Do You Think I Have Schizophrenia? Posted: 10-09-07 20:53pm
Up until the age of fifteen I was a very
happy person, I enjoyed school, I was very
smart and was quite athletic. When I was
fifteen I started using drugs, dope was my
first, which I used for a while. After a
year I was smoking dope one afternoon and
I passed out and smashed my face against
the ground. It left me with two very
unsightly scars, one on my nose, red and
sunken and one above my upper lip, white
and raised. Both healed in quite a
strangely shaped way. After this incident
I was not very popular and did not get out
with as many girls as I used to. So I
started using more drugs. I became grossly
involved with class A substances such as
ecstasy, LSD, speed and cocaine. My
appearance was deterioting but I seemed
not to care much bout it. I took my
G.C.S.E’s, I did ok but not as well as
to be expected. So after two months I went
back to school to do my a-levels where I
would study chemistry, physics and
biology. Things started to change, I
became worried bout my physique so I
stopped using drugs and paid more
attention to my studies. I was so
embarrassed attending school, and I
decided to finish school after I done my
exam modules at Christmas. I was so
disappointed I had to drop out because
with my efforts I achieved an A in
chemistry and B in biology. But I could
not deal with my looks any longer. I
dropped out and started to spend more time
in the house but would still go out the
odd time, and on these nights out I would
take drugs. After a couple of months I
stopped and decided to stay in the house
all the time. One thing that was wrong
with my face apart from the scars was it
was very white, and with having black hair
it looked strange. One associate even
called me a panda. So I shaved my head, it
did not look good so I started wearing a
hat. My right hand also became perched on
my nose to cover the scars. This went on
for a few months until my family became
very worried. A child psychologist was
called in, he was not very nice, and I was
under the bed covers just woken up where
he tried to rip them off me. So then a
doctor and nurse came to see me and very
quickly they told me I had to take these
tablets. I was not told what for but was
informed things would get better if I took
them. So I agreed, I started taking
risperdal oral, for quite a long time with
absolutely no improvement. In fact things
became worse due to the side effects which
I was told nothing about when I started
them. The doctor then put me on a second
antipsychotic called olanzopine, which I
knew nothing about, or what it was for.
This did not work so I was put on a third
antipsychotic which I cannot remember the
name of. During this third antipsychotic I
was in my bedroom on eBay when two police
officers and my doctor entered my room and
the doctor said, “Aidan, you have to
come with us, you re going into
hospital”. Now I don’t know what a
speeding bullet penetrating the heart
feels like but those words shot through my
body like nothing I could ever imagine”.
I was handcuffed like a criminal and
handled in a very unsanitary manner, I was
gripped tightly by the arm and dragged
down the stairs and threw into the back of
a van, not an ambulance, I’m nearly sure
it was a police car. I remained handcuffed
inside the van and until I entered the
hospital. I was taken to the psychiatric
unit where I was shown to my room, quite
bleak, a bed with a wafer thin mattress, a
wardrobe, a sink and mirror. And this is
why we pay taxes every year we are the
suckers. Our taxes are lining the pockets
of doctor’s pockets instead of lining
the fabrics of personal and emotional well
being of hospitalized patients. Supposedly
paying doctors more money increase the
chances of helping patients recover. So in
my first night in hospital I was very
scared, no one came to talk to me except
for a nurse who said I have to take some
tablets to help me sleep. I refused and
she said if I don’t they would have to
use extreme measures to give me the
tablets. So I unwillingly agreed to. I
took them and they pretty much knocked me
out. I woke the next morning and could not
believe where I was. I was given my
antipsychotic medication, and was heavily
guarded by a hospital worker, not a nurse,
just a worker. I was not allowed out for
fresh air so it was 24-hour lock down. I
entered hospital a five-a-day smoker and
during my stay I was smoking 40-60 a day.
