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Ttc While Breastfeeding Posted: 10-27-07 13:04pm
Yes, it's me! It's official - we're trying
for baby #2!
My cycle didn't return for almost a year
after giving birth, and they're completely
irregular. I really think breastfeeding is
playing havok on my system. I'm not sure
if I'm ovulating yet or not, and it's
really starting to depress me. Advice?
Opinions?
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mc4ever02
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Posted: 10-27-07 14:57pm
I'm so happy for you that you guys have
'officially' started ttc. You make such
beautiful children.
Are you still breastfeeding her
exclusively? Pumping? During the night?
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 10-27-07 15:06pm
Thanks!
I wouldn't say exclusively - she eats
table foods for all of her official meals
and snacks. But she nurses off and on
all day
long, and we cosleep at night so
she has a boob a few times a night. I'm
being completely honest when I say she's
addicted to the boob! I think most of it
is a comfort thing, but I'm really trying
to gently wean her now. I offer her whole
milk in a cup before bed and during meals,
and water in a sippy inbetween, but she
prefers the boob.
I wouldn't be worried about weaning her at
all, except my cycle is all over the
place. I can only assume that
breastfeeding is still affecting my
hormones, which are affecting my system.
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Posted: 10-27-07 15:19pm
From what I understand, if you could just
ween her from feeding at night it may
cause you to start ovulating again. I
would be pretty comfortable in saying that
you aren't ovulating. You may have before,
and you still could at any time. However,
I doubt that your estrogen has returned to
the levels needed to cause ovulation or to
receive a period (I also have very low
estrogen, so I can relate) The difference
is, yours is probably going to be easier
to fix. I suggest that you start trying to
wean her from her night time feedings then
work your way up from there if that
doesn't do the trick.
There are some herbal treatments that are
said to increase natural estrogen.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure if they are
safe to use while breastfeeding and I
would never want to recommend something
that I'm not sure would be 100% safe.
However, if you want you can pm me and I
tell you what they are if you want to ask
your doctor about them.
Personal question: Feel free not to
answer, Do you think you will be
comfortable enough bding to start trying
right now? Or have you guys been able to
get back into the swing of things?
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Posted: 10-27-07 15:31pm
Oh absolutely. Sex isn't a problem
anymore. It only took, what, the better
part of a year?
Her nighttime feeds are going to be the
hardest for her to give up. I have a
better shot of getting her off her daytime
feeds than nighttime. We cosleep, so
she'll roll over and start feeling for a
boob then drift right back off to sleep
while she nurses. If she can't find one
(say, if I'm rolled the other way) she
wakes up and starts crying.
That's a huge part of why I'm so depressed
right now - I'm pretty sure I'm not
ovulating. Alyvia's not making weaning
easy either, which only makes me more
frustrated. Do you think if I
started cutting back on her day feedings
(not that it'll be easy) it might have
some affect?
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Posted: 10-27-07 15:39pm
Absolutely, cutting back on the daytime
feedings would do the same thing. I just
suggested that you try the night feedings
because I thought it may be easier on both
of you.
Do you think it is more of an habit, that
she is still breast feeding? I know you
mentioned that you are giving her whole
milk, but have you tried maybe pumping and
seeing how she would take to that? Because
if she would take the bottle/cup of breast
milk during the day so that she wasn't
hungry enough for the actual breast, she
could still have the comfort/bonding from
the night time feedings, and pumping
doesn't provide the nipple stimulation
needed to suppress estrogen.
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Posted: 10-27-07 15:48pm
Unfortunately, pumping has never worked
for me. I can sit there for 30 minutes and
get maybe an ounce of milk.
Manual pumps worked better than electric,
but even then... I could barely get
anything out. I wish I could! I think
she's iffy about whole milk because it's
cold, and she's used to breastmilk which
is obviously warm. Not to mention a sippy
cup is not a boob. I swear, she loves
boobs. She'll nurse from one and play with
the other, then switch. She tries to take
them out while we're in public (like at
church!) or she'll shove her arm down my
shirt and grope.
It's absolutely a habit for her, and it's
one I'm trying to break. I'll try to crack
down with the sippy cup and try to
distract her when she wants to nurse. I
really, really want to ovulate again.
