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Q: I Am Pro-realistic
asked by: tnmommy on October 12th, 2007
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I hate to say it I personally would never have an abortion but I can understand both sides of the fence.

I cannot and will NEVER tell a woman who is a victim of incest or rape that they cannot end that life.

---I would see it as something that was meant to make me stronger if that had happened to me. (Yes I was a rape victim before anyone tries to say I have not been in their shoes.)

I cannot tell a woman that it is not right to end a pregnancy because it endangered their own lives.

---I personally could not do it and I was a high risk pregnancy with my daughter all throughout the pregnancy but she is healthy and I am getting my health back also.

I cannot tell a woman who finds out that there is something wrong with their child if he or she was to be born that they would just have to deal with it.

---I could not see myself giving up a child as I even refused to have the tests done that said the risks of certain things and just stuck with the ultra sound. So I would not be put in that position to second guess myself.

I cannot blame a woman who chooses to have an abortion over a one time mistake.

---I can however see myself being the one that gives the baby up for adoption or taking care of him/her. I can however be angry at the women who uses abortions as a form of birth control.
---I can point out that they may need to think their options through all the way and look at the long term effects of having the abortion.
---I can be advocate about wanting more abortion clinics to require the pts. to see someone to see if they are mentally ready for the step and the aftermeth of an abortion.

I cannot take another womans right away from her but I can educate my own family, friends, and give another line of choices.
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Birch
replied on October 12th, 2007
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Sensible and sound. Thank you for posting!
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kaiteo
replied on October 12th, 2007
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Very well written, and I can see where you're coming from. Pro-realistic is a great way to describe it.
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lonestarguy
replied on October 12th, 2007
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Bravo!
I agree with everyone. Well thought out and realistic approach to abortion. I didn't have strong feeling before although I guess I'd be pro-choice, but I think pro-realistic pretty well covers it. Thanks
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tnmommy
replied on October 12th, 2007
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thanks lol weith almost anything I can see both sides of the fences. Drives my husband crazy...
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Tylanas
replied on October 12th, 2007
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That's kind of where I am, though I'm often driven to defend abortion no matter what.

My opinions have bounced back and forth about abortion (always pro-choice, just in varying degrees) for many years, even on these forums. Your opinions are sound and fair Smile
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Gu£st
replied on October 12th, 2007
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Being pro life is about encouraging others to let the child live, ts not about condeming anyone for mistakes or making someone feel guilty about aborting a child as a result of rape. Its not about telling a woman what she should and should not do, its not about taking womens rights away, pro life is not anti choice, it is pro choice, it is making a choice for life, to see life as precious and then spreading the message that life is precious, we dont tell someone not to have an abortion, we explain that life is precious, we dont tell a woman not to have an abortion, we give them reasons not to have an abortion, we do not and could not force her arm either way, all we can do is offer our belief that a child no matter what is to be loved and cared for by someone, if not the woman then an adoptive parent(s) in effect we are reaching out to her asking her to consider what she really believes is the right thing to do, if she decides to go ahead then the pro life possition means we must be there to support a post abortive woman not in her choice but in any struggles she may have afterwards. being pro life means that all we can do is be there for both mother and child... both!
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Verizon-y
replied on October 12th, 2007
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All this time I thought pro-lifers wanted to outlaw abortion.
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Georgia59
replied on October 12th, 2007
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Don't be dissuaded Future, you're right!!
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Jincks013
replied on October 12th, 2007
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and your persuasion/disuasion comes in the form of attempting emotional blackmail; semantic manipulation and distorted truth Guest.
PL is fooling no one.
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tnmommy
replied on October 12th, 2007
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I guess you can say I am prolife but that is my choice that is what works for me so who am I to force what I think is right for others on them. I keep in mind that I am the one that has to live with myself for anything that I do but I also keep in mind in the end the one person that can judge me is God himself.
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Tylanas
replied on October 12th, 2007
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Because you don't feel you should force your ideas on others, that means you are pro-choice.

Being pro-choice does NOT mean you must approve of all abortions. It does not mean YOU would ever choose abortion for yourself! You simply respect a woman's right to make her own choice.
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Gu£st
replied on October 13th, 2007
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"emotional blackmail; semantic manipulation and distorted truth Guest.
PL is fooling no one. "

Emotional blackmail.... read the story of Jane Roe!!!

suggesting a woman kill her child when she is in such an emotional state?