There wasn’t much to do apart from
smoking, and plying pool on a very shabby
pool table, and a ps2, which I was not
allowed to use at the start of my stay. I
escaped from hospital to buy drugs, I done
this twice but only got drugs the first
time. I vowed not to escape again but they
still suspected that I had friends
delivering drugs to the ward. This was
untrue. They even accused me of taking
some sort of sleeping tablet, which they
said was found in my urine. This was
ludicrous, I don’t even like sleeping
tablets and would never take them for
recreational use. They apologised after
due to a mistake having been made. I was
very hurt because of this accusation but
was determined not to let it get me down.
I must say the nurses were not very
efficient, I seen several cries for help
from patients but these were just ignored.
When I approached the faculty lounge to
get my pool cue I could her them all
having a good time. Their whole day was
just one huge break. Who could enjoy
themselves like that in a place full of
misery and depression?
I had now been on three different
antipsychotic with no improvement after
over 2 years. So the doctor told me I was
going to take clozapine. All I was told it
was very effective and expensive. I was
never told about side effects or what the
medication was for. I remained on this
medication until I was thrown out of
hospital. Apparently I was supposed to be
getting drugs delivered and was giving
them out to patients. Now I must emphasize
this, I would never give drugs to the
people I met in hospital, they were very
unstable and giving them drugs I feel
would be very stupid. So one morning
while I was sleeping two nurses came into
my room, ordered me up and told me my room
had to be searched. They rummaged through
my drawers and my bed and all my clothes
in the wardrobe. They found nothing. They
seemed displeased not to have succeeded so
I was took into a room and told to take
off my shoes and socks, then my jumper,
then t-shirt. I did not feel comfortable
as I had lost allot of weight. Then I was
told to take my trousers off, I would not
do that so they called the police in and I
was fully searched just like a criminal.
Nothing was found and I really felt hurt
emotionally. Every patient who I was
friendly with inside the ward had urine
tests to check for drugs. Nothing was
detected. I seen the doctor and she told
me I had to leave. I was told it would be
a positive step if I went back on the
first antipsychotic that being risperdal
but you can call me paranoid but I think
they changed me back typically because it
was more convenient. You see with me being
out of hospital I could not take clozapine
due to that it could only be administered
inside hospital.
I was out of hospital and I had made no
improvement in my 9-month spell. My hat
remained on and my hand was still perched
over the scars. The only improvement I can
say is that I put on lot of weight during
my sty. You see I never ate hospital food
and they would not bring it to my room so
my dad, when he called to see me in the
evening took me to McDonalds every night
for 9 months, and sometimes through the
day. This was my diet for 9 months.
So I was out of hospital and for a few
weeks I acted very much the same as
before. But then I started searching the
Internet to help my physique. I bough
weight gain, skin camouflage for my scars,
detoxify kits, skin creams, vitamins,
nicotine patches, silicone gel patches for
scars and acne cream.
I used these products on a daily basis and
I was pleased with the results I was
seeing. A support worker then called to
see me and I started seeing him every
Tuesday. I was still quite embarrassed to
be seen in public but I said I would go to
McDonalds to the drive through. I was
happy as I would gain more weight. Then we
started going to the cinema, this didn’t
bother me, as it was dark. So we did this
for a while, I was still taking the
products I bought and this was helping my
appearance. But then I went to the pub for
a drink with a mate and bumped into
somebody I went to school with. He said I
had changed allot from school, he never
said anything else but that was enough to
hurt my feelings. I was determined not to
let this get me down, and agreed with my
support worker to attend an occupational
therapy group. We participated in many
activities like ten-pin bowling, walks,
golf, shopping and the cinema.
I have to say that this support I received
helped me so much, I wish I had never
agreed to take this pointless medication,
it never did any favours for my
appearance. The therapy didn’t either
but it helped me come to terms with what I
looked like. The woman who ran the group
called to see me and I was in bed so had
no hat on. She pointed out that this was
the first time she seen me without my hat
on. So when she left I thought it wasn’t
that bad so decided to go and get my
haircut. This helped lot, my hat was off
and because of the scar cream my hand was
away from my nose.
So I was on medication from the age of
seventeen to twenty. I m still twenty and
have finally told my family and nurse that
I was paranoid bout my appearance, my
nurse listened and agreed from looking at
pictures when I was 16 that I had changed
but he still felt I was ill mentally. My
mum just kept saying there’s nothing
wrong with me.