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Posted: 10-27-07 16:03pm
Sorry, I can't help any with ways to help
her wean. I've never been there myself.
But, I hope it goes smoothly for you.
I will look online and see if I can find
out exactly how much you can breastfeed
and still ovulate.
I also know that once babies are a certain
age, regardless of breatfeeding frequency,
the mother can resuming regular ovulation.
I'd bet that is what is happening to you.
That would be why your cycle has come back
a few times, it just isn't regular yet. It
will get there. I'd bet that you have
ovulated before. And even if you can't
wean her soon, it still may return on its
own.
I saw in your other post that your last
cycle was on 9/22. How many cycles have
you had before that? It there any way that
you are pregnancy now?
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Posted: 10-27-07 16:57pm
I've had 3 or 4 since giving birth. I very
much doubt that I'm pregnant right now -
there was a span of about 3 weeks
inbetween my last two periods, and I
freaked out and tested twice. I think if I
bought a test and saw a negative right now
I might lose it.
I was hoping to at least get another
period soon so I can get a rough idea of
how long my cycles are now. Before I got
pregnant the first time, they were like
clockwork. It's so frustrating to be going
through this now. Maybe this is my penance
for getting pregnant so easily last time?
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Posted: 10-27-07 17:31pm
I hope you get pregnant just as easily the
second time. It all comes down to timing.
(look at Bridget )
This is some advice that I found online:
There are
alternatives to night weaning if baby
won’t go for it. The general consensus
is that if you can go at least six hours
between a feeding at least once a day, it
may trigger ovulation. Doing it during the
day may be easier, as you can distract the
baby with other activities and, if he is
ready, supplement with solids. (It is
important not to deprive baby if he is
really hungry, but by six months he should
be able to go longer without eating and
should be old enough for solids.)
Pretty much everything says that it will
be up to the individual (as with any
fertility issues) I also read that is may
be more difficult for thin women to regain
ovulation while breastfeeding/weaning. You
may want to consider putting on a few
pounds, just to see if that helps. But,
that you would only be if you are
comfortable with that.
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Posted: 10-27-07 22:30pm
Whoops, what I meant to say was that my
last period was 3 weeks late.
There was an additional three weeks
between my periods. It was almost a month
late, and I was convinced I was pregnant.
But no, just my body messed up.
Ooh, six hours? I think I can swing 6
hours! I'm definitely going to try that!
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Posted: 10-27-07 22:39pm
Laura....welcome to the trying side
It so awesome that you guys are trying for
number 2... I just want #1 but I will be
patient.
I think you will have a good age
difference between Alyvia and a new baby.
Good Luck - And
TONS OF BABY DUST!!!!
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Posted: 10-27-07 22:47pm
Thank you so much!
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Posted: 10-28-07 05:03am
Yay good for you! Why not get some
ovulation tests. That's why I'm doing
right now. I haven't ovulated so far
either.
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Posted: 10-29-07 18:32pm
We made it three hours yesterday - not the
6 I was hoping for, but it's progress! I'm
feeling kind of bloated and crampy, so I'm
praying for AF to show
sometime this week.
Becks: I'm going to try to do this without
ovulation tests. I'm going to ask Aaron if
it's okay that I buy a BBT thermometer,
but that's about all the expense I can
shell out without feeling too guilty
(besides preggy tests at the dollar store)
- especially since I don't think I'm
ovulating at all yet. I am
charting though, and if I get a BBT
thermometer, I'll be super happy.
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Posted: 10-30-07 08:33am
I really think it will be worth your time.
It might take a week or two to get into
the habit of taking it at the same time.
But once you do, it gets very addictive.
And you feel horrible if you miss a day.
Like you have absolutely no idea what is
going on otherwise. (I think my
thermometer costs $7, so they are pretty
cheap)
I'm glad you two are making some progress.
It will take some time, but I think you
can make it. And like I said before,
ovulation might come back before you get
her to the six hour mark, unfortunately,
there is no way of knowing. Just a lot of
waiting!
Another thing I wanted to suggest was
prenatal vitamins. We all know that they
are good to take while ttc. However,
sometimes, the body won't ovulate if it
feels it can't support a pregnancy
(nutrition/supplement wise) and because
you are breast feeding (and that takes
alot of nutrients from you) maybe it would
help to be putting some back in?