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Posted: 08-13-07 07:31am
Bring back smacking children! I think it's
a mistake that now if a parent smacks
their child in public they can get
reported to the police. Sometimes it's the
only way to get through to a kid and
stopping them from doing something
dangerous.
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Beline
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Posted: 04-10-08 10:56am
Amen!
I was spanked as a child, and I actually
don’t have any emotional scares today. I
have a very, very close relationship with
both my parents.
Today I am a parent myself, and yes, I do
spank every now and then. But I have to
add - my child is very well behaved, so I
hardly ever have to spank her. As a matter
of fact: I don’t think my child has had
a spanking this year.
Or maybe it’s because she gets a smack
on the bottom every now and then that she
is well behaved?
For some reason people don’t understand
the difference between spanking and child
abuse.
(My guess is I just made myself very
unpopular with a lot of people)
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sweet_mom
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Posted: 04-23-08 16:03pm
I think that there are better ways to
discipline your child.
What do you do when your child hits
another child or yourself?
For me,I try to avoid spanking because I
want my son to learn that it is bad to hit
other people,and what kind of example
would I be setting if I spanked my son and
then told him not to hit other people?
Kids are like sponges they take everything
in,it doesn't matter what you tell them to
do or not to do,the important thing is to
model the behaviour that you want them to
follow.
If a child sees his/her father beating the
mother than chances are the child will see
that and think 'oh it's ok to hit because
daddy does it' and vice versa with the
mother.
I don't think that a simple smack on the
bottom is child abuse,I just think that
parents should find other ways to
discipline.
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Beline
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Posted: 04-23-08 16:42pm
To shorten my response I will just refer
you to ‘Disciplining your child - what
works for you?’ I explained how I go
about it there. I hope you don’t mind.
And again, I was spanked as a child, and I
never even entertained the idea of raising
my hands to my parents. Nor did I ever hit
another child.
I basically raise my child the same way my
parents raised me (I’m not quite as
strict though) and she has never hit
another child either. As long as a child
understands that he gets spanked because
he was naughty or to stop them from doing
something dangerous as Benc152 said, and
not because you hate him, there should be
no problem.
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rainstorm
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Posted: 04-23-08 23:52pm
Just because you were spanked as a child
and don't think you have any scars doesn't
mean:
That you don't have any
or
that it's a good idea to spank.
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Beline
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Posted: 04-24-08 02:15am
It’s not as if I ‘think’ I don’t
have any scars. I know I don’t have any.
I have a wonderful relationship with my
parents. Always had. They are the most
amazing, loving, caring people you can
imagine. Whenever I went through though
times in my life, they were always my soft
place to fall.
I aim to be that kind of parent for my own
little princess. I guess everybody has
their own parenting style, and what works
for one child will most definitely not
work for the next.
I don’t think my mother ever spanked my
brother because it just wasn’t
necessary. He was a good child. As for
myself, well, I think I deserved a couple
of more hidings than I actually got. Lol.
But it taught me that there were
consequences for bad behavior.
It shaped me into a responsible person
that always thinks about the consequences
of my decisions. And of course I have a
very strong sense of what is right and
what is wrong. Thus the career I followed
as a fraud assessor.
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Posted: 04-24-08 20:24pm
I was spanked as a child and I remember
thinking at the time that had to be the
worst punishment in the world. I didn't
get many spankings. I'm by no means
scarred
I agree that it isn't the best way to deal
with your kids, but I did spank my
daughter, but rarely. I saved spankings
for things that were very unsafe (like
going in the road, going near the river,
etc) luckily she didn't need many either
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Posted: 04-24-08 21:43pm
when my son tries to run out into the road
I will pull him close to me get down on
his level and tell him that it is
dangerous and that he should not run out
where the cars drive.
I think this is a better approach(for me
anyway) than spanking because it teaches
him communication as well.
This is all just my opinion and I don't
want people to think I'm saying spanking
is child abuse,because I don't think it is
unless you are smacking with the intent to
seriously harm the child.
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Posted: 04-28-08 13:19pm
I have to agree with both Sweetmom and
Mommy35. Spanking should be a last resort.
I never spank my child for being naughty
if I haven’t taken the time to explain
why she shouldn’t do something. And as
Sweetmom said: get down to their level,
explain in a soft tone, and don’t make
them feel guilty for doing something
wrong, because they didn’t know that it
was wrong.
Rainstorm, I understood what you meant
with ‘scars’. If I had physical scars
I would be the first to admit that I was
abused by my parents. But I wasn’t, and
I will never physically abuse my precious
little princess.
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Posted: 04-28-08 18:10pm
I don't think anybody should "smack" their
kids. Even the sound of it turns my
stomach. The title of this thread gives me
disturbing mental images of parents
beating their children fiercely.
As far as physical dicipline, I think in
most cases there are better alternatives.
My daughter will be 2 in August and is a
very stubborn and willful little girl, and
so far we have had no need to spank her.
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Posted: 05-12-08 17:18pm
I was spanked quite a bit as a child.
There's only one I really remember, and
that was because I had run away.
If you kids are well behaved and sitting
in the corner makes them understand they
did wrong, then there is no need for
spanking. But I know I will surely spank
my kids if they behave badly.
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sweet_mom
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Posted: 05-13-08 10:55am
I give my son time outs.
