NA, I wish you all the best. I hope you
have no problem conceiving when you are
ready and you have healthy
babies.
Gah! You're right; I didn't even realise
it was aimed at NA. I'm reporting the
post.
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Birch
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Posted: 11-24-07 19:18pm
Ah, Cambion, don't you know you can't have
strong dissenting opinions on this board?
People are way too touchy for honesty.
(*I don't agree with Cambion's statement,
but I do believe she has the right to say
it.)
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Cambion
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Posted: 11-24-07 19:44pm
It's funny how pro-lifers can tell me they
hope I don't have kids and it's just
dandy, but when I dare express the same
opinion toward a pro-liar, everyone gets
their panties in a wad.
Oh well...if NA's hubby was shooting
blanks, she'd probably just conceive her
mini-fundie with some bit on the side and
say it's her partner's offspring. Pro-life
beliefs are rooted in deception anyway, so
this wouldn't be too far of a hurdle for
the average pro-liar. If NA does get
cursed - I mean 'blessed' with brats,
hopefully they'll all grow up to be
homosexual atheist pro-choice childfree
rockstars.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-24-07 19:46pm
Your disgusting - I mean, "dissenting" -
opinion had nothing to do with debates on
this forum. It was simply meant to be
hurtful. You do NOT have the right to hurt
people's feelings so callously. It is not
professional, polite, OR acceptable.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 11-24-07 20:59pm
Is there any place on this website that
spells out the rules clearly? Like
something to read that explains what is
and is not acceptable, something that
explains this, for example:
"You do NOT have the right to hurt
people's feelings so callously. It is not
professional, polite, OR acceptable."
The reason I'm confused is because Cambion
is right when she says this:
"It's funny how pro-lifers can tell me
they hope I don't have kids and it's just
dandy, but when I dare express the same
opinion toward a pro-liar, everyone gets
their panties in a wad. "
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-24-07 21:21pm
Yes there ARE rules on this site. They are
stickied at the top of every single forum.
Here's the link to the one right here in
Abortion Debate:
http://ehealthfor
um.com/health/topic44943.html
Personally, the argument shouldn't be
"pro-lifers get away with it so I can
too", it should be "pro-lifers need to be
punished too".
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Cambion
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Posted: 11-24-07 23:41pm
Eiri, in case you haven't noticed, pretty
much all the topics started in this forum
de-rail at some point. You speak as if
going off-topic is some new concept. And
professionalism on a public debate forum?
Let's not play pretend, okay?
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Rodge
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Posted: 11-25-07 07:54am
It's still unacceptable to wish
infertility on someone. It's not that
you've gone off-topic, it's that you said
something that crossed the line.
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msrosie
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Posted: 11-25-07 10:33am
For the record, I have not said Cambion
should be censored for it, I just said it
was mean. I've had prolifers tell me I
shouldn't have kids and it doesn't bother
me because I have no intention of
reproducing. However, if I was trying to
get pregnant or wanting to in the future -
THEN it would be an insult.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-25-07 10:47am
Cambion
wrote:
Eiri, in case you haven't
noticed, pretty much all the topics
started in this forum de-rail at some
point. You speak as if going off-topic is
some new concept. And professionalism on a
public debate forum? Let's not play
pretend, okay?
Going off topic and insulting someone are
two different things. I don't see how your
comment is related to this discussion.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-25-07 10:48am
msrosie
wrote:
For the record, I have not
said Cambion should be censored for it, I
just said it was mean. I've had prolifers
tell me I shouldn't have kids and it
doesn't bother me because I have no
intention of reproducing. However, if I
was trying to get pregnant or wanting to
in the future - THEN it would be an
insult.
Do you feel either side should have the
right to insult the other? As NA is indeed
TTC, Cambion's comment was cruel and
unacceptable in my opinion. Then again I'm
big for being nice to one another unless
provoked.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 11-25-07 11:18am
Eiri
wrote:
Your disgusting - I mean,
"dissenting" - opinion had nothing to do
with debates on this forum. It was simply
meant to be hurtful. You do NOT have the
right to hurt people's feelings so
callously. It is not professional, polite,
OR
acceptable.
Hi, thanks for the link, Here's what the
forum guidelines say:
Here's the first part:
Quote:
You agree not to
post any abusive, obscene, vulgar,
slanderous, hateful, threatening,
sexually-oriented or any other material
that may violate any applicable laws.
Does this mean language that violates a
law is not allowed, or is it more than
that?
Here's the rest of it:
Quote:
Doing so may lead to you being immediately
and permanently banned (and your service
provider being informed). The ip address
of all posts is recorded to aid in
enforcing these conditions. You agree that
the webmaster, administrator and
moderators of this forum have the right to
remove, edit, move or close any topic at
any time should they see fit. As a user
you agree to any information you have
entered above being stored in a database.
While this information will not be
disclosed to any third party without your
consent. The webmaster, administrator and
moderators cannot be held responsible for
any hacking attempt that may lead to the
data being
compromised.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-25-07 11:45am
The key word is OR.
You agree not to post any abusive,
obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful,
threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that
may violate any applicable laws.
So you should not post comments that are
abuse OR illegal. You can't do either.
Heck, they could be abusive AND illegal
but they don't necessarily have to be.
Just being abusive is bad. Just being
illegal is bad. They aren't the same
thing. Do not post abusive comments. Do
not post illegal content.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 11-25-07 11:50am
Gotcha, thanks.
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Cambion
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Posted: 11-25-07 13:10pm
Quote:
Going off topic
and insulting someone are two different
things. I don't see how your comment is
related to this
discussion.
It wasn't. But the original discussion
de-railed anyway, so does it make a
difference whether or not I related my
comments to the discussion?
Quote:
You agree not to
post any abusive, obscene, vulgar,
slanderous, hateful, threatening,
sexually-oriented or any other material
that may violate any applicable laws.
Well let's see...my posts were not abusive
because I did not wish harm on anyone
(infertility is not a disease, contrary to
popular belief). Were not obscene or
vulgar - note I did not curse at all. They
were not slanderous - NA doesn't have a
good name to be tarnished. Wasn't
hateful...I don't like NA because I think
she's a lot of things that would be
considered obscene or vulgar, but I didn't
go out of my way to be totally toxic (I
will give you toxic if that's what you
want). I certainly did not threaten
anyone, nor did I sexually harass anyone.
So, in conclusion, my posts that are in
question did not violate any of the forum
rules, so everyone who is getting all
whiny about them can un-wad their panties
now.
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Jules
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Posted: 11-25-07 13:16pm
Cambion - you were abusive by wishing
misfortune on a fellow member of this
board. You may not view infertility as
unfortunate but nightangel would and you
know that.
