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Limiting How Many Abortions a Woman Can Have Posted: 10-12-07 15:47pm
I see in another thread, someone
suggesting that the number of abortions a
woman can have in a certain time frame be
limited. How do you (you as in anyone in
favour of doing this) propose to do this?
How would you enforce it? How do you stop
a woman from going to a different clinic
each time? Even if you required ID, ID is
very easy to get on the black market.
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Birch
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Posted: 10-12-07 15:51pm
I guess it'd be okay if you can limit the
number of kids someone can have...
*raises eyebrow*
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 10-12-07 15:52pm
it would basically follow the same
principle as buying alcohol.
peopel get fake ID's to buy it, but having
said that, its still far farrrr less than
if it was legal and not controlled.
There will always be people out there
doing what they can to kick the system in
the ass and try to say *Hey! You cant
control me!!*
i think its a good idea. I'm PL but I
accept the fact that abortion isnt going
anywhere. Women will always have the right
to do with their bodies as they see fit.
This would actually benefit both sides.
PC's would get the oportunity to stay in
control of their bodies, while PL would be
able to limit the number of babies being
*taken*.
Carry on.
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Posted: 10-12-07 17:27pm
Birch
wrote:
I guess it'd be okay if you
can limit the number of kids someone can
have... *raises
eyebrow*
I think this was a comment of mine waaay
back <_< lol. Or I posted something
similar.
I agree that limiting the number of
abortions AND children is a fair
precedent.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 10-12-07 17:48pm
I don't really think that's something you
can limit...... that would be forcing a
woman to conceive, wouldn't it? I'm not
for that in any situation. I would hope
that the cost and inconvenience of
abortions would be enough to dissuade
people from doing it multiple times.
Although I'm still not convinced that a
high percentage of women/girls do this or
that it's really a big problem.
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Limiting How Many Abortions a Woman Can Have Posted: 10-12-07 18:04pm
Isn't the real issue here the heart and
soul of women who keep conceiving children
without the thought process of what is
going to happen to them if the mother
decides to dump them in the garbage bin?
Life is sacred and a gift from God. Who
are any of us to say that is a throw away
like a piece of trash?
These babies are sent to us for life. Not
death. Sometimes, it seems that if it is
only for a few moments through conception,
even life in the womb, maybe that is all
that they required to achieve life here on
this place.
One lady wrote that she believes that
PC'ers say "you won't tell me what to do.
I will do it my way." That is all well
and good. But, there are consequences for
talking a life, let alone the life of your
own child. There are things that follow
like sorrow, depression and loss.
As I have said before, there are other
options. There are countless families
that would love to have your baby. Don't
give him or her up without consideration
that you too have a wonderful opportunity
to do something great with your child.
Life.
With respect.
Roberta
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Re: Limiting How Many Abortions a Woman Can Have Posted: 10-12-07 18:06pm
Roberta777
wrote:
Isn't the real issue here
the heart and soul of women who keep
conceiving children without the thought
process of what is going to happen to them
if the mother decides to dump them in the
garbage bin?
Life is sacred and a gift from God. Who
are any of us to say that is a throw away
like a piece of trash?
These babies are sent to us for life. Not
death. Sometimes, it seems that if it is
only for a few moments through conception,
even life in the womb, maybe that is all
that they required to achieve life here on
this place.
One lady wrote that she believes that
PC'ers say "you won't tell me what to do.
I will do it my way." That is all well
and good. But, there are consequences for
talking a life, let alone the life of your
own child. There are things that follow
like sorrow, depression and loss.
As I have said before, there are other
options. There are countless families
that would love to have your baby. Don't
give him or her up without consideration
that you too have a wonderful opportunity
to do something great with your child.
Life.
With respect.
Roberta
there arent enough adoptive familes. more
kids are being born and are unwanted then
there are people to adopt them
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Limiting How Many Abortions a Woman Can Have Posted: 10-12-07 18:13pm
What are the statistical facts that
support your statement that there are not
enough families to adopt children?
Last time I checked, it seems it takes
years for a family to be able to adopt a
child.
Thanks.
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Re: Limiting How Many Abortions a Woman Can Have Posted: 10-12-07 18:14pm
Roberta777
wrote:
Isn't the real issue here
the heart and soul of women who keep
conceiving children without the thought
process of what is going to happen to them
if the mother decides to dump them in the
garbage bin?
Life is sacred and a gift from God. Who
are any of us to say that is a throw away
like a piece of trash?
These babies are sent to us for life. Not
death. Sometimes, it seems that if it is
only for a few moments through conception,
even life in the womb, maybe that is all
that they required to achieve life here on
this place.
One lady wrote that she believes that
PC'ers say "you won't tell me what to do.
I will do it my way." That is all well
and good. But, there are consequences for
talking a life, let alone the life of your
own child. There are things that follow
like sorrow, depression and loss.
As I have said before, there are other
options. There are countless families
that would love to have your baby. Don't
give him or her up without consideration
that you too have a wonderful opportunity
to do something great with your child.
Life.
With respect.
Roberta
so true Roberta, and if they do end up in
an orpahages it's not like they stay there
the rest of their life. They grow up learn
from it and at least had a life to live..
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Re: Limiting How Many Abortions a Woman Can Have Posted: 10-12-07 18:50pm
meblonde01
wrote:
Roberta777
wrote:
Isn't the real issue here
the heart and soul of women who keep
conceiving children without the thought
process of what is going to happen to them
if the mother decides to dump them in the
garbage bin?
