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michelle1981

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Posted: 11-03-07 12:29pm

There's this boy in Brian's class who is a royal pain.. not just a royal pain, but a brat! Boys will be boys, but when children do wrong they should have consequences in place to learn from their mistakes.
This boy use to tease Brian in SK, to the point of drawing tears to his eyes. I spoke to his mother then(3 years ago), but she didn't show any interest anyway.
Now, 3 years later, he's in direct contact with Brian(same class Evil or
Very Mad ), he's gotten physical.
Since the start of the school year, he's attacked Brian(unprovoked) at least 5-10 times.. probably more. When it was clearly evident that it wasn't an isolated incident, i expressed my concerns to his teacher. He has serious concerns about this kid, and advised me of what my next steps could be. He's also made the principal aware of his concerns, but they just shrug it off.
Brian knows exactly how to handle situations like this(although he isn't an angel, and has done wrong. As they all do), has just recently fought back.
I've made phone calls to the principal & vice principals, but because they haven't reported any(except the most recent) of the altercations, they don't see it as a problem.
This past monday the boy whipped a rock at his face... here's the pictures.

THE DAY OF




THE NEXT DAY


Nice eh?!
They didn't even phone me about it!

I walked into school the following day and confronted the VP(she's the one that handled it.). I was fuming, but for the most part, kept my cool. To be honest, i wanted to rip her throat out... idiots!! They still didn't believe that there was a bullying problem Shocked .
So i requested to meet with the other childs mother. So the date was set for Thursday @ 5pm..........

She was a no show Rolling Eyes . She was too far away. Again, i held back what a really wanted to say, and booked another appt. for Monday.

Either way, i'm contacting the schools Superintendent after the meeting.

Just a rant.... thanks for listening!
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Posted: 11-03-07 12:30pm

oh i would be MAAAAAAD

they have to notify you of something like that
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Posted: 11-03-07 12:36pm

Most schools have an anti bully policy, I would ask your school's officials to see it and how they plan to enforce it.
Ask them if you should call the news to report their negligence or if they would like to handle the concern now.
The sad thing is the little tyrant that is picking on Brian is probably doing so because of lack of parenting and probably really low self esteem. He's probably got a crappy life and to justify his life he picks on others. It will get worse until he really hurts someone...or worse.
I'm really sorry your are going through this Michelle. I hope you get the situation solved.
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Posted: 11-03-07 12:42pm

UGH, I hate bullies! I Don't know how you kept your cool, you must be good at holding your tongue. I really hope she shows up at this meeting, Mich, she needs to be told off & she needs to handle her son. What are you gonna do if nothing changes? I was bullied big time when I was little, I hate hearing about this Sad


brian is such a cutie though!
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Posted: 11-03-07 12:42pm

I agree with everything Mommy35 (sorry my brain has frozen and i've forgot you name) says.

I hope it gets resolved quickly. This is my number 1 fear. I would move my child to another school or home school. Anything to avoid it
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Posted: 11-03-07 12:52pm

OMG!!! Don't let this go or it will never end! This is the reason why Im putting Amelia in karate. That little boy probably runs all over his parents. It shows that he doesnt get punished for his wrongs. Definantly not taking up for him but There maybe some issues going on at home that causes his rage.
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Posted: 11-03-07 15:11pm

MICHELLE!!! Transfer my nephew out of that school!

My mom has the SAME EXACT situation with my little brother.. the principal knew about it and actually laughed and was like, *Yeah, hes a brat, but what can we do?* The kids parents didnt care either..

so she pulled him out of school and put him in a private catholic school in downtown orlando.

I hate bullies.. if i had the bawlz to beat up little kids...
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Posted: 11-03-07 19:15pm

that so wrong, i would be contacting everyone the news the school district everyone would hear my wrath i hope they get it resolved. here that kid would have been suspended at the very least
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Posted: 11-03-07 19:23pm

Poor kid. This is so disgusting . I dont think I move my son to another shcool i would much rather have the bully expelled. Sorry mich!
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Posted: 11-03-07 20:25pm

This is not acceptable. If the teacher has serious concerns, I certainly hope that they are having meetings to determine if that other child is in a correct placement. I wouldn't doubt if that child has done that to other students as well.

I would request a meeting with the principal, teacher, psychologist, counselor and other staff. This is what I tell all parents who have issues like this. If you only talk to one or two people at different times, things are not likely to change or they may but not as quickly. Your son should not be the one to change schools because of it!! If you get no where with your school, call the district office.

***Just reread! I honestly don't know if I would want my child in a school where the principal shrugged it off. I have never worked in a school like that. There is a serious legal issue. You are doing great by contacting the superintendent. I would show pics. The fact that they didn't even call you about it is extremely unacceptable. The principal should be fired. You shouldn't have to meet with the mother of this child. I wouldn't want to. The school should be handling it.
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Posted: 11-03-07 20:51pm

ladylee70 wrote:
I would request a meeting with the principal, teacher, psychologist, counselor and other staff.

