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Is early pregnancy embryo a "baby"?

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Posted: 10-29-07 23:00pm

Bunny_ wrote:

Sandy_Pants wrote:

Bunny_ wrote:

I was told that I could never have children, so to me this pregnancy is a miracle. Just my opinion. You don't have to agree. Smile

i just noticed ur in my favorite city in the whole wide world!!

I thought that's where you were from. Razz

I love Chicago. Especially downtown.

OMG girl i could spend HOURS at Buckingham Fountain!

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Posted: 10-29-07 23:02pm

Sandy_Pants wrote:

Bunny_ wrote:

Sandy_Pants wrote:

Bunny_ wrote:

I was told that I could never have children, so to me this pregnancy is a miracle. Just my opinion. You don't have to agree. Smile

i just noticed ur in my favorite city in the whole wide world!!

I thought that's where you were from. Razz

I love Chicago. Especially downtown.

OMG girl i could spend HOURS at Buckingham Fountain!

Me too! You ever went to the taste?

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Posted: 10-29-07 23:17pm


I lived in Chicago once. (query: where has Eiri NOT lived!?)

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Posted: 10-29-07 23:18pm

Bunny_ wrote:

Sandy_Pants wrote:

Bunny_ wrote:

Sandy_Pants wrote:

Bunny_ wrote:

I was told that I could never have children, so to me this pregnancy is a miracle. Just my opinion. You don't have to agree. Smile

i just noticed ur in my favorite city in the whole wide world!!

I thought that's where you were from. Razz

I love Chicago. Especially downtown.

OMG girl i could spend HOURS at Buckingham Fountain!

Me too! You ever went to the taste?

omg i have wanted to go to the taste of chicago every year since i moved here but i havent been able to. i hear its AWESOME.

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Posted: 10-29-07 23:30pm

Sandy_Pants wrote:

Bunny_ wrote:

Sandy_Pants wrote:

Bunny_ wrote:

Sandy_Pants wrote:

Bunny_ wrote:

I was told that I could never have children, so to me this pregnancy is a miracle. Just my opinion. You don't have to agree. Smile

i just noticed ur in my favorite city in the whole wide world!!

I thought that's where you were from. Razz

I love Chicago. Especially downtown.

OMG girl i could spend HOURS at Buckingham Fountain!

Me too! You ever went to the taste?

omg i have wanted to go to the taste of chicago every year since i moved here but i havent been able to. i hear its AWESOME.

It is! Too many people though & they always happen to have it on the hottest week of summer. Cool

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Posted: 10-30-07 14:24pm

Eiri wrote:

Futureshock is saying this:

If you are sexually active, there is no way for you to know for SURE that your latest period wasn't actually a miscarriage unless you're testing for pregnancy every single day. So, since there is a chance you just miscarried, you should be sad every single month because a potential baby could have just died.

ARE YOU MY SOUL MATE OR LONG LOST DAUGHTER OR WHAT?????

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Posted: 10-30-07 14:25pm

Birch wrote:

You inspired me to look up the definition of the word "miracle", Breizzy.

I found this:

1. An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God: “Miracles are spontaneous, they cannot be summoned, but come of themselves” (Katherine Anne Porter).
2. One that excites admiring awe. See synonyms at wonder.
3. A miracle play.

I'm thinkin' conception just ain't one of 'em.

rofl!!!! I just spit coffee all over my laptop!!!!

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Posted: 10-30-07 14:30pm

Bunny_ wrote:

My water will break & I'm still going to be on here typing. Very
Happy

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just got myself put back together from the first coffee accident and it happened again!!!!!!

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Posted: 11-02-07 09:15am

I go to the hospital.. and you guys just keep chatting with out me...lol

Sandy_Pants wrote:

its not a miracle... its chance. its fate.

i agree with Futureshock.

And Breizzy... you mourn the fact that you have your period, which means you arent pregnant, and means another month of TTC.
NOT becuase you are thinking to yourself. *That might have been a viable baby and my body rejected it! How sad!*

A baby isnt considered stillborn til i *believe* after 19 weeks.. prior to that it is till a miscarriage. I can understand where you are coming from though. With a heartbeat, its still a baby. But its hard to become attached to something in a months time. Try having a stillborn baby at 20 weeks, or 28 weeks.. after you have felt the baby ALIVE inside of you.. kicking, moving.. believe it or not, hiccups. THEN it becomes far more personal.

I know about miscarrying late... try 24 weeks... born alive.. gasping for air....She died before help c ould ge there.. and then having to deliver the little boy........ or having contractions that they couldnt stop.... and delivering at 26.. baby lived for 2 hours and then passed away. The stupid hospital believed in (back then) ... they didnt want to interfere.. cuz if the baby would live it was "god's plan" ... it was a very strict catholic hopsital.. now tho, they have a great neonatal unit.. Way too late.

And as for the miracle comment... I believe (my opinion) that when you get pregnant... it is a miracle. The baby is a miracle. I have been trying to concieve a healthy baby since my youngest one was born. He turned 4 just this past summer. People who have been TTC for a long time... then all of a sudden fall pregnant then to them.. it is a miracle. They could have the perfect timing every month.. and nothing happens... and then all of a sudden it happens..after years of ttc. ANyone who have experienced infertility would see it that way too. So i really dont care what anyone says.. getting pregnant to me is a miracle and to a whole bunch other people on one of my boards. ... people trying for even longer than me.
So technically they could be considered a miracle.. cuz they are 'spontaneous' and not summoned.... they come of themselves.....
The window israther slim if youthink about it. only 24 hours... little sperm have to swim through hostile environment... and the hormones have to be just right... for them to 'stick'... even IUI..,IVF is no guarantee to a baby.

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Posted: 11-02-07 14:34pm

Breizzy wrote:

And as for the miracle comment... I believe (my opinion) that when you get pregnant... it is a miracle. The baby is a miracle. .... ANyone who have experienced infertility would see it that way too. So i really dont care what anyone says.. getting pregnant to me is a miracle and to a whole bunch other people on one of my boards. ... people trying for even longer than me..

I understand that to some women it is, I was simply stating that it isn't for every woman.

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Posted: 11-05-07 13:35pm

Moo wrote:

Breizzy wrote:

I understand that to some women it is, I was simply stating that it isn't for every woman.

Which is exactly why the control of a woman's body must remain with each individual woman, because everyone and every situation is different.

Pro-lifers (people seeking to make abortion illegal) must be stopped in their tracks before they devalue all women by taking away their rights to control their own lives.