Life is sacred and a gift from God. Who
are any of us to say that is a throw away
like a piece of trash?
These babies are sent to us for life. Not
death. Sometimes, it seems that if it is
only for a few moments through conception,
even life in the womb, maybe that is all
that they required to achieve life here on
this place.
One lady wrote that she believes that
PC'ers say "you won't tell me what to do.
I will do it my way." That is all well
and good. But, there are consequences for
talking a life, let alone the life of your
own child. There are things that follow
like sorrow, depression and loss.
As I have said before, there are other
options. There are countless families
that would love to have your baby. Don't
give him or her up without consideration
that you too have a wonderful opportunity
to do something great with your child.
Life.
With respect.
Roberta
so true Roberta, and if they do end up in
an orpahages it's not like they stay there
the rest of their life. They grow up learn
from it and at least had a life to
live..
most of the pro-choicers here are very
negative people. They can't think the
child might end up with a loving family.
They always think the worst. That they are
going to be abused, that they will never
be loved, that all orphanages are
terrible. That oh my life is over if I had
a baby when I didn't planned. That oh I
won't be able to finish my career. That oh
I won't accomplish this and that.. For all
not one sinch of positivity. They don't
think they can succeed in life if
obstacles are presented to them. They are
loosers exactly, because that is the
attitude of the loosers. I can't, I
can't.. In that I take pride of being
pro-lifer. We have courage, we are not
negative but positive, we don't have a
looser attitude, we persist, we believe we
can do things and that we can succeed in
life regardless of the obstacles. We are
not afraid at what life will throw at us.
And for all we respect the human life,
even in the womb when many people think
they are worthless.
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Posted: 10-12-07 19:16pm
Most of the pro-choicers here don't care
about the potential child. We care about
current, born, living rights. I'll say
that right out. I do not care about the
embryo. Do I wish there was another way?
Yes. Do I wish birth control was more
effective? Yes. But there isn't, and it's
not. So we have abortion, and I will
defend the right for me to control my own
body to the death.
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Re: Limiting How Many Abortions a Woman Can Have Posted: 10-12-07 20:17pm
Roberta777
wrote:
One lady wrote that she believes that
PC'ers say "you won't tell me what to do.
I will do it my way." That is all well
and good. But, there are consequences for
talking a life, let alone the life of your
own child. There are things that follow
like sorrow, depression and loss.
With respect.
Roberta
Oh that's right. I'd much rather be tied
down and forced to gestate and give birth
against my will. I'm sure 9 months being
tied up and sick and ill culminating in
the worst agony most humans ever have to
experience, as bad as torture, giving
birth, is waaayyyy better than having an
abortion.
I'm sure I wouldn't be depressed or feel
sorrow or loss after an ordeal like forced
pregnancy and childbirth!
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Georgia59
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Posted: 10-12-07 20:20pm
Most couples are looking to adopt nice,
fresh babies, right out of the womb. They
don't care about the children already in
the system- they get pushed through
families and orphanages all their life.
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Re: Limiting How Many Abortions a Woman Can Have Posted: 10-12-07 21:05pm
futureshock
wrote:
I'm sure 9 months being tied up and sick
and ill culminating in the worst agony
most humans ever have to experience,
Are you joking? Way to over exaggerate,
futureshock. There are things much more
agonizing than the beauty of a human life
growing inside of you.
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Re: Limiting How Many Abortions a Woman Can Have Posted: 10-12-07 21:07pm
Roberta777
wrote:
What are the statistical
facts that support your statement that
there are not enough families to adopt
children?
Last time I checked, it seems it takes
years for a family to be able to adopt a
child.
Thanks.
Good grief. Its posted all over the place
in here.
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 10-12-07 21:10pm
Georgia59
wrote:
Most couples are looking to
adopt nice, fresh babies, right out of the
womb. They don't care about the children
already in the system- they get pushed
through families and orphanages all their
life.
not really. only til they are legal, at
18.
i'd rather know that my parents gave me to
an orphanage for the first 18 years of my
life, then having the next 60 or so to
make what i want of it, than to have been
killed before getting that chance.
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Posted: 10-12-07 21:33pm
And you'd know how Rain? Tell me how you'd
know you had been aborted.. especially
since most abortions happen long before
the embryo is even capable of feeling
pain? Long before its self aware.. tell me
how you'd know this.
Emotionalization in motion. Nothing more.
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 10-12-07 21:48pm
Jincks013
wrote:
And you'd know how Rain?
Tell me how you'd know you had been
aborted.. especially since most abortions
happen long before the embryo is even
capable of feeling pain? Long before its
self aware.. tell me how you'd know this.
Emotionalization in motion. Nothing
more.
let me rephrase that..
i'd rather know that my parents CHOSE to
keep me and give me up rather than abort
me and not give me any chance at all.
better?
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Posted: 10-12-07 22:34pm
Still doesn't tell me how you'd know you
were aborted.. but for now I'll accept the
obfuscation from you..
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Posted: 10-12-07 22:37pm
Jincks013
wrote:
Still doesn't tell me how
you'd know you were aborted.. but for now
I'll accept the obfuscation from
you..
who is trying to complicate things?
i never said i would *know* i had been
aborted.
i said that if my parents had given me up
for adoption that they OBVIOUSLY chose to
give me a chance at life rather than end
it.