When i had the surprise meeting with both VP & Principal, i asked them why a meeting between myself, the other mother, the teacher, the social worker & the principals have yet to come together. The VP replied "I don't think it's necessary". Can you believe that??? I demanded a meeting, and i'll let you guys know what comes of it Monday. That's if she shows Rolling Eyes .



Mommy35 wrote:
Most schools have an anti bully policy, I would ask your school's officials to see it and how they plan to enforce it.

They work with kids individually. They claim they have a "plan", but because of the privacy policy, they cannot tell me anything. That's ridicules!!! They claimed they couldn't even tell me how they were going to punish him. They eventually said that he lost he recess for the day... BIG consequence eh? Rolling Eyes


Nancy, they told me that they don't just expel them. Believe me, i would love for him to be removed from the school! They provide an "intervention". But for that to work, the parents would need to be involved and take interest, which i don't believe they do. That's exactly why he's like he is.

Dani - My plan is to have this meeting with the mother, and take what i learn from that and make a complaint with the Toronto District School Board. If nothing, then i head to the news!

Has anyone seen 'The Hand That Rocks The Cradle'?

Thanks for listening guys!!
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Posted: 11-03-07 21:04pm

Ugh, I hate when the school is nice and uncooperative. My nephew is dealing with almost the same issue, so bad my nephew just takes it he won't even tell the teachers anymore because they don't believe him. I sort of know how you feel, and I hope they do something to this kid, it's not fair to Brian!! Sad Good luck
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Posted: 11-03-07 21:17pm

well mich it's too bad that they wont take further action such as expelling on this bully. Bullying is becoming an epidemic. It has serious reprocussions and i'm so afraid for my son when he goes to school. I hope your baby is ok....poor thing he must feel so afraid and lost. I was bullied a few times and i felt so worthless ....Sad
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Posted: 11-03-07 21:20pm

I don't know how you kept your cool, I got mad just reading that.

How dare they sit back and do nothing. Why should the bully and his mother get away with his bad behavor and her lack of parenting skills?

I'm sorry you are dealing with this.
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Posted: 11-03-07 21:30pm

Emma2 wrote:
well mich it's too bad that they wont take further action such as expelling on this bully. Bullying is becoming an epidemic. It has serious reprocussions and i'm so afraid for my son when he goes to school. I hope your baby is ok....poor thing he must feel so afraid and lost. I was bullied a few times and i felt so worthless ....Sad

Even his teacher noticed Brian becoming anxious just being near him.

"Bullying is becoming an epidemic" - I agree with this statement 100%. Bullies now a days are much meaner. When Brian was in grade 1, this girl classmate placed a thumb tack on his chair Shocked

Brian's ok now. If you think the outside of his mouth is bad, the inside is so much worse.

Tanya - It took every once of strength. It did get alittle heated, but that's only when she danced around my questions.
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Posted: 11-03-07 21:34pm

just hold him and tell him everything is ok, and then have Brian SR teach him how to beat some ass lol.
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Posted: 11-03-07 21:36pm

Brian's ok now. If you think the outside of his mouth is bad, the inside is so much worse.

god i can imagine. He's just a little boy how do you look at this boy and explain what has happened to him? its not normal...they are children!

i think bullying is a direct result of those HS killings and such.....those kids we're bullied and taunted.... it can really scar a child ...tell brain to stand up for himself and to never be afraid.
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Posted: 11-03-07 21:44pm

Emma2 wrote:
i think bullying is a direct result of those HS killings and such.....those kids we're bullied and taunted.... it can really scar a child ...tell brain to stand up for himself and to never be afraid.

ABSOLUTELY! And it's so scary just thinking about it!

Sandy_Pants wrote:
just hold him and tell him everything is ok, and then have Brian SR teach him how to beat some ass lol.

We have always taught Brian that if someone is throwing nasty words at you, walk away. If they hit you, tell the nearest adult. Now, i would love for Brian to beat his a$$!!! That kid feeds off of Brian's vulnerability.

personally, i would love to throw caca in his moms face!
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Posted: 11-03-07 21:48pm

you know what...i told my nephew at the begining of the year...some kids were teasing him about being the new kid in school..i told him to get in thier face and say "so what , im the new kid , whats are u gonna do about it" and if they resorted to violence i told him to fight back and not just take that sh@t..yeah its not right i guess but its self defense...and also did state do not ever hit someone 1st. sometimes u have to teach them to fight back.
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Posted: 11-03-07 21:52pm

Emma2 wrote:
you know what...i told my nephew at the begining of the year...some kids were teasing him about being the new kid in school..i told him to get in thier face and say "so what , im the new kid , whats are u gonna do about it" and if they resorted to violence i told him to fight back and not just take that sh@t..yeah its not right i guess but its self defense...and also did state do not ever hit someone 1st. sometimes u have to teach them to fight back.

Brian's too sensitive, and it works against him at school.
Brian's dad already told him that if this kid hits him again, to punch him as hard as he can. I just don't thin k he'll do it.

Bullies feed off of weakness.
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