I came off rispiridone consta 4 months ago
and feel much better but my bones re still
painful and weak. I don’t see why an
antipsychotic medication would help my
appearance or make me feel different about
it so it seems pointless to me.
I’ve never heard weird voices, I’ve
never hallucinated, and I’ve never been
paranoid about something that wasn’t
happening. It was only my appearance that
was a cause for concern.
Could have made the story lot longer but
don’t want to bore you. Do you think
having a bad complexion constitutes a
mental illness, particularly
schizophrenia?
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Philo
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Posted: 10-10-07 10:47am
I'm sorry you had such a horrible time.
You talk a lot about what happened but not
a lot about your symptoms, just the fact
that you had your hand on the scar and
that you were tied to your hat. Is that
all? It certainly doesn't sound like
schizophrenia. Could you not take your
hand away from your scar? It was there
involuntarily? It doesn't sound like
anything an antipsychotic could fix, but
perhaps talking to a child psychologist
couldn've been good instead.
i had some symptons related to
schizophrenia, i stayed in bed all day,
stopped socialising, i stayed in my
bedroom and relied on my family to go to
the shops, etc. i would only take my hat
off or take my hand down if no one was
present. i never showered regulary.
this was different when i was happy with
my appearance, i would always wash, was
very social,`and very busy.
my mum wont admit my appearance has
changed, she says im having bodily
delusions. but my nurse has said i have
changed but he puts it down to the weight
i have lost. i used to be 182 lbs, now in
136 lbs.
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Philo
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Posted: 10-10-07 17:39pm
mrniceguy1987
wrote:
stayed in bed all day,
stopped socialising, i stayed in my
bedroom and relied on my family to go to
the shops,
etc.
Most of these symptoms still might have to
do with social phobia related to the
scarring, not necessarily schizophrenia.
The lack of showering is troublesome,
because it doesn't fit into phobia alone;
maybe there were schizophrenic elements
after all. Did you feel depressed at this
time? Depression might cause not
showering.
yes i was very depressed. i would only
shower maybe 2-3 times a week or take a
bath. i felt there was no point as i did
not go out.
lets say i do have schizophrenia, ive been
off my med for 4 months now. the doctor
said i will relapse within 6 months, is
this true. and if i dont start worrying in
that time then does that mean i was
misdiagnosed.
i always felt this was the case, the
doctor who diagnosed me was a stranger and
did not know me.
you see from what ive read i though you
had to hear voices or hallucinate to have
sz
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gangta
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Posted: 10-10-07 21:32pm
im no doctor but i personally doubt you
are schizophrenic. the condition deals
with halucinations and paranoia and
hearing your story i dont see you having
either
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Birch
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Posted: 10-10-07 21:50pm
Hey Aiden,
I'm sorry you have gone through all that.
It must have quite an impact on you.
Cutting to the chase, I think you are
leaving out some information, probably
unintentionally. I think you are heavily
minimalizing your substance abuse issues.
I also highly doubt you have schizophrenia
just from the information you've stated
here. Two main components of
schizophrenia are hallucinations and
bizarre delusions. If you've had these,
it's hard to say whether they are from a
mental disorder or from substance abuse.
How did you lose all this weight?
Anti-psychotics tend to have the opposite
effect.
Anyways, to answer your question, I don't
think you're schizophrenic. I do hope
that you start seeing a therapist on a
regular basis to address your substance
abuse and self esteem issues. Best of
luck to you!
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Philo
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Posted: 10-11-07 10:19am
mrniceguy1987
wrote:
the doctor said i will
relapse within 6 months, is this true.
Lol, he's either stupid or playing games
with you. No one can predict if and when
you will relapse. Although, maybe he just
meant that many people do relapse in the
first 6 months. I don't know.
