutionary theory even more.



Humans do. We are social animals, just like dolphins, chimps, wolves, etc. We NEED each other to survive. We need social interaction to stimulate our brains and keep them healthy. Many other animals suffer psychologicaly in isolation just as humans do. It is literally part of our blood and genes to form communnitties.


Not at all. You clearly do not understand the anthropological meaning of a society.

The British Museums has authentic letters written by Pontius Pilot to Herod on Jesus's healings, raising the dead & the feeding of the masses, plus the actual events that happened at the time of his death and after his death.

Archeologist and anthropologist have found so much of what was written about cities & people to be true.

String theory is very cool; I've been watching the development of it for years

Does not your heart tells you how to treat others? Would you not know that causing injury to someone was wrong without a faith in a deity? Do you have so little value for yourself and your own potential impact on others to think this way?

No wonder you think so little of others. You have no care for yourself.

If it was proven that there was no god, I'm sure a mass panic and a mass exodus out of this life would ensue by individuals like you, who do not appreciate the beauty in everyday life like you should.

is this what your talking about?

http://www.orthodox.cn/patristics/apostoli cfathers/herpilat.htm

he needs to take psycology classes cause he dont get it at all!!! i was trying to explain to him but i couldnt find the words lol. bravo eiri you did what i couldnt...

"Ok well Buddhists don't believe in God. They are caring individuals. Hindu people don't believe in God, they're caring too.
Some atheist people are caring as well."

Yes but there is a God.

"yeah i totally dont believe in the existence of god at all and i care about other people still"

Yes but there is a God

"religion is in no way becoming less and less"

over all the Catholic Church is growing very fast between 5-10% every year, across the globe, but in our society the west it is decreasing at 5% every year.

"How can animals feel it is a not-smart idea to kill their own kind? Almost NO animal in the world murders its own kind. It is programmed in them via evolution and natural selection that killing one's own species is bad, and is not going to help the species survive in the long-run. It's just logical that homicide makes no sense. Tacking on the moral value of "bad" is a purely human development. "

because there is a God.

"Humans do. We are social animals, just like dolphins, chimps, wolves, etc. We NEED each other to survive. We need social interaction to stimulate our brains and keep them healthy. Many other animals suffer psychologicaly in isolation just as humans do. It is literally part of our blood and genes to form communnitties. "

i.e from God

"Not at all. You clearly do not understand the anthropological meaning of a society."

and you clearly do not understand that we are Designed as social creatures.

"Does not your heart tells you how to treat others?"

my heart? a lump of muscle in the chest?

What do you mean by heart?

I know what you mean, of course it does, that is because there is a God.

"Would you not know that causing injury to someone was wrong without a faith in a deity?"

Yes I would know it is wrong as would most people (but not everyone) because despite our faith in god he still exists even if we dont believe in him.

Your only argument is "Because there is a God."
How do YOU know? Have you met him/her?
You don't KNOW, you have faith there is a God.

because people can "feel" what is right and what is wrong in their "heart" - this proves there is a God.....take some time to think about it.

No, it proves we have a central nervous system and a functioning brain.

I have a toaster. I don't like toast, but it makes muffins just the way I like them. This proves that there is a God. Take some time to think about it.

Prove it. I can prove gravity. I can't prove Buddha existed, but I'm not claiming him to be divine. His teachings aren't dependent on his existence. The words he said, or the words someone wrote in his name, still have meaning, whether he existed or not.

"No, it proves we have a central nervous system and a functioning brain."

biology proves that, not general moral consensus.

what you said is like saying mountians prove we have eyes.



"I have a toaster. I don't like toast, but it makes muffins just the way I like them. This proves that there is a God. Take some time to think about it."

well of course there is a difference between preference and morals.

between morals and opinions on what is right and wrong.

"Prove it."

Eiri you have already proven it.

No, I haven't. No one can prove God exists. Me asking for proof does not prove his existence. My existence in itself does not prove his existence.

Now, prove it. If you cannot, then STOP claiming it as fact.

"yeah i totally dont believe in the existence of god at all and i care about other people still"

Yes but there is a God

lol wow! what a surprize

lol wow prove it.