Semantic manipulation and distorted truth.... "its a human being, no one is denying that but its not a person"

I am pro choice, I have chosen life, I do not believe I should force what I choose on others but I certainly believe I have the right and a duty to myself to defend what I believe, share what I believe with others and of course share my beliefs with women contemplating abortion but I respect a womans right to make her own choice.... I would never ever force a woman not to have an abortion....but I would try hard to disuade her...because I am pro life.
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Jincks013
replied on October 13th, 2007
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I've read the two stories of Jane Roe.. problem is deciding which one she was lying in....
I am pro Choice Guest; I have chosen to abort; I have chosen to gestate; I have Chosen to not have any more pregnancies.
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Gu£st
replied on October 13th, 2007
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"I am pro Choice Guest; I have chosen to abort; I have chosen to gestate; I have Chosen to not have any more pregnancies. "

and?

If you need anyone to talk to if you are having any troubles regarding your post abortion health, I am here, I dont judge you.
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Jincks013
replied on October 13th, 2007
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LMAO.. no dear..my post abortion health was actually the least complicated time I've had.. now if you wanted to talk about how birthing my youngest daughter nearly killed me we can talk.. or we can talk about how unfair it is when the heartbeat is suddenly silenced when I'm 19 weeks pregnant.. how about emotional states when my son was stillborn?
You god people amaze me.. you only care about a womans 'emotional' condition if she's aborted; you don't seem to give a damm about a woman whose had one or more late term miscarriaged when she's chosen to gestate..

I have a small shelf with several stuffed bears on it; each one represents a gestation gone wrong late in the term; late being more then half way; each wears a small cap with a pink or blue ribbon on it.. want to guess why?

When I chose to abort I didn't feel anything except relief; then was not the time; my body was still healing from a miscarriage; it was right for me. It was the single easiest pregnancy I'd ever had.
If you want to play conselor you should have been there when I agonized over wether to gestate again and risk another loss; including the high posibility of leaving my 5 year old an orphan.. you should have been there when I was told this pregnancy had little chance of completetion; you should have been there when I was terrified out of my mind trying to decide what was best; what I wanted most.

YOu should have been there for my then husband when the doctor told him they were doing all they could but I was slipping away..

don't play counselor to me..you don't have the first clue what you are talking about.
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Gu£st
replied on October 13th, 2007
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I am here for you as a friend in whatever you want to talk about
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nightangel73
replied on October 13th, 2007
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Jincks013 wrote:

You god people amaze me.. you only care about a womans 'emotional' condition if she's aborted; you don't seem to give a damm about a woman whose had one or more late term miscarriaged when she's chosen to gestate..



how do you know we don't care? Have you asked us and we have told you we don't care? If you don't tell us that you have gone this much pain and how it has affected you we can't support you because we don't know. Have you thought that we the god people go through the same pains as you. We too miscarriage, who knows how many i will have and how my pregnancies are going to be when I begin trying. So you are not alone. We hear ya with your pain Jincks.
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tnmommy
replied on October 13th, 2007
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I had 7 miscarriages before I had my daughter. I know your pain. Nothing like seeing and hearing the heartbeat and then going back and hearing nothing and not seeing your child move. I do feel your pain on that. I have also learned that I had to go through the hurt and pain to have what I do have now. When I mentioned emotional state of a woman who is thinking about an abortion I still stand by it because it is something that a woman has to live with for a lifetime. I have had a friend that had an abortion when she was younger because her and her boyfriend had broken up and she was scared and overwhelmed. Now she regreats it. She was not emotionally ready for the choice that she made.
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Jincks013
replied on October 13th, 2007
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nightangel73 wrote:
Jincks013 wrote:

You god people amaze me.. you only care about a womans 'emotional' condition if she's aborted; you don't seem to give a damm about a woman whose had one or more late term miscarriaged when she's chosen to gestate..



how do you know we don't care? Have you asked us and we have told you we don't care? If you don't tell us that you have gone this much pain and how it has affected you we can't support you because we don't know. Have you thought that we the god people go through the same pains as you. We too miscarriage, who knows how many i will have and how my pregnancies are going to be when I begin trying. So you are not alone. We hear ya with your pain Jincks.


Really? where were you then? any of you? Do you go to the hospitals and try to provide comfort to women who have lost a baby?
I see alot of you here and other abortion debate boards I post on .. but I don't see you there.
I keep a beeper handy and my cell phone in case I am needed by rape crisis to be there for a victim; for my local domestic violence program in case I am needed to rescue a victim; .. my name signs checks for a crisis nursery..
where are you then?

Where were you when the extra little buldge appeared on my pregnant belly; a tiny strong foot running down the side of my belly... then it was gone..
where were you when I had to rush my best friend to the hospital because she was white with blood loss while miscarrying her 26th week gestated fetus? I saw no single PL person there; none. I was her comfort because I was her friend and the only woman she knew who could really understand what she was enduring..

ya religiouses.. you are there at the curb to the clinic; but you aren't there at the maternity ward..
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