As to hallucinations and delusions, I am
reminded of one answer to a doctor
question on this forum: http://ehealthfor
um.com/health/topic95667.html
Among other things it says:
"Hallucinations are not the main symptoms
of schizophrenia. Rather, hallucinations
are accessory symptoms present in some
forms of schizophrenia." So let's not base
ourselves totally on this criterion. I
suggest you read an official description
of the different schizophrenic disorders:
http://www.mentalh
ealth.com/icd/p22-ps01.html
i lost all the weight due the drugs. i
used allot of drugs on a regular basis. i
would take around 15 e tabs with speed and
lsd in one session.
i can remember my last night out taking
drugs. we were in my friends house taking
ecstasy. i took about 5 tabs. there was a
girl there who obviously didnt recognize
me, i went to school with her and she used
to fancy me. but when one of my friends
said something to me, she was like, thats
never john smith(not my real name but you
get me). she said ive changed allot. i was
so embarrassed, i just said, its just
these pills.
what can i do to prove i dont have sz, if
i wait till im off the meds a year will
that prove it.
doctors opinions are valued so much, my
mum just takes their word for it.
my nurse wouldnt lie to me, hes very nice.
he said i wont relapse until 3-6 months
off the medication. is he lying
my dad, i can see it in his eyes, believes
me but just does what my mum says.
it would be hard to tell your son, or
anyone for that matter their looks are a
cause for concern. i know i would never
make a statement in that way.
some people are not attractive and maybe
just dont have the potential to be, but i
used to be, is there anyway i can get back
to what i was. wont mention the scars, the
cream has helped.
my face has became very long, used to be
round, is this due to weight loss, or
wearing a hat for so long, it was very
tightly ajusted.
very pale face
dark circles under eyes
very strange acne on back. i told my gp,
not the doctor who diagnosed me, she said
they looked like straids, not sure if
thats spelt right, anyone heard of them.
my gp said they could be due to the med.
its like red and raised scars, lots of
them just around the middle of my back.
what can be done especially for the long
face.
i am so mad with my doctor, could i not
sue her for this misdiagnosis. although
probably wouldnt as i would have to tell
people about my phobia. but if my looks
improved i would go through with it if
possible.
also when i was told i was hearing voices,
i said i only hear my own voice inside my
head telling me normal things, like ive
forgotton something, or just when im
thinking. i was told this was not normal
and we shouldnt hear things like that.
is this not normal, are we not supposed to
hear our own thoughts. this seems a very
silly question in my opinion but have to
know.
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Philo
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Posted: 10-12-07 10:47am
You should start eating to improve your
looks. As to the voices, there must be a
misunderstanding. What you're "hearing" is
not a sound speaking to you, but a
thought, right? Thoughts have no sound to
them, although one still talks about them
as if they were being "heard". That's
normal.
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PsychNurse007
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Posted: 10-15-07 00:52am
It doesn't sound to me like you have
symptoms of schizophrenia. Hearing
"internal thoughts" is fine and everyone
has internal thoughts, it is when the
thoughts become harmful (telling you to
hurt yourself, telling you people are
after you, etc.), or overwhelming and
uncontrollable that it becomes a problem.
It sounds to me like you were going
through some sort of body image issues,
along with substance abuse, which of
course will not improve the situation.
Many of the substances you were using
(Ectasy, LSD, cocaine, etc.) can make you
appear to have symptoms of schizophrenia
while intoxicated, or while detoxing from
these substance. Symptoms like
hallucinations, delusions, paranoia. If
your doctors saw you while you were
intoxicated or detoxing from these drugs
they may have misdiagnosed you.
I have been off the medication now for 6
months. Everything is fine but some side
effects still seem present.
Have some muscle pains and spasms, kinda
jerking. Grinding my teeth. Still very
tired. Sexual function still isnt great
and Ive got a girlfriend now which is
hard. Ive tried viagra and cilias and its
not working.
My back, just at the back of my neck is
quite arched, never used to be.
Concentration is bad, not extreme but.
The three worst I need your help with
are,
Decreased sexual desire, what can i do
Tiredness, what can i do
And numero uno, I can bearly speak, got a
really sore throat, and very low toned
voice, it was never deep, like really
deep.