I think that when you say "I know I will
surely spank my kids if they behave badly"
is not the best thing.You are saying that
you will spank your kids without even
trying the other options.Some children
don't respond well to spanking and would
do better with timeouts.I think that you
should try the timeouts and talking with
the child before you resort to spanking.
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Posted: 05-13-08 12:08pm
I definitely agree. I think there are
better methods of discipline than
physical, and they're worth trying. Your
baby is only a couple of months old and
you've already decided to spank her? You
don't even know for sure if she would
respond better to alternative forms of
discipline.
I do hope you'll take the time to research
different methods of discipline and find
out what works for your child before
resorting to hitting them. Making your
mind up now to raise your hand to your
child is, in my opinion, disturbing.
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Posted: 05-27-08 15:24pm
Shoot I completely agree with smacking the
kid...if i was crying in a restaurant for
no reason..my mom took my butt to the
bathroom and gave me a reason to cry! and
after one trip to the bathroom that shut
me right up next time she said she was
gonna take me back there! Theres a fine
line between abuse/dicipline but i cant
say that every spanking I got when I was
little I didn't deserve..after multiple
warning and "no's" sometimes you just
gotta take it to the next level to get the
point across...i was spanked as a
child..and i have no problems....i
deserved it haha
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Posted: 05-27-08 17:16pm
Ah! The voice of reason. But careful
though, Worrywart! Just now Rainstorm will
insinuate that you participate in
masochistic sex.
AyaMiyaki, most parents do the best they
can when raising their children. We all
make mistakes, but still - we do the best
we can with what we have. To some it is
taking personal experience as a guide
line, others read up on the matter, and
some go by logic and intuition. Don’t
call people’s ideals to be a good parent
‘disturbing’. That is just harsh and
rude.
If Lily Ivy feels that one day she would
consider spanking her child if necessary,
it’s her prerogative.
And no, I don’t believe there is a fine
line between spanking and discipline.
It’s an enormous difference. I would
never abuse my child, but I do spank. My
little girl is a well mannered, sweetheart
with a lovely disposition.
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sweet_mom
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Posted: 05-27-08 21:25pm
but the way lily ivy worded her
response,it sounded as though she had
already made up her mind and had decided
that she would spank before trying any
other method.
In my opinion spanking should be the
absolute last method,after using timeouts
and verbal reprimands.
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Beline
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Posted: 05-28-08 02:06am
I do think that she made up her mind
already, and there is nothing wrong with
that. I did before my daughter was born.
So did my parents, and their parents etc.
If you could see the relationship my
daughter and I have you would understand
that she is my world and vice versa. We
are much closer than any other
mother/daughter that if encountered the
past year or two. We do everything
together.
The point that I’m trying to make is
that I personally don’t agree with time
outs. My daughter is too sensitive for
that and she interprets it as rejection.
It just doesn’t work for my little
sensitive soul.(but again: to each his
own)
I spank her bottom, give her a hug, dry
her tears, and we go play. The nice thing
about this is that I can take her ANYWHERE
- to a restaurant, friends, church - and
she never takes over. She is well behaved,
and is welcome everywhere because she is
so well behaved.
I lost a lot of friends because they
believe in alternative forms of
discipline. I personally can’t stand
children that throw temper tantrums. They
just make my blood boil. And because of
these little brats I hardly have any
friends left. They are just not welcome in
my home, and it is my home after all. I
don’t want to clean up after other
people’s children or want to endure
their shouting matches. I think people
that shout are lesser mortals anyway. If
you can’t control your temper, you
won’t be able to control any situation,
let alone raise a well adapted child.
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Posted: 05-28-08 06:45am
Beline
wrote:
AyaMiyaki, most parents do
the best they can when raising their
children. We all make mistakes, but still
- we do the best we can with what we have.
To some it is taking personal experience
as a guide line, others read up on the
matter, and some go by logic and
intuition. Don’t call people’s ideals
to be a good parent ‘disturbing’. That
is just harsh and rude.
If Lily Ivy feels that one day she would
consider spanking her child if necessary,
it’s her
prerogative.
You misunderstood me. I wasn't calling her
attempts to be a good parent disturbing. I
said that, in my opinion, the idea that
she's decided to spank her child before
even TRYING other methods that don't
involve physical violence... THAT is what
is disturbing to me.
There are so many forms of discipline out
there. Many experts today believe that
physical discipline does not work and can
actually be damaging. I understand if you
found that physical discipline works for
you, but I assume your daughter is still
young. I wonder what you will do when your
daughter is too old to spank?
Discipline is about teaching your children
right from wrong. It isn't about punishing
them. Causing pain to a child for doing
something wrong makes my heart hurt. I
would much rather TEACH my child, whether
it be by time-out (Go sit down for 10
minutes and think about what you did),
writing lines (I will not hit my brother
because it hurts him), or what have you.
And afterward, getting down on their eye
level and calmly explaining why they were
disciplined and that I know they can do
better next time. We're not supposed to
hurt our children and make them fear us
physically. We're supposed to mold them
into better people and teach them right
from wrong.
If you've found that physical discipline
works best for your daughter, then that's
fine. Lilly Ivy's daughter is only a few
months old, and she has already chosen an
aggressive (in my opinion) form of
discipline without even considering or
trying the others. And yes, to me that is
disturbing. I would personally exhaust all
other options before I would raise a hand
to my child.
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